Opinions of Invasions

UmarilsStillHere · 06-18-2009, 04:13 PM

Well you have most likely been part of one, and it would take a special person to ignore all the faults so, Invasions, the most anticipated feature in Regnum, should it stay or should it go.

If you have the time then also post reasons why you want them on/off your server, though just by looking through the forum for 10 mins you get 100 reasons why they should be dropped.

-Edge- · 06-18-2009, 04:25 PM

Obviously its not going to be taken out.

The only thing is just that they should be refined, like all other content. NGD needs to start tuning the game imo instead of adding more content to add to the fix-it list for later on.

When we were discussing the idea of invasions months before they were actually announced and it was just a suggestion there was a lot of things that NGD thought out for us, and a lot of things they left out. For example most people expected invasions to be the final step of something bigger. We did not expect invasions to be focused on single targets again, gems. I don't think anyone suggested gems, or capturing any items. Though the idea is nice, it fails imo because just like forts it focuses on single objectives and spams a whole group of players into one area.

Its just on a fatter and much more chaotic scale. You still spam your whole army at a single gate. I like the changes NGD thought of without player suggestion, like the timer. But a lot of us expected a land expansion first, the expansion of our own realms territory, being able to capture cities, etc. These were original invasions ideas. Not just another copy and paste gate thing. They could have worked better if players would be able to capture cities, and settle in them, like getting their own save. That was a widely discussed idea, ACTUAL expansion of territory.

How many people realize that invasions are really just hopping over the wall and stealing, well I guess that's living up to its name. But I think more of us were expecting the siege-like concept and some of the ideas I posted above.

Znurre · 06-18-2009, 04:27 PM

The intention of my thread, with the poll about pre 1.0 was actually directed at the introduction of invasions.
If you want to find my reasons why invasions need to go, look here:
http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=42642

UmarilsStillHere · 06-18-2009, 04:28 PM

I know it wont be removed, its to big to be removed, this is a badly worded poll basicaly asking if your happy with invasions or would rather have them "turned off" or something untill the system is working,

On horus the pop is to low for invasions,

On Ra the server cant handle invasions,

The whole thing is a mess

Znurre · 06-18-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umaril

On horus the pop is to low for invasions,

On Ra the server cant handle invasions,

The whole thing is a mess

Not only this, but the invasions makes the WZ dead in every other regard.
This is the biggest reason why I dislike invasions.

Skjringsaal · 06-18-2009, 04:35 PM

I think what WZ needs is not to eliminate the invasions, but other alternatives simpler to realise more in reduced groups. That produces clearing, diversity and constant activity through the election of the players and is a change of easy study that can even allow to revalue spaces of the map.

Mellion · 06-18-2009, 04:36 PM

Invasion is the worst bug ever next to putting high lvl mobs into the realm. Both kill the game.

Znurre · 06-18-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faladithz

I think what WZ needs is not to eliminate the invasions, but other alternatives simpler to realise more in reduced groups. That produces clearing, diversity and constant activity through the election of the players and is a change of easy study that can even allow to revalue spaces of the map.

Can you give any example?

-Edge- · 06-18-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faladithz

I think what WZ needs is not to eliminate the invasions, but other alternatives simpler to realise more in reduced groups.

But isn't that the problem? They are not an alternative to fort wars, they replaced and destroyed fort wars.

Znurre · 06-18-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Edge-

But isn't that the problem? They are not an alternative to fort wars, they replaced and destroyed fort wars.

How I wish I could give you shitloads of karma for that.
For now I'll just keep that as a quote in my signature

View Poll Results: Do you want invasions off your server?
Yes (Ra)	14	20.59%
No (Ra)	8	11.76%
Yes (horus)	21	30.88%
No (horus)	24	35.29%
Yes (Muspell)	1	1.47%
No (Muspell)	0	0%
Yes (Niflheim)	0	0%
No (Niflheim)	0	0%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

06-18-2009, 04:13 PM	#1
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Opinions of Invasions Well you have most likely been part of one, and it would take a special person to ignore all the faults so, Invasions, the most anticipated feature in Regnum, should it stay or should it go. If you have the time then also post reasons why you want them on/off your server, though just by looking through the forum for 10 mins you get 100 reasons why they should be dropped. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

06-18-2009, 04:25 PM	#2
-Edge- Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Łódż, Poland Posts: 1,506	Obviously its not going to be taken out. The only thing is just that they should be refined, like all other content. NGD needs to start tuning the game imo instead of adding more content to add to the fix-it list for later on. When we were discussing the idea of invasions months before they were actually announced and it was just a suggestion there was a lot of things that NGD thought out for us, and a lot of things they left out. For example most people expected invasions to be the final step of something bigger. We did not expect invasions to be focused on single targets again, gems. I don't think anyone suggested gems, or capturing any items. Though the idea is nice, it fails imo because just like forts it focuses on single objectives and spams a whole group of players into one area. Its just on a fatter and much more chaotic scale. You still spam your whole army at a single gate. I like the changes NGD thought of without player suggestion, like the timer. But a lot of us expected a land expansion first, the expansion of our own realms territory, being able to capture cities, etc. These were original invasions ideas. Not just another copy and paste gate thing. They could have worked better if players would be able to capture cities, and settle in them, like getting their own save. That was a widely discussed idea, ACTUAL expansion of territory. How many people realize that invasions are really just hopping over the wall and stealing, well I guess that's living up to its name. But I think more of us were expecting the siege-like concept and some of the ideas I posted above. Last edited by -Edge-; 06-18-2009 at 04:37 PM.

06-18-2009, 04:27 PM	#3
Znurre Marquis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RA Posts: 1,897	The intention of my thread, with the poll about pre 1.0 was actually directed at the introduction of invasions. If you want to find my reasons why invasions need to go, look here: http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=42642 __________________ Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it. http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg

06-18-2009, 04:28 PM	#4
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	I know it wont be removed, its to big to be removed, this is a badly worded poll basicaly asking if your happy with invasions or would rather have them "turned off" or something untill the system is working, On horus the pop is to low for invasions, On Ra the server cant handle invasions, The whole thing is a mess __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

06-18-2009, 04:35 PM	#6
Skjringsaal Duke Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montsognir, Alsius, Regnum Posts: 4,388	I think what WZ needs is not to eliminate the invasions, but other alternatives simpler to realise more in reduced groups. That produces clearing, diversity and constant activity through the election of the players and is a change of easy study that can even allow to revalue spaces of the map. __________________ Signature by Alextrix.

06-18-2009, 04:36 PM	#7
Mellion Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 288	Invasion is the worst bug ever next to putting high lvl mobs into the realm. Both kill the game.