Why does everyone hates hunters?

[fluffy_muffin]

:] All hunters to inner realm we can go for a drop-quest-beer searching in inner realm for 3 days. Let's see how wz will deal with that.

In a matter a fact i have more sympathy for most of my enemies, victims, than for many syrtians. Eh. It is a time to lvl my marks.

[Smiley2k7]

Seems like a lot of hunter haters lol ^^

[Myxir]

I hate "I hate $class threads".
Hunters are hated for the game style they are forced to play... LOL
I did not test the new update yet but from what I tested much earlier before on Amun I would say that, regarding to 1on1 hunts only, Hunters are the most powerful classes now, as there are several skill combos that make you almost invincible... You simply can evade every hard situation with the right skills and a bit luck. But there are simple methods, too to prevent a hunter from this.
Hunters can escape now nearly everytime but they are not dead. But this should give you a satisfaction of having him defeated anyway.
I hate hunters too, but that's why I love this class.

In my opinion Solarus wrote the best post in this whole topic.

[Ertial]

This isn't a "I hate $class" topic. I just was curious why so many hate hunters.

[aric_swartzell]

Solaris speaks the truth.

[Znurre]

Wudy, a class and a player is two different things.
I know I haven't always been to discrete about my feelings about the hunter class in general, like yesterday at save. I am sorry for that.

But, there are differences between one hunter and another.
No human is the same, and thus two players canno't be that either.

When someone blames hunters in general, think of it, does it really apply to you ? I think you and Comp are great players, you play fair and you use tactics and you know that. But not everyone do this.

I can understand hunters running if a group of 3+ people are comming to gank one of them, I would run then too, but, hunters who have to run in a 1on1 fight just because they have 100 hp, can't stand that. Are they so afraid of dying ?

That's what make me so fed up of hunters, that most, and I repeat, most, can't take a fight. They always run in the end.

You are not one of those Wudy.
I've played a lot with you and I've seen you and Comp in action.
You fight til you die, and bring many other enemies with you in the fall.

Also, to share a little memory with you, I once got saved by a hunter when I was escaping from a group of Syrtis. She ran into them, with all her evasion spells, making them attack her instead, and she managed to escape with me.

Also, I've had a lot of fun making up traps with stalkers etc.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

pff... there's a lot to be said about this topic. the Hunter IS overpowered, the hunter class... and hunters being masters of tactics... I disagree. Everyone can make an overpowered evasion setup and run away if they are about to die.
the evasion tree is overpowered and their passive speed doesn't make it better.

And don't give me the bullshit about "oh but you hit so hard with the offensive classes" it's a dull argument when the hit/spell is evaded.

I don't hate hunters though, I just don't like the imbalance of the class and some people who play it. I don't like the luck game either when you meet a hunter in a one on one. He comes to attack you. If he's about to die (because I'm lucky) he runs away, if he's the one lucky I'm going to die and can do nothing about it because he can run away

[bgoodwyn]

Originally Posted by valterbla

woaaaaaa wait a sec, You know how many Onslaught is? It's 400 in lvl 5. Do you know how much mana is Sprint? It's 150 (lvl 5), In the end, It's Half mana out of the Barbarian. Don't say stuff that you aren't sure of it.

Uhhhh....ok. It costs me half of my mana to catch the hunter. I guess I am a glass is half full type of guy. Yes, occasionally I have caught the hunter and run out of mana before finishing the job, but sometimes it is enough. I have danced on the grave of more than one level 50 hunter from 1v1 battle, so I am sure of it.

Of course, more hunters have killed me than I have killed, but I am not whining...I just suck at this game.

[Myxir]

Originally Posted by valterbla

woaaaaaa wait a sec, You know how many Onslaught is? It's 400 in lvl 5. Do you know how much mana is Sprint? It's 150 (lvl 5), In the end, It's Half mana out of the Barbarian. Don't say stuff that you aren't sure of it.

Wait. The mana argument does not count here. The hunter cannot escape a barbarian without using mana. Our mobility is even more expensive. And to escape we also need Camouflage only with the speed that's not possible. The new onslaught kicks ass.
So the mana amount is nearly the same.

[fluffy_muffin]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

and hunters being masters of tactics... I disagree. Everyone can make an overpowered evasion setup and run away if they are about to die.
the evasion tree is overpowered and their passive speed doesn't make it better.

You have no idea how it is to play a hunter. I am pt. But if will not think twice i will die. Ana about evasion . I will post every damn screenshot rom 1on1 with warlock. But i am sure that some warlocks will ignore it and still will say how hard it is to fight wit hunter. You know what? Today some 4x warlock attacked me while i was grinding. I have killed him but the only evaded spell was meteor and it was when i had no buffs.
When i see warlock whining about how hard it is with hunter i want quit this damn game. Learn how to play your damn class.

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

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He comes to attack you. If he's about to die (because I'm lucky) he runs away, if he's the one lucky I'm going to die and can do nothing about it because he can run away

In a matter a fact i can run away from you with my marks, and with my 13lv barb.