New Balance Update: Hits/Criticals/Evasion (Stage 6)

[chilko]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

What about Spell Focus/Spell Resistance? Are those adjusted the same way the Hit Chance/Evasion system has been adjusted? Will we be able to see them in our character window?

Nope, different systems. Spell power and spell resistance will be dealt with after this balance update.

[chilko]

Originally Posted by bigjim

I agree....

The spell is actually making marksmen worse!!

guys... it's a first iteration. Note taken about this spell... please let's talk about something else

[Gabburtjuh]

what other besides death sentance to hunters(nice move) and the question, does this affect pet dmg, that would be bad.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by chilko

please let's talk about something else

first of all, spelling corrections in red. :P

second of all, how about a way for onslaught to actually be useful to the barbarians. my idea made onslaught useful without allowing a lone barbarian to stack spring AND onslaught.

if you dont want that kind of stacking to be possible AT ALL, modify the spell to not allow you to cast any other speed buffs for the duration of the spell.

but PLEASE, don't make onslaught a spell that a barbarian casts on the group, then the group just takes off without him, that seems counter-productive from the barbarian's point of view. think about a real-life barbarian. they were not much for being team players, they wanted blood, so they rushed in group or no group. so what sense would it make to have a barbarian get everyone pumped for a rush just let the group go ahead?

[TheMessenger]

Originally Posted by chilko

guys... it's a first iteration. Note taken about this spell... please let's tak about something else

ight

Did you adjust mob armour/defense/health already?

[Klutu]

Originally Posted by Hamster_of_sorrow

first of all, spelling corrections in red. :P

second of all, how about a way for onslaught to actually be useful to the barbarians. my idea made onslaught useful without allowing a lone barbarian to stack spring AND onslaught.

if you dont want that kind of stacking to be possible AT ALL, modify the spell to not allow you to cast any other speed buffs for the duration of the spell.

but PLEASE, don't make onslaught a spell that a barbarian casts on the group, then the group just takes off without him, that seems counter-productive from the barbarian's point of view.

it's not the issue of stacking.. Spring + Ons

The issue is a Barb could have 24 seconds of constant speed boost - Spring alone is all a barb needs now that they lowered the cooldown it allows us quick boosts of speed for engaging the enemy.

giving a barb Spring + Ons bonus in the current state would just cause a hole new imbalance

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by Klutu

it's not the issue of stacking.. Spring + Ons

The issue is a Barb could have 24 seconds of constant speed boost - Spring alone is all a barb needs now that they lowered the cooldown it allows us quick boosts of speed for engaging the enemy.

giving a barb Spring + Ons bonus in the current state would just cause a hole new imbalance

so just rely on a different barb to give you ons, just taking it away from the caster will not solve that problem. there is more than one barbarian, you know :P

you are going to have this issue with every class that has a speed buff, so every class but mages.

[Bardar]

Make it so that the effect of spring and the effect of onslaught cannot stack.

Not only does this solve the problem of giving barbarians a huge amount of speed, but it also allows them to use onslaught and run with the group and also encourages tactical usage of spring. The highest speed increase % would of course take priority.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by Bardar

Make it so that the effect of spring and the effect of onslaught cannot stack.

Not only does this solve the problem of giving barbarians a huge amount of speed, but it also allows them to use onslaught and run with the group and also encourages tactical usage of spring. The highest speed increase % would of course take priority.

as klutu pointed out, its not an issue of spring+ons, it is spring THEN ons. so that would solve the problem (which in my opinion, is unsolvable unless you take the speed bonus off onslaught, which would make the spell useless)

EDIT: on second thought, if you made a period after onslaught where no speed buffs could be casted (like a dizzy for speed buffs), that would make short work of the issue.

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by chilko

guys... it's a first iteration. Note taken about this spell... please let's tak about something else

Was just meant as exactly this, to point it out

Is there any chance a marks gets some sort of mana regeneration tool?

Id say thats currently the biggest drawback for marks, being manastarved so much. You can barely play in a way to save mana and regenerate a bit as you not only lose mana by buffs and spells but even normal hits drain you heavily, especially with longer fights and increased attack speed.