Barbs are boring now...

Klutu · 11-28-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulfsgar

Congratulations on winning against a retard ... You are a really godlike barbarian. Thumbs UP !!

If Amun is available again, we could duel. You'll choose the feint/balestra 1 build. I'll choose the modern brainless-build with feint/kick 4-5.
You won't win for sure. That's a safe bet for me, I know. But claiming such ridiculous things means demonstrating them

I'm looking forward to the video

hmmm you can do the same thing i mentioned VS skilled players aswell

Simply avoid the barb during there Duration of UM - Hit them with Roar then Howl and there good as dead

Theres always ways around knocks it's just difficult as hell

I also can't and wont make a video - Don't use any video software and simply don't care enough about the subject to waste my time making such a video

Ulfsgar · 11-28-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutu

hmmm you can do the same thing i mentioned VS skilled players aswell

Simply avoid the barb during there Duration of UM - Hit them with Roar then Howl and there good as dead

Theres always ways around knocks it's just difficult as hell

I also can't and wont make a video - Don't use any video software and simply don't care enough about the subject to waste my time making such a video

Making such a video takes you 1 second for pressing F9

I could do the same with you, couldn't I ?

Furthermore, I wouldn't call someone a skilled player, if he cast UM so early that you are able to escape...

Shwish · 11-29-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulfsgar

Making such a video takes you 1 second for pressing F9

I could do the same with you, couldn't I ?

Furthermore, I wouldn't call someone a skilled player, if he cast UM so early that you are able to escape...

Don't forget to compensate for the major drop in FPS while you're recording, and some of our FPS's are terrible enough as it is. Anyway, Klutu's one of the most experienced barbs on Horus, im pretty sure he'll win with that setup. 'No-Brain' barbs are easy to kill when you're properly prepaired for them.

The only problem I have with barbs at them moment is the fact that we cant see what buffs they on them and animations are so bugged so its impossible to know whether they have UM up or not. It results in me wasting cooldowns which totally throws off your cc rotation.

Im in this thread too

Ulfsgar · 11-29-2010, 02:33 PM

There's a difference between barbarians without a brain and barbarians who just use a brainless build

I hate both, but there isn't a real chance to win against a really skilled barbarian who uses such a build and knows how to use it exactly.

But the today's problem is: Skills are hardly needed to play successful. Really annoying...
Thus I'd love to diminish the popularity of barbarians by making them more difficult to play.
=> Less damage per normal hit => more damage by using spells/debuffs/more creative buffs/nice movements (eg: spear does little more damage, if you use the range eg: range >1.7 = +10% damage; no moving increases the defence ...)

Especially movement isn't as important as it should be. Concerning movements, you could have quite a lot possibilities to play.

rogueish · 11-30-2010, 01:22 AM

It's kind of funny reading this topic. Before the update the many of the poorer barb players ranted about the hunters being "troll tards". But reading this thread it becomes apparent that barbs are now "knock tards" lol.

It's especially funny when you see the ones who complained the most about hunters, saying barbs are not OP, then saying that the hunters who they said couldn't play are all making barbs because they're OP now. Make up your minds guys, you can't have it both ways. If hunters are losers who can only play OPd classes, and are all becoming barbs now, how can you say with a straight face that barbs are not insanely OPd ?

Nekoko · 11-30-2010, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueish

If hunters are losers who can only play OPd classes, and are all becoming barbs now, how can you say with a straight face that barbs are not insanely OPd ?

Easy I can say this, even barbs in their current iteration are far far far far FAR FAR less OPed than hunters ever were. They're still Oped but I'd choos ethe OPed barbs over the GODed hunters any day.

It's still not perfect but hey... It's not that bad.

_Enio_ · 11-30-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nekoko

Easy I can say this, even barbs in their current iteration are far far far far FAR FAR less OPed than hunters ever were. They're still Oped but I'd choos ethe OPed barbs over the GODed hunters any day.

It's still not perfect but hey... It's not that bad.

The biggest OP factor with Barbs currently is the $%!&#$! network/position system and SoW/Escapist failing alot by default + getting nullified on knock.

With the old system you could actually try to dodge a barb who is closer than 12m..

Shwish · 11-30-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueish

It's kind of funny reading this topic. Before the update the many of the poorer barb players ranted about the hunters being "troll tards". But reading this thread it becomes apparent that barbs are now "knock tards" lol.

It's especially funny when you see the ones who complained the most about hunters, saying barbs are not OP, then saying that the hunters who they said couldn't play are all making barbs because they're OP now. Make up your minds guys, you can't have it both ways. If hunters are losers who can only play OPd classes, and are all becoming barbs now, how can you say with a straight face that barbs are not insanely OPd ?

Barbarians are still beatable, Troll tards weren't.

Knekelvoeste · 11-30-2010, 01:07 PM

I want the old barbs back with old UM and i want to see knocks nerfed badly because i also think its annoying when fighting another barb thats casts kick 5 on me first and when i stand up i get a second knock feint 5 like omg?

11-29-2010, 02:33 PM	#4
Ulfsgar Pledge Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Niflheim Posts: 45	There's a difference between barbarians without a brain and barbarians who just use a brainless build I hate both, but there isn't a real chance to win against a really skilled barbarian who uses such a build and knows how to use it exactly. But the today's problem is: Skills are hardly needed to play successful. Really annoying... Thus I'd love to diminish the popularity of barbarians by making them more difficult to play. => Less damage per normal hit => more damage by using spells/debuffs/more creative buffs/nice movements (eg: spear does little more damage, if you use the range eg: range >1.7 = +10% damage; no moving increases the defence ...) Especially movement isn't as important as it should be. Concerning movements, you could have quite a lot possibilities to play. __________________ Niflheim/Alsius : Ulfsgar - LVL 50 Barbarian !Not active because of boring Barbarians!

11-30-2010, 01:07 PM	#9
Knekelvoeste Initiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 226	I want the old barbs back with old UM and i want to see knocks nerfed badly because i also think its annoying when fighting another barb thats casts kick 5 on me first and when i stand up i get a second knock feint 5 like omg? __________________ Rhaegar - Barbarian ________________ Daenarys - Conjurer The White Company

11-30-2010, 01:22 AM	#5
rogueish Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 74	It's kind of funny reading this topic. Before the update the many of the poorer barb players ranted about the hunters being "troll tards". But reading this thread it becomes apparent that barbs are now "knock tards" lol. It's especially funny when you see the ones who complained the most about hunters, saying barbs are not OP, then saying that the hunters who they said couldn't play are all making barbs because they're OP now. Make up your minds guys, you can't have it both ways. If hunters are losers who can only play OPd classes, and are all becoming barbs now, how can you say with a straight face that barbs are not insanely OPd ?