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Old 08-18-2010, 10:55 AM   #1
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There's 0% chance that they'll keep HOTP by the same reason as why they are nerfing/removing Auras, HOTP is a passive 25m range Aura which most hunters don't even think of to skill, leaving it abandoned at level 1.
It wastes precious bandwidth from the server, even when there are no players around, and most people haven't realised that.

Of course I rather have something else than Cold Blood, but have there been any new spell suggestions?
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:09 AM   #2
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There's 0% chance that they'll keep HOTP by the same reason as why they are nerfing/removing Auras, HOTP is a passive 25m range Aura which most hunters don't even think of to skill, leaving it abandoned at level 1.
It wastes precious bandwidth from the server, even when there are no players around, and most people haven't realised that.

Of course I rather have something else than Cold Blood, but have there been any new spell suggestions?
Is that the official word, or just speculation? (Sounds reasonable, but do you have a link or confirmation?).
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:28 AM   #3
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There's 0% chance that they'll keep HOTP by the same reason as why they are nerfing/removing Auras, HOTP is a passive 25m range Aura which most hunters don't even think of to skill, leaving it abandoned at level 1.
It wastes precious bandwidth from the server, even when there are no players around, and most people haven't realised that.

Of course I rather have something else than Cold Blood, but have there been any new spell suggestions?
Easy fix, remove the "by each nearby ally" and change values to HotP.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:10 PM   #4
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HOTP works on an aura concept, and no similar skills will be (re)added in for the same reason that most auras were either removed or nerfed. It puts a significant load on the server for every single Hunter with level 1 HOTP to be casting a wide-range aura on everyone around them.

Yes, this is the official word, although I don't remember where I seen it.

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Easy fix, remove the "by each nearby ally" and change values to HotP.
Then it is no longer the RvR spell people prefered it as and thus there is no point in re-adding it.

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Old 08-18-2010, 12:14 PM   #5
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Head of the Pack by design was out of balance. The Hunter received "free" damage without penalty. Current Cold Blood is by far a more balanced design. It makes the hunter extremely dangerous for a very very short time. Regardless what NGD finally decides on (cause Amun is not live yet) - that buff should cost mana and not be constant.
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Head of the Pack by design was out of balance. The Hunter received "free" damage without penalty. Current Cold Blood is by far a more balanced design. It makes the hunter extremely dangerous for a very very short time. Regardless what NGD finally decides on (cause Amun is not live yet) - that buff should cost mana and not be constant.
"extremely dangerous for a very very short time" ? -> "slighly more dangerous for a very very short time"

Well, from my tests, cold blood + fast bow + rapid shot(5) is only 3 hits on Amun (without high +%as), so .... we can barely compare it to HOTP (passive, applying to _all_ hits while people were around).


Cold Blood isn't a nice addition to me, but yet hotp had to go.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:09 AM   #7
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"extremely dangerous for a very very short time" ? -> "slighly more dangerous for a very very short time"

Well, from my tests, cold blood + fast bow + rapid shot(5) is only 3 hits on Amun (without high +%as), so .... we can barely compare it to HOTP (passive, applying to _all_ hits while people were around).


Cold Blood isn't a nice addition to me, but yet hotp had to go.
I'm kinda along the same thoughts as you on this now. Given how HORRIFIC resist rates are - the best use of that skill is to use normal hits...that's alot of mana for just normal hits. I'll try to petition NGD to rethink that skill to something more realm related...hope I get some followers :P

But I love the direction in support the hunter is going.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:56 AM   #8
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Well with the update of not having skills on 1 and 0 instead wouldn't that then be fine since most people it seems don't use the skill?

The spell is quite powerful at level 44 I can hit on a unbuffed target anywhere up to 350ish damage and 550-600 ensnaring, combine this with a 30 lb and parabolic range I can hit quite far.

But considering that damage is lowered on Amun it would probably put me in the area of 250 damage if people are there.

Without it i'm not going to be at a fort and instead I will be hitting 180s on a grinder with my bear after I was lucky enough to not get seen because I would lose my ninja bear if I camo.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:33 PM   #9
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Then it is no longer the RvR spell people prefered it as and thus there is no point in re-adding it.

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It would be the same effect RvR. ¿Whats the problem?

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Head of the Pack by design was out of balance. The Hunter received "free" damage without penalty. Current Cold Blood is by far a more balanced design. It makes the hunter extremely dangerous for a very very short time. Regardless what NGD finally decides on (cause Amun is not live yet) - that buff should cost mana and not be constant.
I would say that the hunter's damage has never been a problem, the problem always has been the damage of the pet.
Passive powers are not out of balance per se.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:54 PM   #10
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Head of the pack is definately a RvR skill due to the need for surrounding allies. The hunters bow damage is strong in a group and weak alone. You need to differentiate between the two.
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