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Old 10-23-2011, 09:19 AM   #41
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Acctually, only acc blocked during investigation, but that's off topic....
I'm just trying to say, people that abuse bugs on purpose, especially in RvR/PvP should get punished so badly they'll never think about doing it again, just a 7 day ban doesn't help shit, they'll do it again anyway, perma ban or resetting chars to 1 would be nice after being reported 3 times (and found guilty) would be a good punishment imo
The problem is there's alot of people who sit and look for "ban" material even when there is none, because they don't like someone. If the system is flexible enough, you can get someone banned if you try hard enough. Evidence can be faked, especially in a medium such as an online game (an extremley buggy one, might I add), and NGD has admitted that their logging facilities are limited, and even then it is a massive amount of work to go through, hence why investigations take so long.

Exploiters are everywhere, in every system, meaning that even the ban system itself will be affected by people looking to exploit it.

This is the whole problem with such strict views, and the laws formed by them.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:20 PM   #42
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Funny that no 1 of ngd talks here.... I am so scared that i will lose my account. All the hard work what i did over more than 2years. I realy hope you will get ur account back mate.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:22 PM   #43
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I actually witnessed Wiktorio 'abusing' the bug to attack us through the wall at Syrtis noble, during three different invasions on three different days. Unfortunately for him, I could also shoot and kill him through the wall when he did it :P
Seriously I don't understand what's wrong here with Wiktorio. He could shot at you, you could shot at him, you both through the wall (I should say "through the invisible window in the wall"), so there is no bug abuse at all. Indeed there is a bug, but it's not an abuse that could have given him an unfair advantage.

If melee chars are complaining, they should also complain about fort walls because they have to go in fort through entrance, avoid guards, climb up the stairs, then chase ranged players all along the wall, while they can get hit all along their way, or complain about any other obstacle that gives an height or position advantage to ranged classes, as terrain, rocks, door or window openings in buildings/forts, upper exit in towers, and so on.

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However, I don't think he deserved a permanent ban for this. It made me laugh and I got RP from him lol.
If this is the true reason for his perma-ban, I fully agree, he doesn't deserve it.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:33 PM   #44
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it was confirmed permanent? thats just a bit..way over the top if so. I won't say much else cuz i dunno what he was banned for according to NGD (I never even found out why "I" was banned either) but that really really sucks if it truly was just because of a wall glitch.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:24 AM   #45
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I actually witnessed Wiktorio 'abusing' the bug to attack us through the wall at Syrtis noble, during three different invasions on three different days. Unfortunately for him, I could also shoot and kill him through the wall when he did it :P

However, I don't think he deserved a permanent ban for this. It made me laugh and I got RP from him lol.

I can't believe that after years of creating this game and half a decade running it, NGD couldn't even come up with a 'three strikes, you're out' banning system. He's not the first person to receive an unfair ban from NGD, and he certainly won't be the last.
If you were shooting through the wall, why didn't you got banned, and wiktorio did??
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:55 AM   #46
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If you were shooting through the wall, why didn't you got banned, and wiktorio did??
cause wictorio wasn't behind wall ? and he couldn't report in answer cause on his client it was alright
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #47
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If you were shooting through the wall, why didn't you got banned, and wiktorio did??
NGD has already given me an unfair permanent ban on 1 of my chars, so they let me get away with this :P

Seriously though, he was attacking me through the wall and would have killed me if I had not started shooting back. That doesn't excuse the fact I also 'abused' this wall glitch, so maybe him and I deserve a 1 week ban or something... not a permanent ban...
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:56 AM   #48
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I'm Wiktorio, lvl 59 syrtis warlock on horus.
My account is blocked because i attacked enemies from invisible place at noble house. It is bug ofc.
I wonder why NGD is so silly, and block players instead of bugs fixing.
Maybe NGD should block/kick/ban all players and bugs fixes will not be needed?
Congrats NGD,
another player leaving horus for raven.
BB all.
raven = same bugs and same block/kick/ban

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Old 10-24-2011, 01:45 PM   #49
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I'm Wiktorio, lvl 59 syrtis warlock on horus.
My account is blocked because i attacked enemies from invisible place at noble house. It is bug ofc.
I wonder why NGD is so silly, and block players instead of bugs fixing.
Maybe NGD should block/kick/ban all players and bugs fixes will not be needed?
Congrats NGD, another player leaving horus for raven.
BB all.
Hi,

Let me get this straight; what you're saying here is that you actually knew you were abusing and taking advantage over your opponents by using an in-game collision error; instead of playing fair.
So, someone reported your behavior and you complaing getting banned?
Sorry dude, but this thing is just weird.

Anyway, your ban has been applied on Sept 18th and is only 7 days long (tomorrow it'll be lifted); so there's no need to do this kind of things just because you can't play with your character for a week.

Regards and closing this.
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