AMUN - Version 1.12.3

[MDpro]

After reading the changes made to jewels in the first post (Good to see attack range removed )... I think the only real imbalance lies within those +40 elemental amulets. I'd say release all of the other jewels, but hold off on those elemental WM amulets for a little while. Even without those +40 amulets, the other jewels are good for different subclasses, and they allow each player to customize their stats without being too OP.

EDIT- Maybe the cast speed and mana could be slightly lower on the rings too.

[_Kharbon_]

Originally Posted by Adrian

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This will certainly be a important change in the mechanics. Camping empty forts will have no meaning, that's a great change.
The only issue I see is, that if enemy outnumbers me at a fort, instead of trying to recap the fort (and give them "free" wmc), I will rather cap their fort, and wait for them there. When this happens, the enemy is likely to cap my other fort, to force me to defend (initiates an invasion). This scenario results in a likely invasion, which gives high amounts of wmc anyway. I would therefore suggest to include some changes of wall rewards.

Also, I would like to point out, that on Haven there's a certain "issue" with over/under -population of different realms. Instead of adding on the end-game, focusing on early game might be more profitable in the long term.

[roonwick]

there should be SOME reward for defending a captured castle or fort, even if nobody comes to attack the fort.

[rinky]

Originally Posted by Adrian

Basically capturing forts will, depending on how and which you have captured, establish a multiplier in the zones of those forts for the obtained WM coins. These coins will not be rewarded at the end of a timer, but with every enemy kill, such as when you get experience from them.

For example, if killing an enemy gives 5 WMC and I have captured a fort, I will only get 5 WMC. But, if I also have a castle, I could get the double: 10 WMC. And if I have the three buildings, the triple.

We already calculated, based on the current war numbers, that it would be a lot more balanced. Also, we're thinking about making the fort zones a bit bigger. Now that we finished all the analysis we think it is appropriate to give it a chance and obviously, know what you think about it!

How does this change the fundamental problem in, for instance, Haven server?

Just some thoughts about this idea you all are entertaining.

The question to be asked is, "how will the players game this?" Not "how would we like them to game this?" but "how will they game this?" Because, right now, the players figured out how to get loads of WMC by driving through the huge gaping hole in the system.

The only thing that will change is how the players game the system to twist it to their advantage. And, again, the advantage is with the group with large numbers.

Because this is how it will be gamed:

"Get a LARGE group and run over any small groups holding forts. This will keep them from holding forts or trying to hold forts, so nobody can challenge us or even be in competition with us. If we don't have a large group, we don't go to the forts so those groups cannot win WMC for killing us."

Because it's obvious by now that RP's don't mean much.

And WMC were once hard to get. Now they're so easy to get it's pitiful.

Rinky

[EmanuelM]

Originally Posted by roonwick

there should be SOME reward for defending a captured castle or fort, even if nobody comes to attack the fort.

Your reward is you get to invade without anyone defending there realm. WMC rewards are bad for the war quality in the game

[Anunnaki]

We can agree all that invation is all about zerging, so any rewards will be related to that system will bring only problem and will make balance worse and worse.

Any rewards related to this invation system, should be used to buy something that won't unbalance the game more and make the OP realm more OP.

As exemple :

* Invation system rewards (wmc), can be used to buy only some items like :
WM hat, WM costume, WM horse, Companions, some weapons for fusion...

* Pure war rewards (something like RP but more adjusted) that we can get anywhere during the war :
Amulets, rings ...

[roonwick]

Originally Posted by EmanuelM

Your reward is you get to invade without anyone defending there realm. WMC rewards are bad for the war quality in the game

I disagree. WMC awards are good for war. They promote attacking castles, leading to a more active warzone.

[Telwe]

I agree... just modify bonuses relative to populations...

[Frosk]

New version in Amun with the following changes, closer to a final version. We will still be working in some Realm Balance adjustments, which would be the last addition.

- Added: Obtaining Warmaster Coins when killing players in forts/castles/walls.
The base is 5 WMC per kill when the character is level 60. When there is negative level difference (IE: I'm level 60 and my enemy is level 55) the coins are reduced.
These coins are affected by the WMC Multipliers.
As with experience there are methods to avoid collusion and other possible abuses of this feature.
- Modified: Forts don't give WMC rewards for simply holding (because of obtaining them killing players). There are still rewards for getting a Relic out of the cage and for Invading (or avoiding them).
- Fixed: Disconnection after choosing a respawn point while affected by the Cremation spell.
- Fixed: Tenax and Vesper Dragon Sets for Warriors were indicating "Hit chance" instead of "Critical chance" in their descriptions. Anyway, the modifier applied was the correct one.
- Modified: Gold rewards from Treasure Chests in all the world are now enhanced.
- Minor visual and texts bugfixes.

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by Frosk

- Modified: Gold rewards from Treasure Chests in all the world are now enhanced.

Incredible (treasures were discussed back to 2008-2009, and since they never changed). Better late than never

How exactly are they enhanced ?