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Old 09-05-2008, 05:14 AM   #1
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Barbarians- One of the most overpowerd class, but no-one admits it. Someone that does over 500+ normal damage, is certainly overpowered. Plus, they have a spell, thats rarely blocked, that does over 1k damage, sometimes 2k. PLUS, they can catch ANY class no matter what the %$#! you do.

Hunters- Oh, my goodness. SOTW: the most overpowered spell in the game. When a hunter has 1% health left....SOTW. Every time!! Plus, Knights can't get to them cause they back pedal so much!! Plus their NORMAL evades, outrageous!!

Knights- Fix this damn class. Its suppose to be tanks. Not slow poke that does 100 damage when their opponent is doing over 300!!! Even though we have "high defense", If I have 1,000+ armor points, I expect my opponent to hit me around 50's or at the very most, 100s, but no, 250s...300s...WOW!! So this is ridiculous as well!!

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Old 09-05-2008, 07:18 AM   #2
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Everybody admits barbarians are overpowered.
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:22 AM   #3
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Everybody admits barbarians are overpowered.
I don't Some spells need some fix, some need changes. But imo they are not overpowered.
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:54 AM   #4
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Hunters- Oh, my goodness. SOTW: the most overpowered spell in the game. When a hunter has 1% health left....SOTW. Every time!! Plus, Knights can't get to them cause they back pedal so much!! Plus their NORMAL evades, outrageous!!
The amount of times i see this error is incredible.

Why do people always complain about hunters and sotw, as tho no other class has it?

Yes hunters are annoying; they are meant to be.

But they are not the only ones using sotw...
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #5
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Barbarians- One of the most overpowerd class, but no-one admits it. Someone that does over 500+ normal damage, is certainly overpowered. Plus, they have a spell, thats rarely blocked, that does over 1k damage, sometimes 2k. PLUS, they can catch ANY class no matter what the %$#! you do.
Have you ever actually played a Barbarian in war and seen how fast they die? Death is the only outcome a Barbarian can rely upon. Furthermore, to make those massive South Cross and Ripost hits they must use a spell called "Berserk" that makes you lose all of your armor and evade chances.

If you think having such bad defense on a Knight is so unbearable, try unequipping all of your armor sometime, including your shield, then run around naked in a fort war. That's what a Barbarian feels like when he has to make those huge damages, for example when rushing to cast area spells, or to kill a Conjuror...

The best we can do is try to kill someone before we go. At least sometimes we can accomplish that.

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Hunters- Oh, my goodness. SOTW: the most overpowered spell in the game. When a hunter has 1% health left....SOTW. Every time!! Plus, Knights can't get to them cause they back pedal so much!! Plus their NORMAL evades, outrageous!!
It's called using your skills properly.

Hunters have trained themselves to wait until the most critical point in the battle to use spells such as Son of the wind or Low profile. It's not because the spell is overpowered - it just as easily fails or is wasted in other situations. It's that the Hunter chose the most advantageous time to use it.

That's playing tactical. Don't get mad just because the enemy was smarter than you.

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Knights- Fix this damn class. Its suppose to be tanks. Not slow poke that does 100 damage when their opponent is doing over 300!!! Even though we have "high defense", If I have 1,000+ armor points, I expect my opponent to hit me around 50's or at the very most, 100s, but no, 250s...300s...WOW!! So this is ridiculous as well!!
Well, nearly all classes have around 1K of armor with a defensive spell, not just Knights. The only advantages defense-wise Knights have over other classes is +25% armor from the shield and blocks, which is what you're supposed to rely upon (by NGD's very own design).

The only ones who can get hit for a measly 50 damage are Marksmen with their two defensive spells, Evasive tactics and Strategic position. Try using Caution and Heroic presence together, you'll get the same effect. I also doubt you were willing to sacrifice enough of your setup to have both Caution and blocking maxed, yet still have the nerve to rant about your lack of defense.

And that's not even mentioning the damage resistance passives. Knight is the only class in the game which can have 50% Piercing damage resistance, before armor even gets considered.

If you try to do too much at once, and combat too many situations, you won't be able to be overpowered. This is and always will be the main problem with Knights. They want to do too much, combat every situation, beat every player, and it's just not possible and why they are often found to be lacking.

All other classes make some sacrifice. For example, for Hunters, it's only skilling enough firepower to kill levellers and running away in other situations since he won't be able to win due to the sacrifices he made.

Chose your powers, chose your battles, know when it's time to fight... and not.

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Old 09-05-2008, 12:37 PM   #6
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:21 PM   #7
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What Katie said.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:33 PM   #8
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Barbarians- One of the most overpowerd class, but no-one admits it. Someone that does over 500+ normal damage, is certainly overpowered. Plus, they have a spell, thats rarely blocked, that does over 1k damage, sometimes 2k. PLUS, they can catch ANY class no matter what the %$#! you do.
Funny,

I guess when you look at a SC monkey, you look at all of us barbs, so yeah were all overpowered, we all hit 1k hits. INDEED! South Cross is hardly ever blocked! I always HEAR of knights praying they block it.

Yeah we are always running at super high speed, we can catch you, and kill you in a hit. If you call a Barbarian overpowered, then I guess a Conjurer, Marksman, and Warlock are overpowered aswell, as with Staff Mastery Setup's ive seen people do 300-600 damage at 30 range.

By the time I get to you and do a hit of 500-600 (Which is my normal hit range) A marksman would have already dealt well over 1k damage to me.

Try to get more experience before you throw down the knife like that.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:30 PM   #9
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Hunters- Oh, my goodness. SOTW: the most overpowered spell in the game. When a hunter has 1% health left....SOTW. Every time!! Plus, Knights can't get to them cause they back pedal so much!! Plus their NORMAL evades, outrageous!!

Hmmm let me look at my build.......... Nope didn't think I had sotw. Combat log....... hmm yep killed by a knight. Evades are good I admit because they just might give me time to back pedal so I can be healed by the conj. But nooooo oh dear look at that sultars, meteor, golems fist, sc oh dear dead hunter. Now everyone is happy. It would be better to say that maybe a percentage of Hunters use SotW. 1% of health left means maybe 20 or 30hp so at that point maybe 2% of mana. Not enough to cast SotW anyway. Result, again dead hunter and everyone goes home happy.



(This is one of my builds I will admit to having SotW in others but it depends on what I wan to do. So please don't tell me off for not using it )

I agree with what Katiechan said too........

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Old 09-05-2008, 03:50 PM   #10
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Knights- Fix this damn class. Its suppose to be tanks. Not slow poke that does 100 damage when their opponent is doing over 300!!! Even though we have "high defense", If I have 1,000+ armor points, I expect my opponent to hit me around 50's or at the very most, 100s, but no, 250s...300s...WOW!! So this is ridiculous as well!!
Spring [4] not too slow?

My knight can do 300-400 depending on my set up and the wepon im useing. 500~ with spells

If people hit 50's 100's we would be immortals (4000~ HP at 43) I could sit and my heath would regen faster than they could kill me.

They are not compleatly broken, at low lvls they sucketh but in the 40s they start to come into usefullness, below there everyone will reconise your low lvl armour can kill you just incase you have deflecting up
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