Item +damage bonus nerf on amun

doppelapfel · 08-15-2010, 11:31 AM

Boni are now what they should be: Small helpers that might decide a fight of 2 equal skilled persons. Before it was easy to win with the right gear, no matter the skill (at least in warlocks, marks and hunters case).

Gabburtjuh · 08-15-2010, 11:33 AM

boni arent what they should be, ppl paid for a bigger difference, you can loot those items to, or buy them from xim users, this update is just getting
20-30%of the effectiveness from your items while you paid for 100%

Raindance · 08-15-2010, 12:03 PM

NGD won't give you all your money back and mail it to your doorstep's, however they could've done the Horus Anniversary event this year and gave us Ximerin as a present (about 1500 or 2000) as they did in a past event long ago, which was 1500.

A small gift like that wouldn't hurt would it? It could be for an upcomming event...

tarashunter · 08-15-2010, 12:39 PM

1500 xim or 2000?lol i spent more and more to buy weapons....to soket them...and to remove gems....
And all the time i spent to grind?!
lol....
No one told me to do that,but if i know that game have this kind of change, with ximerin i can try to find medium wepon not slow oine as i have.
And repeat,i done that for all 6 char,and when you buy lukybox,often you find crappy items,so you can immagine how many lukybox i used.
You can't know it,but ngd yes,they just can check my credit card payment on their xim services.

metsie · 08-15-2010, 01:04 PM

yeah cast speed/attack speed stuff isn't good anymore either.

It's easy to say that "yes yes nerf items, they gave too much xxxx for users" IF they haven't used any money by themselves. Everybody had chance to buy xim stuff, so it's not our fault if we the buyers got some good stuff from boxes.

As I mainly play marks now, I can say that without those 200-300k xim spend in boxes I would not play it. BECAUSE class is so limited by mana so only "fun" option to me is using normals and it doesn't work if I hit less than mage with normal staff.

Instead of nerfing items that we paid for, why not increase magical/epic non-boss drop rate in boss fights or something like that.

If they continue to nerf stuff that we paid for, there is bigger chance to lose paying customers, because many can feel that they got scammed and now have items that does about nothing better than some crappy special items that everybody can "easily" get.

And IMO only items that gave some balance problems were dudes with dragon ammy+boss ring(s), and even those weren't that OP. I never had really big problems against them, just had to play more smart than against dudes with "normal" gear

ice_zero_cool · 08-15-2010, 01:28 PM

lol guys, stay calm. It's not only the items you paid for that got their damage boni reduced. It's ALL (weapon) damage boni that got reduced, so in comparison to other weapons without the gems or to the non-bought weapons they're still better. so don't whine about this so much, PLEASE.

It's not only the xim-users who got their damage reduced!

ice

tarashunter · 08-15-2010, 07:41 PM

Ice,is better i don't tell you how many real money i spent for xim.
I got a slow bow on my marks that is OP in Horus,while in Amun do only 25 dmg more than a medium bow....
I done the impossible in horus to have that bow and i had it just few weeks agò.
On taras my hunter i traded Vesper items to have gems(that now sucks) and hammer for barb.
I like the new update really much now,but if i think the money i have spent,and the time i have lost to grind,and the boss item i have treaded to have slow weapon,i feel bad.
Yes this things make me a bit depressed.
You(as NGD stuff) can't ignore that,sympli becase at first this game was a items based...can you say it was not?
Take for expamle a marks that got daen rha bow and make him fight on horus with who got a normal bow....who will win??(If the guys got the normal bow is not seriusly retardet he will win...and sorry for the retarded^^).
Well with the bow i've buyed on my marks i do only 10 dmg less than the daen rha bow.
For you,by the way i spent money to soket it,by the way i spent money to trade ximerin's epic items to have that bow,how can i feel?!
The bow is just an example.
Take my eve hammer,i sokted it with a +7% attak speed gems...
Well,money for gems(more than 1 luky box because lot luky box as usual give not a great gem),and money for the soket...
Same for my conju,for my lock,for my knight and for my hunter.
The game will be fun now,but i feel depressed and think that i still can have in my poket that BIG ammount of money if i know that slow items became crappy.

08-15-2010, 11:33 AM	#2
Gabburtjuh Baron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere where grinding does NOT exist Posts: 822	boni arent what they should be, ppl paid for a bigger difference, you can loot those items to, or buy them from xim users, this update is just getting 20-30%of the effectiveness from your items while you paid for 100% __________________ EX - Dutch Wannabe OP/Tank / Wannado Bash marks/knight/barb 60 Chuck Norris hunter 52 One Bite Snack, 60 barb / Wang King, 60 knight

08-15-2010, 01:28 PM	#6
ice_zero_cool Master Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 309	lol guys, stay calm. It's not only the items you paid for that got their damage boni reduced. It's ALL (weapon) damage boni that got reduced, so in comparison to other weapons without the gems or to the non-bought weapons they're still better. so don't whine about this so much, PLEASE. It's not only the xim-users who got their damage reduced! ice __________________ poisoned \| balgaro \| exiled \| whitechez \| shinkami \| photoshopped

08-15-2010, 11:31 AM	#1
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	Boni are now what they should be: Small helpers that might decide a fight of 2 equal skilled persons. Before it was easy to win with the right gear, no matter the skill (at least in warlocks, marks and hunters case).

08-15-2010, 12:03 PM	#3
Raindance Initiate Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 234	NGD won't give you all your money back and mail it to your doorstep's, however they could've done the Horus Anniversary event this year and gave us Ximerin as a present (about 1500 or 2000) as they did in a past event long ago, which was 1500. A small gift like that wouldn't hurt would it? It could be for an upcomming event...

08-15-2010, 12:39 PM	#4
tarashunter Initiate Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Retired Posts: 203	1500 xim or 2000?lol i spent more and more to buy weapons....to soket them...and to remove gems.... And all the time i spent to grind?! lol.... No one told me to do that,but if i know that game have this kind of change, with ximerin i can try to find medium wepon not slow oine as i have. And repeat,i done that for all 6 char,and when you buy lukybox,often you find crappy items,so you can immagine how many lukybox i used. You can't know it,but ngd yes,they just can check my credit card payment on their xim services.

08-15-2010, 01:04 PM	#5
metsie Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 59	yeah cast speed/attack speed stuff isn't good anymore either. It's easy to say that "yes yes nerf items, they gave too much xxxx for users" IF they haven't used any money by themselves. Everybody had chance to buy xim stuff, so it's not our fault if we the buyers got some good stuff from boxes. As I mainly play marks now, I can say that without those 200-300k xim spend in boxes I would not play it. BECAUSE class is so limited by mana so only "fun" option to me is using normals and it doesn't work if I hit less than mage with normal staff. Instead of nerfing items that we paid for, why not increase magical/epic non-boss drop rate in boss fights or something like that. If they continue to nerf stuff that we paid for, there is bigger chance to lose paying customers, because many can feel that they got scammed and now have items that does about nothing better than some crappy special items that everybody can "easily" get. And IMO only items that gave some balance problems were dudes with dragon ammy+boss ring(s), and even those weren't that OP. I never had really big problems against them, just had to play more smart than against dudes with "normal" gear

08-15-2010, 07:41 PM	#7
tarashunter Initiate Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Retired Posts: 203	Ice,is better i don't tell you how many real money i spent for xim. I got a slow bow on my marks that is OP in Horus,while in Amun do only 25 dmg more than a medium bow.... I done the impossible in horus to have that bow and i had it just few weeks agò. On taras my hunter i traded Vesper items to have gems(that now sucks) and hammer for barb. I like the new update really much now,but if i think the money i have spent,and the time i have lost to grind,and the boss item i have treaded to have slow weapon,i feel bad. Yes this things make me a bit depressed. You(as NGD stuff) can't ignore that,sympli becase at first this game was a items based...can you say it was not? Take for expamle a marks that got daen rha bow and make him fight on horus with who got a normal bow....who will win??(If the guys got the normal bow is not seriusly retardet he will win...and sorry for the retarded^^). Well with the bow i've buyed on my marks i do only 10 dmg less than the daen rha bow. For you,by the way i spent money to soket it,by the way i spent money to trade ximerin's epic items to have that bow,how can i feel?! The bow is just an example. Take my eve hammer,i sokted it with a +7% attak speed gems... Well,money for gems(more than 1 luky box because lot luky box as usual give not a great gem),and money for the soket... Same for my conju,for my lock,for my knight and for my hunter. The game will be fun now,but i feel depressed and think that i still can have in my poket that BIG ammount of money if i know that slow items became crappy.