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Old 09-16-2012, 01:38 PM   #1
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Question one , how many old Horus players actually feel this way ? A few empty barrels do make a lot of noise but it does not mean there are a lot of them. If it is a small minority of players spouting that opinion, I don't consider it 'Horus players'. That is just individual bias. It does not require a stereotype.
In such case consider them trolls and just use ignore command if they piss you off. Simple. Besides, if you know you are on equal footing or maybe even better, why do you even care about their opinion? Write it off and make your skills on the battlefield do the talking.

Question two. It does not, mostly. Many old tactics are not relevant. However, some basic ones do still work. Mechanics have changed a lot and sometimes (in my antiquated opinion) for the worst.
With that said, it is always a benefit to put both old and new excessive egos aside to try tactics both new and old. Ego is one thing both Horus and Havenites have in abundance.
Is it that hard to listen and integrate what works and drop what does not ? So what if some player waxes warm with emotional content. Simply edit that out and use the relevant stuff. I'll forgive those being battered by teenage (or post teenage) hormones if they are not able to do that.
Sue me if I am nostalgic. I played a long time through many iterations and I believe I am in a position to judge what worked better from a fun standpoint. So If I mope and cry a little it is because the game had so many uniques that were gradually eroded over time to make a more generic MMO. In a few cases, the game devolved instead of evolved. That is probably the only thing very new players may not quite grasp. It is the experience of watching the game grow and evolve and actually knowing what was gained and lost over the years.
For that , I will never regret being a nostasgic, creeking old veteran. Its been a nice ride.

I don't think I am any better than players from another server. Actually, I don't care about who comes from where including other realms on the same server, it is such a non issue for me.

The questions are trollish but I think they deserved a response.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
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why the assumptions i'm mad? o.o

i already quit the game, just curious


oh and the responses are very good so far anyone else wanna contribute?
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:40 PM   #3
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NGD players dislike GameSamba players , from what Ive been told, because GS players had things handed to them on a silver platter. GMs that tanked Boss and SuperBoss mobs, 200% and 500% realm wide boosts for days at a time, and contests and activities. These are all things that NGD has not given to its userbase, yet GameSamba willing gave its user base all this.

Resentment plain and simple. If you get what others dont, and others become jealous of it, sure signs of superiority are going to play a role in it.

"Oh, Ravenites suck, I grinded my knight to level 60 with no boost events, only 50% boost scrolls, and with no dedicated conj. That makes me 100 times the player that any Ravenite is, because I respect what Ive earned. Those idiots just bought their way to high levels, and gear, and they had GM and GC help with their bosses."

This kind of rationale is why there is a divide between NGD originating users and GS originating users.

And its a totally asinine and retarded way to think. Game is a game. Ive seen Ravenites that are 5 times a skilled as any NGD player. And Ive seen the opposite as well.

Nothing to see here. These arent the droids your looking for. Go about Your business. Move along....Move along.

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Old 09-16-2012, 08:43 PM   #4
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why the assumptions i'm mad? o.o

i already quit the game, just curious


oh and the responses are very good so far anyone else wanna contribute?
Just a quick question. Where you expecting a response from the guy who said this:

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As far as I'm concerned, GS forum users should be seen and not heard, preferably not even seen if possible. Bugger off.
If you were then I think he quit.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:31 PM   #5
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Players that think they're better because they played on another server are players you shouldn't pay much attention to. I remember when horus and raven fused and i kept reading oh those raven noobs, don't listen to them they play bad. And many raven players calling us elitist etc, we think we're good just because we play long. I was like wtf, we're on the same team, just more players.
And just because you play for years and years doesn't make you a good player. This game changes so much each year, if you don't adjust and keep playing with the nostalgic memory of "oh but this is how we used to do it", you get pwnd.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:35 PM   #6
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just a quick answer nope just curious
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:43 AM   #7
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:07 AM   #8
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Players that think they're better because they played on another server are players you shouldn't pay much attention to. I remember when horus and raven fused and i kept reading oh those raven noobs, don't listen to them they play bad. And many raven players calling us elitist etc, we think we're good just because we play long. I was like wtf, we're on the same team, just more players.
And just because you play for years and years doesn't make you a good player. This game changes so much each year, if you don't adjust and keep playing with the nostalgic memory of "oh but this is how we used to do it", you get pwnd.
That's aside from the fact that most Raven players, including myself, played Horus (and Ra) for many years before joining Raven.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:26 AM   #9
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I have not noticed very much Raven and Horus players are divided. At least in syrtis, I think we get along pretty good. But as expected, most raven players kept their raven clans and horus players kept their horus clans, which might look like we are divided. But at this point, as being horus player I might fail to see it from Raven player perspective.
In fact, I have joined to Raven clan. It is great, got to know nice people with who I enjoy to play the game, great humor and so on. Personal qualities matter more than that how long someone has played, as long as new players are friendly and willing to learn how this game works I have no problem with them.
Good to remember there are always some arrogant jerks. Have met some from horus but also from raven. It is not only one-sided. If you notice people don't like you, take a look at mirror and think about your own behavior, because it is most likely not related to that from which server you came. Saying this from my own experience, now when thinking I might also say things a bit too rudely which may cause sometimes problems between people.

I think though we met some culture differences when servers merged, but that was expected too. We(syrtis) started to use mounts more when moving as zerg and sometimes grouped badly which annoyed some players. But I guess by now most are used to this. And those who are not, in time they should be too.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:33 AM   #10
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Server merges bring some changes. And ofc with changes some people get more nervous.

Me for example. I got a little more whiny and/or grumpy when i saw the initial anarchy and zergy rides. But now things get slowly back to normal and calm down.

The changes new people bring are nice and funny. I remember when Tyr ru**ers :P got merged. They bringed the jokes the fun and strange language in general. Raven's bringed the rides and little more anarchy, but hey it is game ment to be fun.

Do not take things so seriously after all.
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