Platnium Boxes

[GoldLonatic]

Originally Posted by ice_zero_cool

No, I think Gabburtjuh is right on this one. Although you may not get the item you wanted, the chance would be MUCH higher then. Non-premium players can't choose what drop they get either, so it's completely fine as it is.

edit: Oh, and there are indeed many OP items in-game. If you really signed up for regnum at nov. 2010 then you probably wouldn't know it, so I won't blame you.

Actually I've been playing since 07 and yes the chance is higher but notice the word CHANCE is still there and of course you can't chose your drops because you didn't buy whatever the creature is holding you get for free if non-premium players got to chose they're drops then there would be no point in boxes anyways I think this is a really good idea. Oh btw I play ra server. I can tell by the way you guys speak English that y'all are from Horus.

[Gabburtjuh]

Originally Posted by GoldLonatic

I think this is a really good idea.

It's your idea.....
But there's clearly no point in arguing with you, because you won't change your point of view and because you are failing to see this idea from a non-premiums point of view.

Now, you can buy armor for example, get a good breastplate while you already have one and try it, for the part of armor you need, if you can pick whatever item type you want, you can just keep doing that over and over till you get a nice one, and you will try to sell all the ones that acctually suck, this has a few results:

1. The small item market in RO will shrink even more
2. NGD will lose money because it will get alot, yes, the chance increases alot since you have 100% instead of 17,67% chance on getting the part you want, easier to get what you want
3. This would improve abusability, since you can just buy alot of things of thesame type and flood the market with it, and get magns/boss gear fast for example

(didn't want to make a new post so: I am one of the premium users, it's not like it would give me a disadvantage...)

[Minorian]

Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

you are failing to see this idea from a non-premiums point of view.

I just have to do a quick word on this.

Non-premium players are living the life. There is no significant advantage do being premium, other than the horse that gets you killed more often than not. There are only corners to cut, everything can and with this idea would still be able to be achieved without premium.

Most games with some form of premium content adds a huge advantage to the people that drop some coin. Some games you can buy your way to the highest of lvls with the best equipment, not doing any work. Some give such amazing equipment that non-premium players dont even have a chance. Non-premium players in RO have it so much better than that.

Im actually kind of sick of the attitude some non-premium players have. Its a harsh reality, but face it, premium people have a stronger opinion than yours. You are lucky NGD even listens to you, lets you make suggestions, try to change the game, without you even paying them a cent. Premium players help the game, help it build and grow. We support the team behind the game. We keep it alive. In a normal game with not so awesome devs, your opinion wouldnt even be listened too, they wouldnt care.

This all may come off as selfcentered and douchey, but really, be thankful that NGD provides you all the services they provide to the people that support their company.

To end it all, I do not agree with the suggestion of this thread. I think it wouls be too easy for premium players to get their gear. Im a premium player against this idea. The above was just my rant about how some non-premium players come off way too confident in themselves.

[WarParty]

Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

I just have to do a quick word on this.

Non-premium players are living the life. There is no significant advantage do being premium, other than the horse that gets you killed more often than not. There are only corners to cut, everything can and with this idea would still be able to be achieved without premium.

Most games with some form of premium content adds a huge advantage to the people that drop some coin. Some games you can buy your way to the highest of lvls with the best equipment, not doing any work. Some give such amazing equipment that non-premium players dont even have a chance. Non-premium players in RO have it so much better than that.

Im actually kind of sick of the attitude some non-premium players have. Its a harsh reality, but face it, premium people have a stronger opinion than yours. You are lucky NGD even listens to you, lets you make suggestions, try to change the game, without you even paying them a cent. Premium players help the game, help it build and grow. We support the team behind the game. We keep it alive. In a normal game with not so awesome devs, your opinion wouldnt even be listened too, they wouldnt care.

This all may come off as selfcentered and douchey, but really, be thankful that NGD provides you all the services they provide to the people that support their company.

To end it all, I do not agree with the suggestion of this thread. I think it wouls be too easy for premium players to get their gear. Im a premium player against this idea. The above was just my rant about how some non-premium players come off way too confident in themselves.

I concur premium boxes are fine as it is although it does suck to get 10 gauntlets in a row but it happens. I to am a premium player and the only changes I would like to see happen with premium is tradeable mounts & barbarian weapon boxes should only drop items the class can use.
I have several people that I am friends with that are either in a country they can't buy xim in or simply can not afford it that I would GIFT a horse to if NGD permitted it. Just my 2 cents.

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[GoldLonatic]

OKay well you guys have given me your 2 scents and i concure that i guess its not a good idea for now but they really have to work on that 10 gauntlet in a row thing i mean c'mon

[Knekelvoeste]

Well i guess it was just bad luck. The chance you get a pair of gauntlets is completely random. I can agree with you that NGD implements a 1h weapon or 2h weapon button for barbarians but thats another discussion.

[Groark]

Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

There is no significant advantage of being premium....

Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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I dont care about Karma or messages because I never look at them. I dont care about rp's or to be on a top players list. I care about helping my realm and my real mates

[Arafails]

Lol, two scents. How did they smell?

In all seriousness though, for my class I've had better drops from grinding than buying premium – I did once get a moderately awesome 1h axe from a box, but I can't really use it, and that's a story for another thread. I am at this point in time not using a single item that I personally received from a lucky box. Sad, perhaps?

I've come across better premium item systems than NGD's (buy extra dungeon tickets, for example), but I've also come across much, much worse.

[GoldLonatic]

Originally Posted by Groark

Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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I dont care about Karma or messages because I never look at them. I dont care about rp's or to be on a top players list. I care about helping my realm and my real mates

I'm pretty sure all the items in thegame are available to the public its just the items we get from boxes can be dropped but that would be so rare you'd have a better chance at getting one from vesper

[_Kharbon_]

Originally Posted by Groark

Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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I dont care about Karma or messages because I never look at them. I dont care about rp's or to be on a top players list. I care about helping my realm and my real mates

I really don't think that this is the case. The "best gear" comes rarely from premium boxes. Just look at the threads where people in fact moan about boxes being almost useless. The game is also quite a bit about the skill and unfortunately also about luck.

Everyone can get uber gear WITHOUT the help of premium boxes; it depends on how long you play really (trading, buying/finding magnanintes, drops from mobs)

Apart from horses there is no real advantage of being premium. It only allows you to take shortcuts, look better and have bigger stash

The only must-have premium item is a horse. But even without it the game is fuly playable.

I thing NGD did an amazing job with their premium content.