It's not a Conjurer's job to keep you alive

[Ertial]

Originally Posted by Truewar

Conjuerors gets a lot of XP in grinding party with no need to spent a lot of money on repairing items or buying arrows. They often need not even to move.

What are u talking about??? It is your ability. It is one of the BASIS powers in battle. So it is your job.

If I recall previous threads correctly conjurers don't get much XP from grinding in parties.

[n4gh4sh]

Originally Posted by Yest

If I recall previous threads correctly conjurers don't get much XP from grinding in parties.

Conjus get nice xp from grinding in a party only if they use SM + Zarkit + MC. Healing only when needed (lvl 15). It also make sense to use enchantments (esp Bless weapon) instead of zarkit for party grinding, but grinding solo with this setup (without zarkit) will be slower.

I agree that pure support conju without sensible dmg dealing get almost no xp in party grinding.

[octopus]

Originally Posted by n4gh4sh

Conjus get nice xp from grinding in a party only if they use SM + Zarkit + MC. Healing only when needed (lvl 15). It also make sense to use enchantments (esp Bless weapon) instead of zarkit for party grinding, but grinding solo with this setup (without zarkit) will be slower.

I agree that pure support conju without sensible dmg dealing get almost no xp in party grinding.

The trick I found is in the timing. For example, suppose your conjurer is partied with three other people. If you heal a friend before they hit the mob, you get no XP for that spell. If you heal your friend after the mob is dead, you get no XP for that spell. Your spell must affect the person during the fight. This can be very tricky when leveling with a barbarian who kills a mob in 1 or 2 hits.

Here's how I do it. First, use a summon when leveling. Double-click the mob so the summon will start attacking. This will get you some credit for damage dealing. Don't bother trying to do damage spells, just let your summon do that for you, as you concentrate on supporting your friends. Wait to use your heals until right after your friend hits the mob, so you get credit for that too. Always keep a regen going on someone, because that spell will continue to get you credit throughout the duration of the spell.

Keep mana communion going. Cast it the moment it comes out of cool-down. When it isn't running, or if you don't have this spell yet, give some of your mana to your friends. Also give Bless/Bless Weapon/+Dex/+Str/+Int buffs. But again, the critical factor for grinding is to cast these after your friend hits the mob, and before the mob dies.

If you have Greater Healing, alternate this spell with Mana Communion. That way you can have area buffs going about 75% of the time with just two spells. Easy XP. However, if I'm grinding in the warzone, I will often save Greater Healing for when we get jumped by enemies from another realm.

Not only will these strategies get you better XP, but you will be gaining experience in how to effectively fight other players in a group.

Oh, if you are from Syrtis or Ignis, ignore everything I said.

[n4gh4sh]

@octopus:
I think you're right in most of what you've written. Still I think grinding with SM + Zarkit is more effective. Let me point a few things:

For example, suppose your conjurer is partied with three other people.

I play on Horus. It's sometimes hard to find ppl for party grinding in high levels. It mostly depends on the time, especially in night time when I mostly play (after midnight GMT time).

This can be very tricky when leveling with a barbarian who kills a mob in 1 or 2 hits.

Party with 3 other ppl rarely have conju + 3 warriors . In party with mages and archers SM setup is the best. Beside, in such a party healing isn't necessary - mobs just don't have a chance to hit any1.

if I'm grinding in the warzone

On Horus party grinding in warzone is totally safe . Only solo grinders (sometimes me) can be afraid.

Oh, if you are from Syrtis or Ignis, ignore everything I said.

Hahaha. I'm from Ignis lol. Ignis isn't that bad as you think ;P. But really, I like your post.

[Twinkle1]

When i am fighting i do not exspect to be healed or resed all the time.
if i am healed or resed i concider it a bonus to me.
That said i am lucky enough to play along side of some of the best conj's in the game.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

if you're a conjurer grinding in a party you will only need to support depending on how big the party is and how effectively it plays, being a conjurer is a piece of cake mostly and the most rewarding since they get good grp xp and good chg as they can be a lot of levels lower than his grinding friends are and still get xp as the only class (if you don't count warlocks doing this for easy xp)

as for a conjurers job healing in war? It is his job, this is what the class was designed for, you'll always have to play the class for how it was designed, you can do this and still keep your own playing style if you want, if your playing style doesn't suit the class find another class to play, a conjurer is NOT a damage dealer.

It's like octopus said

And it's not a barbarian's job to hit enemies, or a warlock's job to use Terror, or an archer's job to fill the enemy with arrows. Of course, effective players will use their class abilities as effectively as possible, but they're all free to play ineffectively as possible too.

what wouldn't it look like if a barb was only casting onslaught and off with their heads for rp but staying behind the group already refusing to hit enemies because he says "It's not my job" or a warlock trying to be on half support half damage, or a knight focusing on damage and not defense at all, or a marksman running up close with a short bow every time, or a hunter in a fort war trying to be a marksman without tracking skills?

[Xarn]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

you'll always have to play the class for how it was designed

My time, my money, your needs? Sounds like a very, very bad deal. In fact, you don't have to care how I suppose to spend my free time.
Try advices. They are more welcome than forces.