Nerfing SM

[Pendalf]

ieti sometimes i doubt you can read.
AD several times underlined that he says NOT about mages, he says about warlocks!
Warlocks have no zarkits and healing. So WHY did you work so hard to discribe your conjurer's setup and grinding process? It seems to be offtopic. If you wanna show that you can grind w/o SM FASTER than with it, so it means that Mental and healing must be nerfed, those are overpowered not SM!
Again: if you say that SM is overpowered and after that you say that with Mental you grind faster than with SM, you contradict to yourself!

LOL.

[e30G]

Have you tried leveling a warlock to 45-50? It's not hard to level a warlock without SM at all.

[ieti]

Originally Posted by cisco2950

ieti sometimes i doubt you can read.
AD several times underlined that he says NOT about mages, he says about warlocks!
Warlocks have no zarkits and healing. So WHY did you work so hard to discribe your conjurer's setup and grinding process? It seems to be offtopic. If you wanna show that you can grind w/o SM FASTER than with it, so it means that Mental and healing must be nerfed, those are overpowered not SM!
Again: if you say that SM is overpowered and after that you say that with Mental you grind faster than with SM, you contradict to yourself!

LOL.

Showing that Mental is faster do not means you can ABUSE it in WAR and make infinite kills like you can do with SM. Mental spells have MANA COST and COOLDOWNS like all normal spells. Trying to use all mental spells at once to bomb the target will lead you to mana problems like it happens to other classes - marks, barbs, hunters, knights.

Barbs, Marks can kill mob faster than mage but will need to stop for mana. The point was to kill fast and to maintain mana. This can be done with mental.

And warlocks have other spells that can be combined with mental too. On my level 19 lock i can kill mob with Meteor and Picking Ivy OR Meteor and Arcane Missle. Blaze again too. No Healing please --> Vampirism, Soul Keeper.... Again Ambigous Sacrifice, Energy Borrow.

SM is tree that is common for mages so pointing warlocks only is not right.

[ncvr]

Warlocks have vamp, sk and vitality absorption. With vitality absorption and a good staff with sm, they can regenerate health at the rate of lvl 5 regen ally. Both classes are overpowered with sm.

[Punti_X]

Only thing that I can add to this discussion is that maybe I should check SM setup in WZ Maybe I will find it owerpowered, too , long range staff looks interesting to test on enemies.

[Pendalf]

Originally Posted by e30ernest

Have you tried leveling a warlock to 45-50? It's not hard to level a warlock without SM at all.

If read your posts from logical point of view, it will be clear: you contradict to youself.

AD says: dont nerf SM because it will make warlock's grind painfully hard.
You answers: SM must be nerfed because other spells allows to grind easy.

Are you blondies and use s.c. "women logic"? If so then no problem because women logic has a right to live too.

Someone says: SM must be nerfed because it makes grinding simple, but other classes cannot grind so fast?
Yes, I see imbalance. But more logical is to suggest making grinding of other classes more easy?

Personally me after last updates lost interest to this game and actually dont care at all whether SM will be nerfed or not. But reading your dispute here is really fun, like a dispute between blind and deaf.

[e30G]

Let me simplify things for you Pendalf:

AWD says SM is needed to keep warlocks from leveling insanely slow.

I said SM is not needed to level since even without it, locks level fast.

I am asking SM to be nerfed because it deals too much DPS. In addition to that, staff normals shouldn't be a mage's primary weapon.

Where is the contradiction in that?

And Pendalf, your posts are even funnier to read, because you apparently can not comprehend the ideas pointed here. Perhaps the discussion was above your comprehension level. I hope I simplified things enough for you.

[ieti]

The only reason SM must be nerfed is because it is overpowered in war. As many said and showed it gives constant high ranged damage that even marks can't beat, it have low mana consumption and cost, it have high buff usage time etc. etc. etc.

Nouone says nothing against SM to be used for grind. Sad is that it is used in war to make of mages machine gun shooters.

[Pendalf]

Galynn, thank you for simplifying. =) My posts are funny due to 2 reasons: 1) I never write them 100% seriuos 2) I know english not even 50% good. =)
You always helped me to play RO and your advices was very helpful for me. Can you advice me one good grind setup for lock lvl43 w/o SM? If you write several words about grind tactic for using this build I will be very grateful. =)

[e30G]

Go to http://www.cwassall.co.uk/regnum/trainer/.

I posted one for you. If you cycle your spells (all of it) and kite correctly you can kill non-stop. Range is your friend.