Ngd Fix This

[Godofsilver]

Ah, yes, I forgot escapist and SoW; most likely because I never got to use them , thanks for that
This explains how you get away
Muahahahahahahahaha *cough spam spam cough* hahahaha....

Anyway,
Ok, as I said, it makes a difference in pursuits, and I think running like hell from a fort and having people chase you a pursuit, but I see where you're coming from, where you get so far away they don't chase you.

I still don't mind though, but you have a point. I think it's fine, but that's just me, the level 31 goat man

[mrclean]

Originally Posted by Katiechan

uh.. that has nothing to do with what I was saying.
We were talking about armor-per-part as opposed to what it adds up to in the character window.

So I did not understand this:

Originally Posted by Katiechan

This is true--each piece provides only a certain % and only Knights can add up to 100%(with shield).

What does it means? Especially the part "100%(with shield)"

[ncvr]

It means that each armour piece(pauldron, legging, etc) only provide a certain percentage of armour points, and since knights have shields, they are the only ones who can achieve 100%.

[mrclean]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

It means that each armour piece(pauldron, legging, etc) only provide a certain percentage of armour points, and since knights have shields, they are the only ones who can achieve 100%.

Ah ok! got it now! sorry I misunderstood your previous statement

[padreigh]

The thing with

Escapist right before going invis would have a run speed of 80.5%.

is irrelevant. Camou cancels active spells imho, so all defensives gone, all speedburst gone. Hunter in camou got (115%(+armor%))/2 movement.
Escaping for hunters with passive speed and escapist plus maybe sow is very fast already (short time)
115% with passive
+25% witch Mobility
+40% Escapist as Starter for 5 sec as long as Enemy are near.
+15% witch SoW
To get that you need 19 Evasion and 8 PP spent (Escapist just as starter not for longterm pursuits against Onslaught/Sprint barbs, then you need 12 PP).

So you need to sacrify others for it and thats fine, hunter dont do much damage with such a build (either PetDamage or BowDamage, both wont work out or you dont have any skills (Tricks) to Stun/KnockDown. So either a canonlykillfromambush/candisturbenemies/guerilla-runaway or some kind of decent damage but not escaping weak marksversion (with bow+pet).

This game is mainly about stunning, knockdown, dizzy in RvR (not much a hunter can do here), in PvP i found about 3 tactics work:
- either knockdown and dispell/malbuff the enemy and try to kill him with good selfprotection on (hunter with pet(dmg), either_bow(dmg), tricks(stunn fist, sudden strike,ambush,confuse, distracting shot, dirty fighting = immobilize, malbuff and some evasion = selfbuff)
OR
- scouting + tricks + bow + evasion for hit-and-run tactics ( either longbow or shortbow high or both bowtypes and weaponswitching(with wont work with buffs as it yet is bcause buffs vanish on weaponchange) on mediate lvl)
OR
- low scouting + tricks + 2 bows + pets and hope you deal enough damage in those combined areas (bows+pet) that you can kill enemie ... will work against mages+other archers sometimes but mostlikly youre dead if you use it on warriors.

The 1st wont work well on barbs(kill you with 3 hits) and warlocks(2 spells), the 3rd is risky. The 2nd wont get you a kill in one rush but you can use tactic of needles ... if you hit em often enough they might die ... or chase you. In either way you distracted them from hunting/killing others/getting forts or whatever. Silly or not these builds get the most complains about it, because the attacked get denied of rp and complain about lightningfast archers - unkillable archers - ... - they just forget that you seldom kill any other lvl 50 if he plays smart. Im not 50 (42 yet) but i dont see hunters OP, i get killed a lot (even by lowerlvl barbs/marks/warlocks) and im most usefull in a group who needs a tracker with some additional damage (i use pets, regardless if they drown if taunted or have worse AI bcause i feel that each hunter should have a pet - its about style, not rp).
The armor most suits the 2nd way of fighting and advatages at hunts. Id rather have something similar in all realms but i doubt it makes such a difference. Most hunters that escape dont escape bcause of 3% armorspeed but by combining theire speedadvantages, maybe use caltrops on pursuiters and good timing (that is:break from fight at 1/3mana and come back).

[mrclean]

No one can pass 50% speed if it's not so there's a bug...

EDIT: sorry probably that 115% is a +15% I read wrongly

Originally Posted by padreigh

Escaping for hunters with passive speed and escapist plus maybe sow is very fast already (short time)
115% with passive
+25% witch Mobility
+40% Escapist as Starter for 5 sec as long as Enemy are near.
+15% witch SoW
To get that you need 19 Evasion and 8 PP spent (Escapist just as starter not for longterm pursuits against Onslaught/Sprint barbs, then you need 12 PP).

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by padreigh

The thing with

(Casting speed buffs before going invis) is irrelevant. Camou cancels active spells imho, so all defensives gone, all speedburst gone.

I am sorry friend, but your humble opinion is wrong. Camoflage DOES NOT cancel your active defensive spells.

[Vr1]

Originally Posted by gph

Give the three realm speed boost armor...

Hey gph and other ROL Players:

Creating items that increase Movement Speed was, in fact, an error by the Content team. Apologies for that.

Those items will increase Casting Speed instead. This change will be available this week in the experimental server and next week in the official server.

Again, sorry about the inconveniences and thanks a lot for your comments.

[_dracus_]

Thanks Vr1 for your answer. It sounds like next update will have a lot of fix

By the way, thanks for this great game, even if I am whining from time to time, there is still some fun in this game

[Valorius]

Vr1 you guys are doing a great job, and your efforts are much appreciated! Thanks very much for this clarification.