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Old 06-23-2008, 10:45 AM   #11
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Don't tell me 10% attack speed can be comparable to some silly damage increase for warriors.

Now I use lvl 4 tfb and slow mace with 4% attack speed (total of 16% speed), the speed effect is so damn great!!!

I can see how it matter less for mages and archer that both great speed boosts that dont wear out after 5 hits :/

I can imagine how cool it is for you to have a lvl 3 tfb always active :/:/:/
Not realizing how lucky you are, that makes you all dumb!
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:18 AM   #12
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Not realizing how lucky you are, that makes you all dumb!
Lol, my conj while leveling has 39% staff speed boost, as a staff mastery user, it really matters :]

On others words i hit faster than a medium staff with a slow staff
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:30 AM   #13
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You are not like other elves!
Of course 10% matters for everyone, and indeed it not completely without damage effect either.
I was just pointing out that mages and archers have good spell that counter it to some extent.

I dont see SM users as mages, some of them are 'cheaters' according to Feanor.
Tried fighting a lvl 50 SM warlock with my lvl 34 hunter... it ended badly, already too late when i realized it was not a normal warlock which i could have had fun fighting
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:33 AM   #14
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I use 16% attack speed too, I dont see any difference really, (so if I had 2 lightning rings)

I kind of calculated it with Zord that 25% would be a different speed.
VSlow Weapon w +25% speed = Slow Weapon.

Would only be nice imo w/ a medium speed weapon.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:37 AM   #15
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A) Lightning Rings are like gold dust - Everyone wants them, few have spare. Often in realm chat you see "COMPRO ANILLO DE RAYOS 600K" etc. etc.

B) Would you rather have +10% attack speed or an extra 160 / (310 with amulet) hp?

I'd gladly give up my lightning rungs and +70 hp amulet for Syrtis' or Alsius' rings / amulets.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:41 AM   #16
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I dont see SM users as mages, some of them are 'cheaters' according to Feanor.
Not cheat, but it hits pretty hard if you're a conj with zarkit... nice powerleveling !

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Tried fighting a lvl 50 SM warlock with my lvl 34 hunter... it ended badly, already too late when i realized it was not a normal warlock which i could have had fun fighting
In fact, the weak point are magnifications, because they're visible (unless they cheat by changing staff). Usually if you camou waiting for the magnis coming down and then you rush, it's fun

Without the magnis, a SM warlock is done
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:50 AM   #17
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I use 16% attack speed too, I dont see any difference really, (so if I had 2 lightning rings)

I kind of calculated it with Zord that 25% would be a different speed.
VSlow Weapon w +25% speed = Slow Weapon.

Would only be nice imo w/ a medium speed weapon.
I hear people say 15% is enough to jump up a full speed level
I will look around if it been confirmed by someone, that unlike us matters

surely 10% would be enough to make two hits during a lvl 3 feint for example,
this you cant normaly achieve with a very slow weapond

Comment to A) Make an alt decide who will benefit the most from them!

Answer to B) hell yes, i dont use any hp increase other than random constitution on some armour piece.

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Old 06-23-2008, 11:57 AM   #18
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In fact, the weak point are magnifications, because they're visible (unless they cheat by changing staff). Usually if you camou waiting for the magnis coming down and then you rush, it's fun

Without the magnis, a SM warlock is done
I been forced turn down my graphics, so maybe they dont show anymore :/
Might have to do some adjustment there.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:59 AM   #19
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A) Lightning Rings are like gold dust - Everyone wants them, few have spare. Often in realm chat you see "COMPRO ANILLO DE RAYOS 600K" etc. etc.

B) Would you rather have +10% attack speed or an extra 160 / (310 with amulet) hp?

I'd gladly give up my lightning rungs and +70 hp amulet for Syrtis' or Alsius' rings / amulets.
I would gladly give up my 2x +80 Health rings for 2x Lightning Rings...

I have +16% weapon speed with +4% on my weapon and tfb lvl 4 ( 12% ), and the difference is big.
People that fights against me use to ask me if I am using a medium weapon.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:11 PM   #20
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I really don't see how you guys see such a big difference with these small +% attack speed bonuses. I've been testing from base to a full +20% passive bonus and then all the way to a +95% bonus with a fast bow, and +70% with a slow bow.

As your attack speed is not even as it increases the advantage is very hit and miss. I'll be testing again once I can get a +25% passive bonus.
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