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Fast attack weapons can land at least 3 to 5 hits during casting process if I recall, mages and archers using SB can use speed attack boost by pre-buffing (archers face a hit chance penalty but almost all above 40 are, or should be, using a xym bow that denies that penalty). If the hunter is running it's because there are more then he can handle, switch to fast and do normal hits, it will cancel camu if there are at least 2 players hitting and if you are alone you still have some probabilities to pierce SoW... remember also that SoW has "bad days"... Finally the whining is switching to game mechanism and tactics discussion. As I stated before, I think we should rather think about it then on balancing the hunters (or other classes). Now shut up DM (jocking), at this rate the goats will turn even harder to get killed (just go pawned... why do they always hit me first?... cuz I'm not "normal" perhaps?!... gah, back to grinding  ).
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03-13-2008, 07:08 AM
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dual shoot rules out shield piercing, lower cool down and less mana for almost the same damge (but it depends on the bow) dex passive is very good, if you have short bow tree on a higher lvl (most long bow users have short bow on 7 or even 11 because of dex passive) you can even get a higher passive. You will notice that with more dex your spells hit more often, also you will evade more conc buff is freakin awesome, you can even hit almost every attack on very hard mobs with it, without a lot are either resisted or evaded. At lvl 5 duration is almost cooldown tear apart is a great spell too, makes dmg independent from armor and is the most powerful damage spell of a hunter. break apart from long bow tree realy sucks inmho, long cooldown, long casting time, much mana. I as a marksman don't use it, I have much better damage spells. But I am not realy sure which effect the -const of break apart has... hit chance passive is also great, especially for hunters who rely a lot on basic damage and less on damage skills. hinder is also good, especialy when you are chased, but it is also often used when you chase somebody to slow him down, mostly used when ensnarring arrow missed and finally rep shoot...very good dmg spell...imagin you are a hunter and use camo to neak to a group of levelers. You get yourself in position and cast it... or in fort wars after breaking the door, or after a terror... short bow tree is realy better than longbow imho...but as I said...I am too dumb to use it. I only switch to fast short bow sometimes when I realy need the attack speed, especially when facing a barb. But at big wars short bow is in disadvantage because of the range just my 2 cents, even when they are off topic...but actually there is not realy a topic to discuss things like this. We should discuss much more about spells, spell combinations and spell timing than about which spell to nerf next or which spell needs a change
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Of course I don't know what NGD is planning to implement to other classes in the future, like dispel and other things, but for the moment I think hunters are quite balanced, actually they were it even more before the latest change of camo. For this I realy think that camo should not be allowed to cast while under attack. When the hunter manages to runs away to cast camo, or he hides behind a stone, a tree or a mob to cast camo I have no problem with, this is good tactics, but when the hunter sees he won't win a fight before the fight started he will use sotw and camo to get away. And he will get away in most cases. Even without camo the hunter has a very big chance to get away because of speed, sotw, dodge, spell elude and low profile. But using sotw and camo makes the chance to get away too big. And all other people are pissed because they cannot catch a hunter and will just whine to nerf them. Cancel camo when beeing under attack is a fair compromise which won't imbalance anything I think. But only my opinion which comes from my limited mind. I am glad some people like you and DM enlighten me from time to time.
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03-13-2008, 07:42 AM
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Always knew you were smart, even though you hate me so. This type of attitude will go farther then any on these boards and propagate a true sense of community. I commend thee Sir Signatus! And just for that I got this for ya: You got a body like the devil and you smell like sex I can tell you're trouble but I'm still obsessed [Chorus:] Because you know you're so hot, I want to get you alone So hot, I wanna get you stoned So hot, I don't want to be your friend I want to fuck you like I'm never gonna see you again ....Yeah.....C'mon....Yeah You're like the kiss of death, like the hand of fate I can tell you're trouble but I still want a taste [Chorus x2] Because you're so hot I want to get you alone I want to get you stoned I don't want to be your friend I want to fuck you like I'm never gonna see you again See you again See you again kid rock: so hott |
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03-13-2008, 08:01 AM
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yeah, Hell_bound, you managed it once more to have a bad language in your post (hey...it is the youth that reads this here...my 10 year old son wants to read the forum too, but because of people like you I have to make him stoping to read this forum. Nice job!) Also, don't post lyrics all over the foum, it is annoing. Say what you want to say, but with your own words, please. I could tell much more but I don't want this thread also to be a flamewar about your strange person because that is all you aim for with your provocative way to post.
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03-13-2008, 08:03 AM
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About tracking under camu... it isn't that good imo, if you need to use a high lvl track spell you loose much mana so it won't be mana wise to do it often. And all seasoned hunters know places where its usage is pointless (how many places you know where item farming is a constant? and where lvls 37-42 grind? and 42-46?.. etc.). The most penalized by it will be, and don't laugh it's an opinion, hunters! Because if you are hunting in a group and track invisible you won't have your friends synergy bond and they won't see you immediately changing direction (so basically, you wont use it), and if you are hunting a hunter and you know where he is and you know he suspects where you are (but you also know how to use the environment), you can't wait his tracking (because you know when a hunter need one) for having the 1st shot advantage... so it will be like "who casted camu 1st is doomed" and "who needed more tracks is doomed" when concerning to the outcome (relating to 1st shot advantage and mana saving). Shooting invisible however... that would be a funny thing to whine about! 
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03-13-2008, 08:10 AM
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Yeah twat that is what I thought, now stfu! Your bias is showing you hypocrite, for you so eger to please the maker of the comic, but because I pissed you off you take anything I fucken say and turn it against me. Yeah that's right you a fucken hater! For reference: http://regnum-cba.tk/ Or even better http://regnumcba.blox.pl/html/131072...15.html?1,2008 0103 has the word fuck in it |
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03-13-2008, 08:25 AM
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@Hell_bound: the regnum comic is independed from the official forum from regnum online...and actually it is funny. Sure, reading your posts makes me smiling too, but not because of your humor...it is your failed trial to bring us a message...you even have to use swearwords to convince us from you beeing right. Did you ever see the youth beeing that rude towards you here in forums? btw, I just reported your last post, regards
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03-13-2008, 08:35 AM
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You may think it is now, but remember seeds are planted before they arise plants to bare fruit. And if you even glanced shortly at anything I said, even while half-assed understanding it - seeds were sown. This you can take to the bank! |
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This is only if you use communication feature provided by NGD. Now tell me if the regnum comic is a communication feature od NGD? Just think before posting. I am fed up of your bad language, fed up about your senceless comments. btw, you are biased...if you were not you would have recognized that it was actually mainly me together with DM who turned it into a discussion about how to use skills and not about a discussion how to change spells or nerf hunters. When you would have read my post in the part of this discussion on the development board you would have recognized it, that it was me, who asked why we are talking about nerfing and whining and not about setups and "how to's" But hey, nice job...you killed these turn of the discussion towards gameplay by posting your lyrics full of swearwords and turned it in a thread about you again. Well done, you got what you wanted: attention. It was a pleasure for me to be your tool to get some attention again.
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