Horus realm chat

[e30G]

Originally Posted by Malik2

1. No realm chat in WZ will reduce syrtis zergs? The opposite will happen. Five dudes will take a fort and the whole realm will rush there. Get ready for that.

This has always been the case. With or without realm chat, people will always go to where the action is. However, without realm chat, you'll see smaller numbers of initial attackers. We see it now, and fights have been pretty awesome the past 2 nights for me.

Originally Posted by Malik2

2. After a few weeks people stopped whining about no realm chat on Ra: After a few weeks the people who could not stand it anymore left the game, look at the forum archives where were plenty.

These people left for their reasons, I do not think realm chat was a huge part of it. Remember there were a lot of even more negative changes to the game.

Originally Posted by Malik2

3. Realm chat was full of BS. Last time I checked so is general chat and clan chat. I don't get why, if people are not discussing what some people want on realm, it is omehow a deterrant to the game.

Not all clans have BS in their chats. And if you pick your group well, you won't get that BS in general chat either.

Originally Posted by Malik2

4. For people who complain about realm chat I can't figure out what you were doing in it, as if were required viewing...no!...must look at realm chat....AHHHHH! it burns my eyes!

It's not only about viewing it. Realm chat was making the warzone too easy and too small. There was no inherent danger in venturing out to the warzone since you can always call for an ally wherever you are. Gathering zergs was easy too. Now it takes a little more coordination, skill and good networking among players.

[veluchami]

This is a very significant change that will make a substantial shift in game dynamics. I am not really for or against realm chat right now. I used to be a big advocate for retaining realm chat. But now I would like to wait and see. Let me try to make a objective analysis of the situation.

When Horus didnt have a realm chat, the population growth was so much slower because of the huge attrition. The quality of players IMO was higher as a result. The zerg problem was at its worst. And the smaller realm's (Ignis) only defence was superior coordination. When we got the realm chat, we coordinated and overcame the zerg.

But as Ignis grew bigger, we weren't the tight knit community which we once were. We didnt fight for one goal. We are currently at the point where we as a server and a realm are not big enough to zerg other realms(like RA) and we are not small enough to use superior communication to win battles, and pull off astounding tactical victories like we used to (which I have been missing for quite a while now). So I cant really say that Realm chat is helping win battles. But will the removal be detrimental? I have no clue, following few weeks should tell us more. But NGD should be flexible on this matter, they should revert back if more people dont like it.

But I can predict a few things.

1) More fun playing in bigger, stronger clans. The days of 1 man clans are over IMO (maybe not in Syrtis).
2) Zerging is gonna become even worse. Beware !
3) Hunters are going to have a party and leveling is gonna be a pain in the ass.
4) I predict a drop in server growth and revenue for NGD.
5) Higher overall quality of players. Only hard core players will make it.
6) The already tipped scale tips even more in favour of players having access to mumble.
7) Ori and Dannboy are gonna quit ! Havent found anyone who loves RC more than them
8) Invasions will become more scarce

Some suggestions for smaller realms.
1) Your clan is sacred. Communication in clan is so much important
2) If it were up to me, I would add all the level 45+ in a realm to one clan
3) Help your clannie if he is being farmed while grinding, because noone else can. This should be your number one priority now. Make that trip from Herb to Ignis orc camp if you have to

NGD How about increasing party size to 16?

Anyway have fun evolving and experimenting with new tactics.

[Raideniza]

Originally Posted by bigjim

Some people will never understand that though

What's up Refe?

[Punti_X]

As far as I can see, last 2 days in prime time, battles are BIG and GOOD! I miss realm chat only when grinding in WZ, but, let it be so.
I don't regret because it seems that we have more fun.
No empty speaches, trolls and sh.t like that, just fight.
Much better than before.

[doppelapfel]

Originally Posted by veluchami

NGD How about increasing party size to 16?

Good idea. +1

[derkrieger92]

I also agree with increased party size, +1

[Minorian]

I don't understand the narrowmindedness, if you really hate realm chat DON'T LOOK AT IT YOU DUMBA$$#$. Instead of getting rid of a feature many enjoy, why not IGNORE IT AND LET THE OTHER PEOPLE ENJOY THEMSELVES.

[derkrieger92]

Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

I don't understand the narrowmindedness, if you really hate realm chat DON'T LOOK AT IT YOU DUMBA$$#$. Instead of getting rid of a feature many enjoy, why not IGNORE IT AND LET THE OTHER PEOPLE ENJOY THEMSELVES.

The feature isn't gone, if you wanna chat in your realm go into your realm it still exist there. In the warzone it is gone thus making it less like msnmessanger or facebook and more like a pvp game. We didn't mind the chat itself, only the affects it had on our PvP. So if all you wanna do is chat then stay in inner realm. If you wanna PvP instead go into the warzone.

[Dannboy]

Originally Posted by veluchami

2) Zerging is gonna become even worse. Beware !

7) Ori and Dannboy are gonna quit ! Havent found anyone who loves RC more than them

Zergs + General chat = Walking Realm chat ;D
You will just see my spam in war from now on, and even harder to ignore >: )
Im not sure if you were there last time, but when I went with Ignis to take Aggers we had quite a conversation. ^^

Oh right.
+1 for the increased number(And for noticing me, of course \o/).
I would also want to see some improvement on how fast the party system reacts to hp/mp regen/fall on party members.

Edit:
Sorry, but 'Cannot give reputation to velchuami again humpty dumpty' -.-

[Arafails]

Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

I don't understand the narrowmindedness, if you really hate realm chat DON'T LOOK AT IT YOU DUMBA$$#$. Instead of getting rid of a feature many enjoy, why not IGNORE IT AND LET THE OTHER PEOPLE ENJOY THEMSELVES.

I would constantly go into realm chat to see if a noob needed help. What I said on realm chat most commonly consisted of helping them, because that's the kind of person I am. If no alternative was available, trash talk and mindless jabber would happen. Very occasionally, I would ask "Anyone for war?" or "Where is the war," or even "Anyone want a Barbarian to hunt with?" but for all three questions I would normally have 5-10 minutes of nothing, by which time I'd found a group of Syrtis and blood had been thrown around (sometimes theirs, more often mine). More often than not, I'd see spam or emo-bs-chat. The prime high-level game related thing you'd see on there would be someone typing in

/me TENAX TIIIIIIIIIIIME!
/me TIME FOR TENAX!
/me OMFG TENAX IS ALIVE! LET'S KILL TENAX!!!!

and at this point you'd see about two dozen level 50's that could've been, I don't know, invading syrtis with you or some shit, the warzone would go to hell because everyone left, and when Tenax was dead, they might do Daen Rha, or they might all just log off again. It made me want to reach through the internet and strangle someone.

The prime argument I see against removing realm chat appears to be that it'll force people playing the game to – wait for it – PLAY THE FREAKIN' GAME.

I have to disagree with veluchami about the Ignis war machine back before realm chat was introduced into the warzone for Horus (in the beginning, we had no wz realm chat...). It was a thing of beauty. We were coordinated, thanks to people like, yes, Efrendi, Nightshroud, Wyatt, even Hathor for as much as people seem to dislike him. We knew how to coordinate, we fought wars, stuff happened. We got along.
The first thing that happened when realm chat was introduced the the war zone? Fracturing. The clans started to shit-talk each other. Close to my heart is the huge divide that was wedged beween IGI and the Ghosts. It crippled the beautiful war machine. We still haven't quite recovered, and it's been way too long.

And what's amusing? A lot of people who jumped on the "OMG SPIES IN REALM CHAT" band-wagon seem to also have jumped on the "OMG REALM CHAT IS GONE I AM ANGRY" bandwagon.

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