Knight's non-spring life

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Zas_

As a hunter, i can tell some knights do fairly well versus us, just run behind a rock or a tree and wait.

The main issue, imho, is Confuse(3-5), because a suprised knight will not be able to buff, and may die before confuse expires if no tree/rock/fort is around.

But what reason does a knight have to be unbuffed? If you just run around with defensive stance on, and only turn it off when you need to, then a single hunter coming out of camo won't be able to confuse and kill you quickly.

[Geev]

Originally Posted by VandaMan

But what reason does a knight have to be unbuffed?

Horse. (adding extra words to make the post longer so it gets accepted...)

[MalaTempora]

Originally Posted by VandaMan

But what reason does a knight have to be unbuffed? If you just run around with defensive stance on, and only turn it off when you need to, then a single hunter coming out of camo won't be able to confuse and kill you quickly.

+1 to this.. i ALWAYs run around with def stance(5) on me.. most of the time i can run to safe place if a lonely hunter appear..
sometime i try to catch him and then.. sometime i die (often) rare time he die
(lol)

but running around unbuffed is like painting himself with colored circled target..

[Nekoko]

1 on 1:

Knight/Archer: Stale mate or a loss, battle is in the Archers favour.
Knight/Mage: Warlock has the advantage, Warjuer might win.
Knight/Barb: Barb has the advantage.

Sure a lot of people will argue otherwise with me but this has been my experience fighting knights and being one. Lack of speed on a knight is the most frustrating thing and it's always amusing to have mages get away in open field battles.

[tikinho]

Knight is totally fine as it is.

[DemonMonger]

Just allow knights to summon basic mount that gives + 10% mobility as a skill
Also allow knights to attack from this summon wth skills.
Also allow knights to stay on this summon until they reach 50% hp

problem solved

Knights have always been able to attack from mounts right?

[bois]

I too agree that Knight is probably seeing its best days ever.

I think how you fare in 1 v 1 depends a lot on your build, gear and experience. I would say that a knight has very good chances against any other class once it is purpose built. A lot of us tend to run around with the jack-of-all-trades build that may or may not be advantageous.

Like I said before, I miss spring but really my tool box of skills are the best they have ever been. I am comfortable trading it and a few other spells to have the ones I have now. It is the most flexible class in the game at the moment. I would go so far to say that it is also the most balanced class in the game now.

[Geev]

Originally Posted by Stooge1

Knight is totally fine as it is.

Yeah, I'm very happy with knight. I would make Intimidate a decent spell, however. Right now it is crap. A -25% speed penalty at level 5 would be fine. It would make it much more interesting for those kite-crazy speed-passive hunters you have no hope of catching.

[Signatus]

Originally Posted by Nekoko

1 on 1:

Knight/Archer: Stale mate or a loss, battle is in the Archers favour.
Knight/Mage: Warlock has the advantage, Warjuer might win.
Knight/Barb: Barb has the advantage.

Sure a lot of people will argue otherwise with me but this has been my experience fighting knights and being one. Lack of speed on a knight is the most frustrating thing and it's always amusing to have mages get away in open field battles.

You are right.

Originally Posted by Stooge1

Knight is totally fine as it is.

You are wrong.

Originally Posted by bois

I too agree that Knight is probably seeing its best days ever.

I think how you fare in 1 v 1 depends a lot on your build, gear and experience. I would say that a knight has very good chances against any other class once it is purpose built. A lot of us tend to run around with the jack-of-all-trades build that may or may not be advantageous.

Like I said before, I miss spring but really my tool box of skills are the best they have ever been. I am comfortable trading it and a few other spells to have the ones I have now. It is the most flexible class in the game at the moment. I would go so far to say that it is also the most balanced class in the game now.

You are wrong in your analysis, 1 Vs 1 knigts are screwed unless they hit lady luck, or the opponent doesn't know what he's doing. Against ranged we lack the speed and the CC immunity to reach them, against barbs it's luck based, MS or knocks over the protections, still they have the upper hand, barbs have more HP given their dmg then we do.

We are not even close to our prime. And probably we'll never be again. Our prime was when we would block 7/10. If you think that's OP (and it was) you must realize barbs only needed a hit to kill a knight (4.5k SC if I can recall on a lvl 50 knight is documented somewhere on this forum).

A knight speed in war is, realistically, -25%. Otherwise we spend our time knocked, ivyed and stunned. Even then we always eat a lightning arrow, slow, twister, ensnaring or, god forbids, caltrops. Point is, if we don't activate the CC resistances we are screwed, if we do, we are screwed.

We are indeed good at dying last and dropping auras. Well, it's better then it was before the knight overhaul, back then we were a 0 (though I would never admit it at the time!).

We don't need spring back, just ons affecting caster and on Vanguard, def support with the stance system and on Vanguard, kick on Vanguard (you can remove intimidate, rigorous and arcane const)... or any other efficient tools that allow us to lead rushes.

I was shocked on the other day when a guy said "Knights, heal!", that cannot be the destiny of my class.

Nevertheless: "Knights are the sexiest class in RO"!

[DkySven]

Signatus pretty much expresses what I think about knights, +1!