Warlock

[mathzinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXd95Y1ZLE

[_Kharbon_]

Hmm.. thread in wrong sub-forum.

Basically the whole video is composed of two parts - ganking half dead grinders, or zerging a half dead enemies. Little strafing skill displayed, quite bit of back-pedalling, which shows you still have much to learn.
The worst part is dancing on your enemies dead corpses. That's just lame. The guys had no chance to fight you, since they were on grind setup, had (mostly) less than half hp, aggroed mob on them and probably half of their spells on cd. Some were a bit higher level than you, some were even lower. Why dance on them? I just don't understand that.
I appreciate, you are probably a new player, since your lock is around lvl 45. You grasped the basic warlock skills, but in the same time you show weaknesses in some areas (back-pedalling, allowing warriors to get close to you, or not being aware of your surroundings). You still have much to learn. Try making some video footage during fort wars, they usually come out well.
And please, please, respect your enemies (abit :P).

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Not a very good video, a bit of skill to no skill at all. Stick to your knight mate.

[l33t_supa_h4x90r]

Mostly consisted of ganking helpless enemies, skillessly spamming everything with no concern as to what was going on (casted lightning with precise block animation showing? really?), running away during cooldowns, rinse-and-repeat.

You have a long way to go as a warlock.

[GALO ÉPICO]

Hmm.. thread in wrong sub-forum.

Basically the whole video is composed of two parts - ganking half dead grinders, or zerging a half dead enemies. Little strafing skill displayed, quite bit of back-pedalling, which shows you still have much to learn.
The worst part is dancing on your enemies dead corpses. That's just lame. The guys had no chance to fight you, since they were on grind setup, had (mostly) less than half hp, aggroed mob on them and probably half of their spells on cd. Some were a bit higher level than you, some were even lower. Why dance on them? I just don't understand that.
I appreciate, you are probably a new player, since your lock is around lvl 45. You grasped the basic warlock skills, but in the same time you show weaknesses in some areas (back-pedalling, allowing warriors to get close to you, or not being aware of your surroundings). You still have much to learn. Try making some video footage during fort wars, they usually come out well.
And please, please, respect your enemies (abit :P).Dançar em cima dos inimigos é para acirrar os animos,pois o nome já diz inimigos,então basicamente não precisa respeita-los,mate os dance em cima e os faça de gato e sapato :punk: basicamente é isso,e a respeito das magias ele esta em fase de aprendizado pois me diga alguém que saiba tudo?é isso ai a vida é uma escola vivendo e aprendendo.

[Enitharmon]

cmon, it was a fun video! And I think when you're lvl42-45 ganking high level's, you're fully allowed to dance on their corpses. :thumb:
Besides he shows not only killing but also failing, aggroing purple mobs all the time, and when the knight he killed before dances on his corpse was an epic moment!

Imvho this video was alot more entertaining than your run-of-the-mill warlock's perfectly timed CC chains, or boss-powered-archers pwning-skillz video.

I think it would be better without constant 2x speed though.

[cokyy]

Narutooo





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[71175]

Have watched the vid now, oh right, that still sucks.
1: BORING DOT SPAM, bro seriously, that is boring.
2: Knights not using def stance, barbs that do not treehug... I WANNA LIVE IN SUCH A WORLD TOO.
3: I have a feeling that it was on Pirahna, then... u no allowed to show such vids while playning too higher than 21 :D.
4: Nuff said.
EDIT: just noticed that this vid sucks thrice cause it is from may :D

[VeterKh]

@Master ^))

from this video, I realized one thing: players from RA defecate on you, and you decide that we are (players from Haven) can defecate on you too?

[71175]

@Master ^))

from this video, I realized one thing: players from RA defecate on you, and you decide that we are (players from Haven) can defecate on you too?

Seriously man, that error made my day :D

[Regnum vicia]

Masternux also known as Masterflood, Masterspam, etc.
Always creating threads in the wrong places only for the purpose of flood.

Sorry my english.

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[Slartibartfast]

Have watched the vid now, oh right, that still sucks.
1: BORING DOT SPAM, bro seriously, that is boring.


Boring DOTs? What should lock cast? Normals? Spam fireballs with 15s cd?

[Hollow-Ichigo]

What should lock cast? Normals?

There is a whole tree for normals, staff mastery.

[Shwish]

I don't think the video was that bad. Obviously his gameplay isn't perfect. As mentioned lots of back-pedalling and inability to use the camera to its full advantage. Also overlapping CC's like crazy. He made a barb run away from him while he was in melee range???? Give him a little credit.

[Slartibartfast]

There is a whole tree for normals, staff mastery.

I wonder why there is no lock using staff mastery in fights. Maybe you should try to guess.

Let me help you with few hints:

R30/medium staves with non-funny damage and useful attributes are very hard to find. All below r30 and slow staves are unusable for staff mastery.
Intelligence attribute is unusable for mages, as it's not used to scale the staff damage (or any other damage).
To give some damage, mage needs to be buffed all the time with: Fire magnification, Ice magnification, Lightning magnification and Arcane acceleration.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

I wonder why there is no lock using staff mastery in fights. Maybe you should try to guess.

Let me help you with few hints:

R30/medium staves with non-funny damage and useful attributes are very hard to find. All below r30 and slow staves are unusable for staff mastery.
Intelligence attribute is unusable for mages, as it's not used to scale the staff damage (or any other damage).
To give some damage, mage needs to be buffed all the time with: Fire magnification, Ice magnification, Lightning magnification and Arcane acceleration.


Ive got a warlock and i know that they can hit at least 200 on marks and even hunters. Maybe reach 300 on mages.
We already know knights wont get hit more than 100.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

And we all know that warlocks were not made for SM but to use CC spells and DoT's. At least that's what their implementation tells us :).

SM is there only for grind, don't think any warlock would use it at a fort war cause it needs a lot of points and you can't get other "must-be" spells that a warlock would need, to be effective you need all magnifications + arcane acceleration + combat magic on lvl5 and lvl1 arcane projection comes in handy as well.... A lot of points :P

OT:Sorry but I didn't have the time yet to watch your video but gonna give it a shot once I have more time :).

[71175]

Boring DOTs? What should lock cast? Normals? Spam fireballs with 15s cd?

In his case and enemies he did not need even half of those typical lock dots :D. And yes, what i have seen were absolutely typical lock spells, nothing interesting, really. Heck, i would give that vid a like if only dmging spell he would use was mana burn. (ofc with drains and CCs) but not lighting/ice blast/so on. Yes, he would die alot cause it takes more running and time to fight in that case :D

[Tamui]

I wonder why there is no lock using staff mastery in fights. Maybe you should try to guess.

Let me help you with few hints:

R30/medium staves with non-funny damage and useful attributes are very hard to find. All below r30 and slow staves are unusable for staff mastery.
Intelligence attribute is unusable for mages, as it's not used to scale the staff damage (or any other damage).
To give some damage, mage needs to be buffed all the time with: Fire magnification, Ice magnification, Lightning magnification and Arcane acceleration.


My Conju is on SM. She got a 25r Medium and I'm fine with that. Because of my squishy setup, + not using SM maxed, I hit average range around 170-210. Sometimes 300s crits.
For your second statement. True
For your third statement. True and I don't find a problem with that.
I'm speaking as a Conjurer, but I want to point out SM isn't thaaaaat useless.

[71175]

By the way, int is really useful with SM, saying it as lock that used to have 130+ Int all the time. Look
130 Int = 130*1,75 ~ 228 damage. Say me you get more damage off weapon :D

[Slartibartfast]

My Conju is on SM. She got a 25r Medium and I'm fine with that. Because of my squishy setup, + not using SM maxed, I hit average range around 170-210. Sometimes 300s crits.
For your second statement. True
For your third statement. True and I don't find a problem with that.
I'm speaking as a Conjurer, but I want to point out SM isn't thaaaaat useless.

You're right, it isn't so useless - for conju as warju. You can have mind blank, steel skin, force armor and other conju fancy protection spells, as well as sanct when the shit hits the fan.

With warju you can stay at one position for some time to do normals, and usually you can do it with all that protection on yourself.

With lock you need to be mobile all the time, using surroundings for your protection. Mobility and staff normals are not something what can be achieved at the same time.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

lf.

With lock you need to be mobile all the time, using surroundings for your protection. Mobility and staff normals are not something what can be achieved at the same time.

This is where skill comes in, if you can balance movement and normal attacks you will be a killing machine.

[Tamui]

You're right, it isn't so useless - for conju as warju. You can have mind blank, steel skin, force armor and other conju fancy protection spells, as well as sanct when the shit hits the fan.

With warju you can stay at one position for some time to do normals, and usually you can do it with all that protection on yourself.

With lock you need to be mobile all the time, using surroundings for your protection. Mobility and staff normals are not something what can be achieved at the same time.

You speak as if Warlocks are powerless. Why and how can a Warju stay at one point only? Conjurer may high defense, but he isn't invincible. Steel Skin only works against physical damage, Force Armour is crap, Karma Mirror is nice, Energy Barrier, decent, Mind Blank, depends on your luck.
Not to mention Conjurer cannot debuff a target's defense.
I'd kill to have Elemental Exposure and Infuriate for my conju. You have freeze at low level of the Elemental tree, after it, an area freeze which can freeze DIed persons. A warlock have the potential to be a killing machine just as a Conjurer. No one tries of course, everyone will shrug and walk away.

[Shwish]

You're right, it isn't so useless - for conju as warju. You can have mind blank, steel skin, force armor and other conju fancy protection spells, as well as sanct when the shit hits the fan.

With warju you can stay at one position for some time to do normals, and usually you can do it with all that protection on yourself.


You're forgetting the most important factor of all. A warjurer has a summon doing more or less the same damage as he does. SM is only there for grinding, warjurers and warlocks with boss jewellery. That's the sad truth. Unless we get proper scaling on our spells some time in the future that gets affected by SM buffs (which I highly doubt it will), that tree needs to be removed.

By the way, I found Staff Mastery to be terrible for grinding too.

[71175]

You're forgetting the most important factor of all. A warjurer has a summon doing more or less the same damage as he does. SM is only there for grinding, warjurers and warlocks with boss jewellery. That's the sad truth. Unless we get proper scaling on our spells some time in the future that gets affected by SM buffs (which I highly doubt it will), that tree needs to be removed.

By the way, I found Staff Mastery to be terrible for grinding too.

Well, tastes are different for all, but yes, i would be raging as hard as Spyda if i would lose ability to use normals :D