For those of you without lag...

[magnet]

What do you call "lag"?
It has been explained a countless number of times. There are three different phenomenons that are accounted as lag: bad client performance (aka "fps lag"), bad server performance (aka "server lag"), and bad connection latency (ie, lag). The latter only makes a difference regarding gameplay when there are very few users on the server (because of the bad server code/protocol). Ask Znurre who lags as much as anyone with a ping of 30-40ms. I myself play with less than 100ms. The two formers, client & server lag, are experienced by *EVERY* player, it's not a matter of OS/configuration or location.

Now there might be a difference between different platform users (Windows or Linux) or driver/videocard users, but by any means it should not be called lag.

[Blaine]

My room mate plays on PC with Ubuntu 8.04, some newer NVidia graphics (256MB) and has all effects, including ex-dangerous antialiasing, maxed - his game runs really smoothly

[magnet]

Originally Posted by Blaine

My room mate plays on PC with Ubuntu 8.04, some newer NVidia graphics (256MB) and has all effects, including ex-dangerous antialiasing, maxed - his game runs really smoothly

For how long does the game run smoothly? At what resolution?
I play 1680x1050 and the client runs smoothly too "for some time".

And it doesn't matter in the end with the server misplacement of players and casting delay.

[_dracus_]

I voted because I only got huge lag from time to time in huge fort wars with 50+ ignis.

My config is a Debian Linux (Lenny) with Geforce 8500 GT, I therefore voted European/Other Linux/Gefore 6xxx or faster.

And I have to add that During the last month I add to downgrade the window resolution for playing regnum from 1440x900 to 1280x960 to keep good fps.

[tak]

Hi,
although i do have lag i'll post here just so the devs can get an overview of where and on which systems it occurs.

Two machines, both have lag.

First Machine:
AMD 6000+ Dualcore, 8GB RAM, Nvidia 8800GT, Game running off SCSI 320 disks on an ICP Vortex Raid 1
I get FPS lag in fortwars after a few waves of enemies, it goes down to 10-20 FPS after a while, no fps lag the rest of the game. Network lag occurs depending on server load.

Second Machine:
Intel Pentium 4 2800, 2GB RAM, Nvidia 6600GT, Game running off a Western Digital Raptor 36GB disk.
I get FPS lag in fortwars and FPS lag when people approach, both enemies and friendlies. In fortwars it goes down to under 10 FPS. Network lag occurs depending on server load.

Just to clarify, FPS lag for me means FPS going down (to unplayable levels), network lag means spell cast lag, jumping back when running, warping players etc.

Both machines on a cable line 16mbit/1mbit.
OS on both Debian/testing.

[Blaine]

Originally Posted by magnet

For how long does the game run smoothly? At what resolution?
I play 1680x1050 and the client runs smoothly too "for some time".

And it doesn't matter in the end with the server misplacement of players and casting delay.

I don't know how long exactly, it could be a month or two? before that, antialiasing (and maybe something else too) was often causing crashes...so he used to play with min detail
now I can see no flaws on his () 1680x1050 display during playing regnum - but surely I can't see everything

[magnet]

Originally Posted by Blaine

I don't know how long exactly, it could be a month or two? before that, antialiasing (and maybe something else too) was often causing crashes...so he used to play with min detail
now I can see no flaws on his () 1680x1050 display during playing regnum - but surely I can't see everything

I'm saying "how long" regarding the playing sessions. Does he play at fort wars for 2 hours without the FPS value going down to a point where it's unplayable?
For the record I'm also playing Regnum under Ubuntu with a monster PC.

[trash]

I'm constantly amazed by how the forum, and more specifically complaining, seems a bigger part of the Regnum experience than the game for some people. So many users reaching their monthly climax of disgust at what a terrible, terrible game Regnum is, and how they are never coming back, but can still be found posting a week later, still complaining. Regularly gathering together for the grand exit, the regular occurrence of the devs making some *inexcusable* action that *will* cause *all* to leave the game, following those who fight for the rights of the users against the evil developers, except that grand excursion never happens does it. Nope people are still on playing, as ever. Some of us actually enjoy playing the game, hard to believe, but it's true. Some of us, really *don't* have performance issues.

So, one thread, one thread, clearly stated, comment and post if you *don't* have a performance issues with Regnum...


My best to you gamemod, I really don't envy your job. And as ever my best to the devs, constantly having to suffer an avalache of abuse and criticism, marked occasionaly with a satisfied grunt when the ranks of oh so distinguished long timer players deem you've done something satisfactory in their eyes.

Yah, and I know I keep saying I'm gonna quit these forums, then I come back, it's because one of these days I hope the bunch of you that keep quitting actually do quit, and this forum gets the chance to grow and blossom a little. I get the feeling you just enjoying complaining. As it stands at the minute nobody can say anything positive or constructive on these forums without it getting beaten down, every thread however specifically and politely titled is turned into another moan thread, and is pulled off topic to match the rest.

Well see you in a month or so I guess...

Out.

[magnet]

Originally Posted by trash

Some of us, really *don't* have performance issues.

I'm sorry Trix but I simply don't believe you. Maybe you just don't have the same standards. When we're talking about "lag", people are either referring to server side lag *that's happening for ALL AND EVERY PLAYER* regardless of your computer and location! So even being the NGD apologist you are (personally I don't think it does any good to the game) you just can't ignore this. Try playing Warlock if you want to notice server lag -- when you cast a 3s spell with devotion and it takes 5s it has nothing to do with your client.

As for CLIENT PERFORMANCE issues, they depend on two things: (1) your computer and its setup (you can do something about that) (2) the game code (you can't do anything about that). Once again, the code is the same for every player out there (whether you run the Linux or Windows version, the differences are only platform specific) so the memory leaks and bad memory management are there for everyone as well, they have been acknowledged by NGD, what's more to add?

I understand you may like to dismiss that with the back of your hand but imho your poll doesn't make sense. It should be "With which setup do you play Regnum with high framerate?" and it has nothing to do with where do you play. I don't want to put you down at all, it's just not scientifically sound, and this is my job after all so I can't remain silent .

[trash]

Originally Posted by magnet

I'm sorry Trix but I simply don't believe you. Maybe you just don't have the same standards. When we're talking about "lag", people are either referring to server side lag *that's happening for ALL AND EVERY PLAYER* regardless of your computer and location! So even being the NGD apologist you are (personally I don't think it does any good to the game) you just can't ignore this. Try playing Warlock if you want to notice server lag -- when you cast a 3s spell with devotion and it takes 5s it has nothing to do with your client.

As for CLIENT PERFORMANCE issues, they depend on two things: (1) your computer and its setup (you can do something about that) (2) the game code (you can't do anything about that). Once again, the code is the same for every player out there (whether you run the Linux or Windows version, the differences are only platform specific) so the memory leaks and bad memory management are there for everyone as well, they have been acknowledged by NGD, what's more to add?

I understand you may like to dismiss that with the back of your hand but imho your poll doesn't make sense. It should be "With which setup do you play Regnum with high framerate?" and it has nothing to do with where do you play. I don't want to put you down at all, it's just not scientifically sound, and this is my job after all so I can't remain silent .

Righteousness to a whole new level. I actually liked you when we first met.

Astounding.

You're right, I'm wrong, Regnum's unplayable, we're all gonna quit tomorrow etc. Feel better?

Apologist? You really can't believe that I don't have a problem, I have to simply be being sympathetic. I pity you. Don't want to put me down, but what else would you do with your day if it wasn't to criticise everyones opinions pray tell?

I'll go and sign in anyway, maybe if I kick the f**k out of my case it'll crash and go slower to satisfactorily meet your infalible view on things. It's incredibly rude of me and the other people who have voted not to have a problem I know.

Well, really, out. I thought that someone might have said something supportive, intelligent or interesting, then I saw your user name, but foolishly I read your comment anyway...


This is historically now the game I've loved playing the most in my life, best time I've had since Laser Squad on the C64. I just wish the vast proportion of the players who frequent this forum with their negative presence stopped existing, like a nasty stain on an otherwise polished surface. Then it really would be perfect.