Drop rate on level 50

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Lumi_Alsius

How do you know?

He doesn't, he's making it up . There isn't a % chance, it is just totally random, but usually i get at least 5 or so drops (both special and non special) per day.

Either way 60 mobs is not a lot.

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

There isn't a % chance, it is just totally random,

Made my day.... you have no idea about computers, haven't you ?

[thegordo]

Just made a post in suggestins about gems, listed that i killed over 1000 mobs lev 50+ 3 small gems and 2 items i got... so equated to a drop every 200 or so... pretty kaka if you ask me.. but there again you dont have to.. im telling ya !! lol

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by thegordo

Just made a post in suggestins about gems, listed that i killed over 1000 mobs lev 50+ 3 small gems and 2 items i got... so equated to a drop every 200 or so... pretty kaka if you ask me.. but there again you dont have to.. im telling ya !! lol

Two days ago, i was talking with a friend: our two 40ish characters only found 3 items in treasures since lvl1 .... i found 2 and he found 1. Before that, he didn't want to believe that treasures could contain items.... obviously, among these 3 items, none was worth anything. Treasures are rare, and items in treasures are rare... so if someone find an epic item in a treasure, we'll call it a major event in RO, a miracle !!

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Zas_

Made my day.... you have no idea about computers, haven't you ?

It appears to change each day, but i really can't think of a % value for it. Often, when grinding, i'll get a drop every 30 - 40 mobs killed, sometimes i don't get a drop after 200 mobs killed. So one day it could be a 5% chance, another it could be far less. A lot of the time when I'm grinding on my barb, i get around 8 - 10 drops every time I have to sell, but recently on my hunter I've gotten far less over the same amount of mobs killed.

Umm... it's primary school level math. Please, revise some or just google about randomness.

Ok, let's just put it this way. It's not always 1.5% chance. Besides, probability is taught in the first level of secondary school here

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

It appears to change each day, but i really can't think of a % value for it. Often, when grinding, i'll get a drop every 30 - 40 mobs killed, sometimes i don't get a drop after 200 mobs killed. So one day it could be a 5% chance, another it could be far less. A lot of the time when I'm grinding on my barb, i get around 8 - 10 drops every time I have to sell, but recently on my hunter I've gotten far less over the same amount of mobs killed.

Ok, let's just put it this way. It's not always 1.5% chance. Besides, probability is taught in the first level of secondary school here

Well, if the probability itself is random .... well, it's possible, that's NGD after all.

For example, each hour, pick a random number between 0 and 5, this is the base probability to get anything during that hour, divide it for items, magical and epic....
so yes, with bad luck, you can grind for hours getting no drop at all, and when lucky you can find few interesting items in few hours. If divider is 1000 for epic items ... at best 0.005% chance per hour to get an epic item, but it can be 0% for hours too.....

Just some stupid thoughts ....

[Arafails]

The only completely predictable probabilities are 0 and 1. You cannot convert a probability to a guaranteed event otherwise. The situations you describe do not require variable probability.
It just seems to happen far too often. But that's the problem with random. You never know.

[voyager_3]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Ok, let's just put it this way. It's not always 1.5% chance. Besides, probability is taught in the first level of secondary school here

Oh, well... a few words on basic of probability.
If probability of an event (eg. looting an item) is 1.5%, it doesn't mean that the event occurs every 66.667 independent tries (eg. every 67 mobs killed). For example there can happen series of 120 independent tries without occuring the event or series of 50 tries with two events. On average, ie. when number of tries goes to infinity, the event occurs every 66.667 tries. Note: please, don't mix up result of single try with an average result.

[Arafails]

Originally Posted by voyager_3

Oh, well... a few words on basic of probability.
If probability of an event (eg. looting an item) is 1.5%, it doesn't mean that the event occurs every 66.667 independent tries (eg. every 67 mobs killed). For example there can happen series of 120 independent tries without occuring the event or series of 50 tries with two events. On average, ie. when number of tries goes to infinity, the event occurs every 66.667 tries. Note: please, don't mix up result of single try with an average result.

No even that's not right. What you're talking about is average return, and is an observational result, not a function.

1.5% chance means that for a single event, it's 197/3 times more likely that another outcome will result. You can't quantify it to to "it will happen this many times per this many events," average or not.

[_dracus_]

Well, all I know is that you can loot very decent things on Ghosts/Sabertooth in Alsius.