Regarding the evade and resist rate since the last patch...

drunk_harlot · 08-22-2009, 04:16 AM

I'd like to begin by saying this post isn't intended to spawn bitching, but rather invite discussion regarding the issues of the current evade and resist coding. I've definitely noticed a rise in unexpected runs of "avoided" hits since the last patch, especially on classes that have little or no powers that would contribute towards such an effect. In this case a run of six attacks were evaded or resisted by one barbarian, at which point I was killed, then managed to get two hits on a knight, and then a different barbarian resisted four consecutive powers. This is the most spectacular run of attack avoidance I've experienced, excluding when I've been attacking a knight of course due to the additional blocks.

Now, what I'm interested to know is if the devs have any comment on why these anomalies occur, and whether they will be improved prior to the new engine, or after the new engine? I've always been one to persevere with Regnum, as I love it to pieces, but I've seen others with less patience quit regarding things like this, which is clearly a shame.

I suppose the other thing is has anyone noticed any realm special items or powers which seem to work far more effectively than they should? I appreciate if this is the case there's a good chance players who know about such things are going to keep quiet and enjoy the benefits. But it's an interesting area of investigation rather than assuming the engine itself as a mechanic is bugged.

Again, let's keep this constructive. I'm a supporter of this game, and I think it's come a long way. Occasionally issues like this do become hard to ignore though, and it's always to sad to see players discouraged when such issues maybe could receive special attention to be fixed or improved in some way.

ArchmagusArcana · 08-22-2009, 04:26 AM

I have noticed this as well. Frustrating to say the least.

It SEEMS like MS works much better VS mages than other classes, and oddly enough i managed one vs a hunter a week or so ago, even through sotw, though i suspect that an anomaly rather than a trend indication.

Anpu · 08-22-2009, 06:54 AM

I have experienced some more evades by enemies and barbarians too, than it used to.
How much hit chance you have?

Onteron · 08-22-2009, 09:18 AM

If there's a random chance an evade will occur, there's a (smaller) random chance 6 evades in a row will occur. Where's the bug?

Nightchill · 08-22-2009, 12:33 PM

if you think that is frustrating, try to turn on your 200% booster and watch it go to waste due to all this shit

Brother-brian · 08-22-2009, 02:50 PM

Amen!

Mobs do this too. Sometimes i can kill a yellow in a few hits.... and then hit an easy, and get killed because of all the resist/evades.

What up?

ArchmagusArcana · 08-22-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onteron

If there's a random chance an evade will occur, there's a (smaller) random chance 6 evades in a row will occur. Where's the bug?

Meh, it seems as though with each passing update they turn up (at least) the mob evade/resist rate. We all know NGD random number generator does not work in a very random fashion. I had 6 or 7 resists one day, next mob another 6 to 7, next few mobs each resisted 2 or 3 each.

-Edge- · 08-22-2009, 03:57 PM

There should be no BASE resist/evade rate. It should be triggered ONLY when a related skill is used. Simple as that, tell it to the dev's though.

Onteron · 08-22-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchmagusArcana

Meh, it seems as though with each passing update they turn up (at least) the mob evade/resist rate.

I thought the OP was about misses against players. However, after every update ppl complain that miss rates vs mobs have been raised, drops have been reduced etc, though without any actual evidence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchmagusArcana

We all know NGD random number generator does not work in a very random fashion.

We do? How so?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchmagusArcana

I had 6 or 7 resists one day, next mob another 6 to 7, next few mobs each resisted 2 or 3 each.

How is this "not very random"?

thegordo · 08-23-2009, 08:45 AM

Was grinding for drops on SM, yellow Aquantis to me im 50, got fully blessed, feline dexterity and a host of other buffs, epic staff, 112 int, 112 consentration, first mob 2nd hit 688 crit, 2nd mob 3 resists in a row.... 3rd mob 3 crit hits dead....4th and 5th mob both evaded and resisted 2-3 times each... then buffs wear off, crit of 602 is best, 4-5 hits to kill, but still evades and resists, worst one was 4 times in a row... its a joke to be honest. Removing resist and evade from mobs = good move, increasing drop rate from mobs = good move, but in the PvP side of things, dunno... armour can be got to increase your evade chance, and buffs and int and Costitution can help resist and evade... does this mean some mobs have themselves got magic-epic drops ??!!!

08-22-2009, 04:26 AM	#2
ArchmagusArcana Master Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 357	I have noticed this as well. Frustrating to say the least. It SEEMS like MS works much better VS mages than other classes, and oddly enough i managed one vs a hunter a week or so ago, even through sotw, though i suspect that an anomaly rather than a trend indication. __________________ Alsirian Legion Horus: Wulfgar Heartsfang 50 barb: Arcan Heartsfang 50 Lock RA: Drakonklenok 50 Knight

08-22-2009, 06:54 AM	#3
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	I have experienced some more evades by enemies and barbarians too, than it used to. How much hit chance you have? __________________ Inquisition

08-22-2009, 09:18 AM	#4
Onteron Initiate Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 123	If there's a random chance an evade will occur, there's a (smaller) random chance 6 evades in a row will occur. Where's the bug? __________________ Eric Onteron (50 Conjurer); Eric as a [noob] lock (50) \| Horus Alsius (Retired)

08-22-2009, 12:33 PM	#5
Nightchill Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 433	if you think that is frustrating, try to turn on your 200% booster and watch it go to waste due to all this shit

08-22-2009, 02:50 PM	#6
Brother-brian Master Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 271	Amen! Mobs do this too. Sometimes i can kill a yellow in a few hits.... and then hit an easy, and get killed because of all the resist/evades. What up?

08-22-2009, 03:57 PM	#8
-Edge- Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Łódż, Poland Posts: 1,506	There should be no BASE resist/evade rate. It should be triggered ONLY when a related skill is used. Simple as that, tell it to the dev's though.

08-23-2009, 08:45 AM	#10
thegordo Pledge Join Date: May 2009 Location: London UK Posts: 14	Was grinding for drops on SM, yellow Aquantis to me im 50, got fully blessed, feline dexterity and a host of other buffs, epic staff, 112 int, 112 consentration, first mob 2nd hit 688 crit, 2nd mob 3 resists in a row.... 3rd mob 3 crit hits dead....4th and 5th mob both evaded and resisted 2-3 times each... then buffs wear off, crit of 602 is best, 4-5 hits to kill, but still evades and resists, worst one was 4 times in a row... its a joke to be honest. Removing resist and evade from mobs = good move, increasing drop rate from mobs = good move, but in the PvP side of things, dunno... armour can be got to increase your evade chance, and buffs and int and Costitution can help resist and evade... does this mean some mobs have themselves got magic-epic drops ??!!!