To the Mods/Game Devs: Re: Increasing Server Pop

Telwe · 04-18-2015, 09:58 AM

With respect, out of all the issues the game has, Haven's server population is the most important and urgent.

I think its more important even than RNG update.

My suggestion at this stage is to dramatically lower the grind time. I would even suggest giving new players free lvl 55 or 50 via STEAM. Make it a new release thing only available for HAVEN server. Advertise on DAOC forums. Be creative. You guys owe it to us to try.

I understand your hesitation to take such a course of action because of:
a) abuse from multis
b) loss of revenue from scroll boosting.

re a). Yes we might see some multying swing.... but at this stage it is a bullet we might have to take. Call it a necessary evil. Maybe give syrtis/ignis some sort of additional boost that might sway some people to their side. Multis already exist anyways so whats the danger? I think people overestimate how many multis there are and underestimate the number of people loyal to their realms. I can think of many people in all three realms who I know wouldn't change because they have established clans/friends. Plus they would lose their gear and so on.

b) I think you guys would actually make money in the long run. If people get hooked on the combat, after a while they will try to make themselves stronger and look to their level and gear. After doing 1% of of lvl 55-56 without previous grind experience they'll want to shoot themselves, and this might convince them to buy boosters. Give them a free 7 day mount or something as well. Thats also stuff people have to buy. There is also the issue of current players withholding xim purchases because we are unsure on the future of the server (for example I still have a white tunic but am unwilling to spend money on boxes at this stage).

But seriously I can't stress how important it is to close the gap of time required between making a new character and experiencing wars. I think people would quit just walking from newb starting position to warzone. Heck I'd get the Game Helpers or whatever they're called to idle at character spawn points and try chatting up newbs, give them the basics they need and even teleport them where they need to go.

What do companies do to attract new customers? They give away free stuff and samples. This situation is no different. You can't expect a complete new player to drop $45 or whatever on a pack for a game they know nothing about (and that has poor reviews).

Please, consider radical action. Remember the higher the population the more people there are to buy xim. Also I thank you guys for the general activity in trying to improve things (the roadmap). Many games I've played have no updates, no support and no communication between players and developers.

Daith
(gankforce)

time-to-die · 04-18-2015, 10:12 AM

I think they should promote their game more.

Sentan · 04-18-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by time-to-die

I think they should promote their game more.

Yeah. Another expansion like warmasters or champions.

time-to-die · 04-18-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentan

Yeah. Another expansion like warmasters or champions.

Haha you know what i mean :P

MDpro · 04-18-2015, 03:57 PM

Haven is dying mostly because of multis, and everyone jumping on the Ra bandwagon. I don't understand it either, we finally merge with another server... and NOW everyone decides to give up on Haven.

time-to-die · 04-18-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MDpro

Haven is dying mostly because of multis, and everyone jumping on the Ra bandwagon. I don't understand it either, we finally merge with another server... and NOW everyone decides to give up on Haven.

Please look down at your signature

Sentan · 04-18-2015, 05:20 PM

Give me 10 dragon amulets so I will bring some players back. Everyone needs motivation.

MDpro · 04-18-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by time-to-die

Please look down at your signature

Ra and Haven have nothing to do with each other, two different servers... So that's not multi-realming. I play in one realm in each server, and I barely play in Ra. Many players play in a different realm when they change servers.

Edit- Also, I started playing in Ra again occasionally just under a year ago, wayy before Haven players started flooding to Ra.

I think we all can agree with you on this though...

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Originally Posted by time-to-die

I think they should promote their game more.

Iheartpancakes · 04-18-2015, 05:52 PM

There's some amazing CoR videos on youtube. I'd update the media page with some of these. There's some really motivational ones out there that show how awesome the combat can be. The website itself looks like it was built with Frontpage back in the early nineties (No offence, but really.. it's shit compared to today's standards). I was expecting to see marquee text scrolling across the page, and animated gifs of cats. Please consider revamping it at some point.
The Realm Guard pack on Steam is amazingly great value. I'd market this more on the website, to show people they don't need to grind from 1-45 if they don't want to, and you get some good shit out of it, including permanent mount, and ximerin to purchase premium armour/weapons, boosts or customisations.

Yes, fixing the grinding situation would be beneficial too. I was grinding for 5 minutes today and logged off. Just can't hack it any more

Fortunately I'm level 51, so it's ok to war in order to break the monotony of killing mob after mob slowly with resists, but you don't really get that leisure early on.

Best,

Ludwig Von Mises · 04-19-2015, 06:01 AM

I think NGD should murg all the servers as one, or atleast RA with Haven. :]

Language is no excuse to not murg. People know what to do in this game. Language is no barrier. And if someone from another language needs help its not hard to find help because players from many languages would be in that same server to help. Further, most or a large number of people who play the game speak more then one language, whether it be dutch and english, english and spanish. You see?

Lets say this dud only speaks english and he wants to know what this spanish dud means, i can say hey i know because i speak spanish and english. Or a german who speaks only german wants to know what this spanish is saying. Someone who speaks german and english can ask someone who speaks english and spanish to help out. Because in the german server and in Ra and Haven there are people who speak more then one language. :]

04-18-2015, 09:58 AM	#1
Telwe Initiate Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 103	To the Mods/Game Devs: Re: Increasing Server Pop With respect, out of all the issues the game has, Haven's server population is the most important and urgent. I think its more important even than RNG update. My suggestion at this stage is to dramatically lower the grind time. I would even suggest giving new players free lvl 55 or 50 via STEAM. Make it a new release thing only available for HAVEN server. Advertise on DAOC forums. Be creative. You guys owe it to us to try. I understand your hesitation to take such a course of action because of: a) abuse from multis b) loss of revenue from scroll boosting. re a). Yes we might see some multying swing.... but at this stage it is a bullet we might have to take. Call it a necessary evil. Maybe give syrtis/ignis some sort of additional boost that might sway some people to their side. Multis already exist anyways so whats the danger? I think people overestimate how many multis there are and underestimate the number of people loyal to their realms. I can think of many people in all three realms who I know wouldn't change because they have established clans/friends. Plus they would lose their gear and so on. b) I think you guys would actually make money in the long run. If people get hooked on the combat, after a while they will try to make themselves stronger and look to their level and gear. After doing 1% of of lvl 55-56 without previous grind experience they'll want to shoot themselves, and this might convince them to buy boosters. Give them a free 7 day mount or something as well. Thats also stuff people have to buy. There is also the issue of current players withholding xim purchases because we are unsure on the future of the server (for example I still have a white tunic but am unwilling to spend money on boxes at this stage). But seriously I can't stress how important it is to close the gap of time required between making a new character and experiencing wars. I think people would quit just walking from newb starting position to warzone. Heck I'd get the Game Helpers or whatever they're called to idle at character spawn points and try chatting up newbs, give them the basics they need and even teleport them where they need to go. What do companies do to attract new customers? They give away free stuff and samples. This situation is no different. You can't expect a complete new player to drop $45 or whatever on a pack for a game they know nothing about (and that has poor reviews). Please, consider radical action. Remember the higher the population the more people there are to buy xim. Also I thank you guys for the general activity in trying to improve things (the roadmap). Many games I've played have no updates, no support and no communication between players and developers. Daith (gankforce)

04-18-2015, 03:57 PM	#5
MDpro Initiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Posts: 227	Haven is dying mostly because of multis, and everyone jumping on the Ra bandwagon. I don't understand it either, we finally merge with another server... and NOW everyone decides to give up on Haven. __________________ Alsius or nothing

04-18-2015, 05:20 PM	#7
Sentan Master Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 472	Give me 10 dragon amulets so I will bring some players back. Everyone needs motivation. __________________ "There was a time above... a time before. There were perfect things... diamond absolutes. How things fall... and what falls... is fallen." CoR Soundtrack \| SUGGESTIONS: Outdated spells \| 2h weapons \| Other suggestions Siwy

04-18-2015, 10:12 AM	#2
time-to-die Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The netherlands Posts: 722	I think they should promote their game more.

04-18-2015, 05:52 PM	#9
Iheartpancakes Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 273	There's some amazing CoR videos on youtube. I'd update the media page with some of these. There's some really motivational ones out there that show how awesome the combat can be. The website itself looks like it was built with Frontpage back in the early nineties (No offence, but really.. it's shit compared to today's standards). I was expecting to see marquee text scrolling across the page, and animated gifs of cats. Please consider revamping it at some point. The Realm Guard pack on Steam is amazingly great value. I'd market this more on the website, to show people they don't need to grind from 1-45 if they don't want to, and you get some good shit out of it, including permanent mount, and ximerin to purchase premium armour/weapons, boosts or customisations. Yes, fixing the grinding situation would be beneficial too. I was grinding for 5 minutes today and logged off. Just can't hack it any more Fortunately I'm level 51, so it's ok to war in order to break the monotony of killing mob after mob slowly with resists, but you don't really get that leisure early on. Best,

04-19-2015, 06:01 AM	#10
Ludwig Von Mises Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 111	I think NGD should murg all the servers as one, or atleast RA with Haven. :] Language is no excuse to not murg. People know what to do in this game. Language is no barrier. And if someone from another language needs help its not hard to find help because players from many languages would be in that same server to help. Further, most or a large number of people who play the game speak more then one language, whether it be dutch and english, english and spanish. You see? Lets say this dud only speaks english and he wants to know what this spanish dud means, i can say hey i know because i speak spanish and english. Or a german who speaks only german wants to know what this spanish is saying. Someone who speaks german and english can ask someone who speaks english and spanish to help out. Because in the german server and in Ra and Haven there are people who speak more then one language. :]