The genius idea "Mind Squasher"

[Iheartpancakes]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

The spell needs to be adjusted/replaced with something balanced.

How about a spell that lowers protection, cast speed, attack damage for limited duration?

[Svarec]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

99% sure this has nothing to do with pierce.

You are right it is mostly spear problem, thats why so many barbs using spears and not rapiers.
What i tried to say is every tree has it is own advantage blunt=MS slash=SC and spears=range, rapiers are useless crap as it is, thats why i said it is pierce but you are right it is spear advantage.

If you remove MS, blunt tree will be useless, same as rapiers.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Originally Posted by kowocki

The spell is good as it is.
With its 50% chance on lvl 5 and current RNG +much loger cooldown since one of past updates its not spammed.

The problem is the class numbers imbalance at forts among realms.

Recently i just LOL/cry seeing alsius big group of archers and mages helplessly trying to kill a group of red knights and few ammy barbs with conju support at aggy. Seriously i was only one knight in a group and nobody even bothered to wait for my aura.

Use brain, team work instead of crying. Can't do team work?-play single player games.

When last friday i logged barb and saw we got many dual wielding killers online but no support knight i relogged knight cause it was needed.

And yes, we got few players in each realm who are divas/self proclaimed heroes with ego as high as Himalayas/pets simply juicy targets. What i have learned from forum during past few years is that this bunch of "rock stars" constitute vast majority of these who always complain nerf nerf, buff buff because "i cant be OP all the time as some random guy managed to MS me and this stupid conju cast life saviour on that noob instead supporting me - a demi god 24/7 and i was killed instead farming my X-rps a day"

I agree. :]

I just saw two barbs write about how they get zerged then ms-ed and how its too overwhelming. Really? Being overwhelmed by overwhelming odds seems to be the logical conclusion. And anyways why would you charge a zerg when you have ill support or no support at all? Thats because its a common practice especially around barbs to charge this way. And lets say these same people charged them with support they may still be complaining like this: I charge a zerg and they southcross me and i'm dead. Really? That happened to you when you charge a zerg? Oh really?..

Learn when its the right time to charge a little better. But i'm guessing you'll keep complaining about how you don't use your brain much and say this: I charge a zerg and don't kill anything. No really?..


Proof:

Originally Posted by Loque

I don't need any ally buffs to kill anyone.

Barb mindset.

[Kyrenis]

Originally Posted by Svarec

You are right it is mostly spear problem, thats why so many barbs using spears and not rapiers.
What i tried to say is every tree has it is own advantage blunt=MS slash=SC and spears=range, rapiers are useless crap as it is, thats why i said it is pierce but you are right it is spear advantage.

I was referring to your statement about 8m kicks, spears dont give you godlike range on all your spells.

Originally Posted by Svarec

If you remove MS, blunt tree will be useless, same as rapiers.

I still use a rapier

Originally Posted by Ludwig

I just saw two barbs write about how they get zerged then ms-ed and how its too overwhelming. Really? Being overwhelmed by overwhelming odds seems to be the logical conclusion. And anyways why would you charge a zerg when you have ill support or no support at all? Thats because its a common practice especially around barbs to charge this way. And lets say these same people charged them with support they may still be complaining like this: I charge a zerg and they southcross me and i'm dead. Really? That happened to you when you charge a zerg? Oh really?..

Learn when its the right time to charge a little better. But i'm guessing you'll keep complaining about how you don't use your brain much and say this: I charge a zerg and don't kill anything. No really?..

Not sure if you are talking about one of my posts, but I never said I was facing overwhelming odds, I was facing an overwhelming amount of MS.
There is literally nothing you can do but pray if you get MSed by a barb that's under UM.

Originally Posted by Iheartpancakes

How about a spell that lowers protection, cast speed, attack damage for limited duration?

I would rather the blunt tree have something like this instead of a game winning chance spell.

[Anunnaki]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

I would rather the blunt tree have something like this instead of a game winning chance spell.

^this, finally a "logical thinker"

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

Not sure if you are talking about one of my posts, but I never said I was facing overwhelming odds, I was facing an overwhelming amount of MS.

There is literally nothing you can do but pray if you get MSed by a barb that's under UM.

Players who skill ms and have to sacrifice other spells to use it shouldn't have to pay for your unwillingness to adapt and be more flexible in battle.

Why complain here of your unwillingness to adapt? Your essentially complaining about other players using certain powers you will not skill yourself because your set on a certain type of setup which is not as effective as theirs is in battle.

[Kyrenis]

Originally Posted by Ludwig Von Mises

Players who skill ms and have to sacrifice other spells to use it shouldn't have to pay for your unwillingness to adapt and be more flexible in battle.

Why complain here of your unwillingness to adapt?

How is someone supposed to adapt to a spell that removes every single buff as soon as it is casted?
There is nothing you can do to counter it, especially as a warrior since you are forced to fight in melee range.

Originally Posted by Ludwig Von Mises

Your essentially complaining about other players using certain powers you will not skill yourself because your set on a certain type of setup which is not as effective as theirs is in battle.

I prefer not ensuring my victory with an overpowered coin flip of death.
However sometimes I use it on my knight to get revenge on the cunts that spam it.

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

How is someone supposed to adapt to a spell that removes every single buff as soon as it is casted?
There is nothing you can do to counter it, especially as a warrior since you are forced to fight in melee range.

I shouldn't have to tell this and you should already know but i'll give you a few examples. A barb with ms charging another barb without ms: The barb without ms (which i will assume is you) is getting charged by the barb with ms and UM (ms doesn't always work) you can cast disable limb level 4 or 5, and if the ms works, you can run while you are able to cast your buffs back, and maybe, cast roar-kick-fulmi when your opponent runs out of UM.

Another situation would be a barb without support charging a barb with a conjur on its back. You can't cast disable limb on a barb that has been buffed by a conjur. Now why would you charge a barb that has a conjur on its back without any ally support? Exactly you shouldn't do that unless you have some master plan to take them both out.

Anyways, if you refuse to adapt either in tactics or skills, or both, when dealing with other players and their setups in battle why bother to complain? Isn't this your own fault?

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

I prefer not ensuring my victory with an overpowered coin flip of death.

I thought playing barb was about "ensuring victory with an overpowered coin flip of death"??

[Kyrenis]

Originally Posted by Ludwig Von Mises

I shouldn't have to tell this and you should already know but i'll give you a few examples. A barb with ms charging another barb without ms: The barb without ms (which i will assume is you) is getting charged by the barb with ms and UM (ms doesn't always work) you can cast disable limb level 4 or 5, and if the ms works, you can run while you are able to cast your buffs back, and maybe, cast roar-kick-fulmi when your opponent runs out of UM.

Another situation would be a barb without support charging a barb with a conjur on its back. You can't cast disable limb on a barb that has been buffed by a conjur. Now why would you charge a barb that has a conjur on its back without any ally support? Exactly you shouldn't do that unless you have some master plan to take them both out.

Anyways, if you refuse to adapt either in tactics or skills, or both, when dealing with other players and their setups in battle why bother to complain? Isn't this your own fault?



I thought playing barb was about "ensuring victory with an overpowered coin flip of death"??

When did I ever say I was rushing without support? You are implying I have no idea how to play this game and you are making MS sound like a mere annoyance.
Why should 1 spell put you out of a fight for 40(+) seconds and/or be your certain death?

"Hurrhurr their barb has ms lets wait til we get 20 conjus so we can rush" -ludwig

[pieceofmeat]

Originally Posted by Kyrenis

When did I ever say I was rushing without support? You are implying I have no idea how to play this game and you are making MS sound like a mere annoyance.
Why should 1 spell put you out of a fight for 40(+) seconds and/or be your certain death?

"Hurrhurr their barb has ms lets wait til we get 20 conjus so we can rush" -ludwig

Barbs dont have to buff everything at once.

They can do plenty more or less unbuffed, unless maybe if they gimped themselves to only deal damage.

Work with you allies and live with the fact that cant 2 hit kill for 40 sec, its not the same as being out of fight.
They put themselves in that position by over buffing.

If you die you die, UM, DI etc is not god mode.
Im opinion ms is not half as deadly as a dizzy from a barb, just more annoying since it fucks with peoples over confidence in their OP buffs.