to much dam agro mobs!!! - Page 5

chuckclose1 · 11-24-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by makarios68

The agro system atm is way over the top.

8 great w.wolves locking on to you with evil intention is neither fair nor balanced.

agree'd they r way to aggro for especially low lvl 30's comin in the wz for the first time

i been haveing to save alot of them lately

_Enio_ · 11-24-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by trash

I don't see why monsters should be any different.

because there are a huge amount of them all around. It has nothing to do with making them more challenging.. theyre not challenging at all.. make them interesting to fight or sth, let them have some basic spells or tactics but dont just make them aggro all in range 25 as it is now as it has now far to much impact on PvP in my opinion. its not PvP, its who gets the aggros first.. (at least sometimes, what can be really annoying..)

chuckclose1 · 11-24-2007, 03:47 AM

exactly i was attacked by a green hunter and at the same time a great ware wolf attacked me

hunter , his pet , great ware wolf vs me

this happens alot

_dracus_ · 11-24-2007, 12:20 PM

Please fix it soon, some quests are nearly impossible now cause of the new aggro system (Emerald hills is creeping of aggro Mobs, so it's impossible to go there now).

trash · 11-25-2007, 09:21 PM

Fix it...

Trix sighs

Translates to break it again for anyone actually wanting a challenge.

If this was a narrative situation, okay, so there's an area full of dangerous creatures, fine. There's two possible reasons you want to go near there. Because you're trying to get to another location, and it's in the way, or you need to kill the monsters there for a quest.

Solution in the first case, plan a route around the creatures, solution to the second case, attack the monsters around the edges. I've levelled a new character quite happily since the patch, it's not that hard.

And if your complaining about getting attacked whilst trying to do PVP in the warzone, again, use some narrative logic, stop picking fights in areas swarming with agro creatures...

When faced with a challenge, instead of getting a petition together to have your hand held even more, why not stand up to the challenge, it can be rewarding once you get used to it, I promise...

trash · 11-25-2007, 09:25 PM

It's almost funny.

When the monsters we're sleepy, nobody complained. People joyously shot at immobile targets, still delighting in the XP, even though it was tediously dull.

When an improved faction system was suggested, everyone focussed on monsters attacking each other, again this was looked upon favorably and people were all for it.

Now monsters are making an effort to attack players and work together, people are acting like its the end of the world...

For us a monster means XP and loot, for a monster, it's only goal, it's only reason for existing, is to kill us, the players, why are people so shocked now they've been given the ability to do that. Next people will start crying when monsters actually get powers as well...

chuckclose1 · 11-26-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trash

It's almost funny.
Next people will start crying when monsters actually get powers as well...

i think it would be a great idea for monsters to have some powers

but not the mobs now

we need some new bad ass monsters that it takes a few people to kill

klixon · 11-26-2007, 02:08 AM

I am actually sort of starting to like it in some masochistic way...
You have to plan your attack before-hand, making sure you have an escape route if necessary.
It takes a bit of getting used to, but in the end i like the challenge it present.

If you want to hunt alone, tred carefully and you'll manage.
I had to get me some "very hard" goblin shaman masters for a quest on goblin mountain. Instead of just barging up the hill, i stayed at the foot of the hill, carefully selecting my targets, being aware of all other mobs around me, so i notice when they get agro.
It wasn't even that very hard and i managed to get them without dying. And the thrill when doing so was excellent. Much less boring then when i was levelling my other char...

It's fun... We were all just spoiled...

_Enio_ · 11-26-2007, 02:28 AM

trash i think you misunderstand it a bit..

you talk about challenge, ok.. the challenge now is to just avoid certain areas.

try to get to PP2 atm.. there is no way from any side at the moment.

try to fight somebody and plan. you can hardly plan because the aggro range is that big that youll hardly find a way through them.

try to use the mobs in hunt for your advantages by planning a route or sth.. nochance as they have no real logic in attacks nor when running back when you get out of follow range.

where the hell is the challenge? challenge is there when there is the right balance, that is what i mean.. its unbalanced at the moment.
As it is now it has too much luck-influenced impact on PvP and you cannot really change the odds by your skill (what would be a challenge). at the experimental it is unbalanced too as there the range is now much too low.

makarios68 · 11-26-2007, 04:03 PM

The great w.wolves were agro a few months ago.

I have no problem with them being agro again.

I also agree that having agro mobs can make the game more interesting and challenging.

But currently the agro mobs are too persistent.

8 or 10 mobs following you for such a long distance is simply too much.

11-24-2007, 03:47 AM	#43
chuckclose1 Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: baltimore MD. United States Posts: 369	exactly i was attacked by a green hunter and at the same time a great ware wolf attacked me hunter , his pet , great ware wolf vs me this happens alot __________________ CRYTOPS Kritipz Flame of Vahalla UTGHAR Warlock lvl 44 NORDO LVL5 ARCHER= SUPER NOOB

11-24-2007, 12:20 PM	#44
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	Please fix it soon, some quests are nearly impossible now cause of the new aggro system (Emerald hills is creeping of aggro Mobs, so it's impossible to go there now). __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

11-25-2007, 09:21 PM	#45
trash Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Leeds, United Kingdom Posts: 253	Fix it... Trix sighs Translates to break it again for anyone actually wanting a challenge. If this was a narrative situation, okay, so there's an area full of dangerous creatures, fine. There's two possible reasons you want to go near there. Because you're trying to get to another location, and it's in the way, or you need to kill the monsters there for a quest. Solution in the first case, plan a route around the creatures, solution to the second case, attack the monsters around the edges. I've levelled a new character quite happily since the patch, it's not that hard. And if your complaining about getting attacked whilst trying to do PVP in the warzone, again, use some narrative logic, stop picking fights in areas swarming with agro creatures... When faced with a challenge, instead of getting a petition together to have your hand held even more, why not stand up to the challenge, it can be rewarding once you get used to it, I promise... __________________ Trix "Wraith Brigand" of The Company of Ghosts Drunk harlot and master duelist...

11-25-2007, 09:25 PM	#46
trash Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Leeds, United Kingdom Posts: 253	It's almost funny. When the monsters we're sleepy, nobody complained. People joyously shot at immobile targets, still delighting in the XP, even though it was tediously dull. When an improved faction system was suggested, everyone focussed on monsters attacking each other, again this was looked upon favorably and people were all for it. Now monsters are making an effort to attack players and work together, people are acting like its the end of the world... For us a monster means XP and loot, for a monster, it's only goal, it's only reason for existing, is to kill us, the players, why are people so shocked now they've been given the ability to do that. Next people will start crying when monsters actually get powers as well... __________________ Trix "Wraith Brigand" of The Company of Ghosts Drunk harlot and master duelist...

11-26-2007, 02:08 AM	#48
klixon Initiate Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Paddo's plukken Posts: 149	I am actually sort of starting to like it in some masochistic way... You have to plan your attack before-hand, making sure you have an escape route if necessary. It takes a bit of getting used to, but in the end i like the challenge it present. If you want to hunt alone, tred carefully and you'll manage. I had to get me some "very hard" goblin shaman masters for a quest on goblin mountain. Instead of just barging up the hill, i stayed at the foot of the hill, carefully selecting my targets, being aware of all other mobs around me, so i notice when they get agro. It wasn't even that very hard and i managed to get them without dying. And the thrill when doing so was excellent. Much less boring then when i was levelling my other char... It's fun... We were all just spoiled... __________________ We'll force you to be nice to each other. Kill you, before you kill each other. Violent pacification!

11-26-2007, 02:28 AM	#49
_Enio_ Marquis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,843	trash i think you misunderstand it a bit.. you talk about challenge, ok.. the challenge now is to just avoid certain areas. try to get to PP2 atm.. there is no way from any side at the moment. try to fight somebody and plan. you can hardly plan because the aggro range is that big that youll hardly find a way through them. try to use the mobs in hunt for your advantages by planning a route or sth.. nochance as they have no real logic in attacks nor when running back when you get out of follow range. where the hell is the challenge? challenge is there when there is the right balance, that is what i mean.. its unbalanced at the moment. As it is now it has too much luck-influenced impact on PvP and you cannot really change the odds by your skill (what would be a challenge). at the experimental it is unbalanced too as there the range is now much too low. __________________ Fix the Marksman subclass: Suggestion

11-26-2007, 04:03 PM	#50
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	The great w.wolves were agro a few months ago. I have no problem with them being agro again. I also agree that having agro mobs can make the game more interesting and challenging. But currently the agro mobs are too persistent. 8 or 10 mobs following you for such a long distance is simply too much.