Arena Event

Zixmund · 11-05-2009, 05:01 PM

I dont know if there was something like this suggested but I want to try bring more fun and people to arena, also to make our gladiators not just by War Status rank but with 1vs1 fights at the eyes of the people and to bring closer Syrtis Community on Horus.

Match and Bets system :

I want to make it simple to handle all we need is to put people in one place what is hard even in wz since the syrtis mass split (5) .
We find 2 fighters for the match, any class with any class but the best with same class. Because of camo, ao1, sultar.. But I still dont see this as a problem.
We will need audience for placing bets on who will win.

Fighter must win 5 rounds, during them they can go for 1 reset to Dohsim if he want to try better tactic.

Bet system in example :

We have 10 people, each of them put 10 000 so we have 100 000 in bank.
3 of them will put they bet on gladiator 1, 7 of them on gladiator 2.
If gladiator 1 win these 3 people will get they money back + 50% of loosers bank what is 70 000 gold the other 50% will go to the gladiator 1.
Also if someone will put 5 000 he will get only his % from that amount(35 000).

I want to try put people together for this at this weekend, any sugestions are welcome. And sutff like I come with hunter and kill all oh please... If there will be hunter vs other class he cannot use Camo, if there will be kinght with other then warior cannot use ao1( I dont know how is possible to kill a knight with barb so I want to see it too) also sultar will be banned if there is lock and other class.

Freduardo · 11-05-2009, 05:16 PM

Nice idea for a pvp event.

You probably expected a response like this but here we go:

I don't understand why one should not use spells like Camo, Ao1, Sultar etcetera. If people invest points in them, and thus lose points for other skills, I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to use them.

A big part of a pvp should be to learn how to best cope with those spells in war imho. So MS that Ao1 knight, or use as many cc spells to keep him/her off you.

The only skill I do not like to see in a pvp is MoD. The rest is imho fine.

_Enio_ · 11-05-2009, 05:46 PM

The main problem with these events in arena is to keep the players who crash it out of arena.. lowlvls who dont understand, retards who think its more fun to annoy evryone etc.

But yeah its worth a try, ill make sure to log there to watch when you announce a time and date

Zixmund · 11-05-2009, 06:22 PM

Yes this is what I m most worried about - retards, but I will give it a try this weekend on syrstis chat and I know this game is not arena based, but it will be also good to find more pvp issues and about the spells.. I think best will be to make same class pvp but we should try everything and the most interesting will be if somebody will win the 100% lose situation and I think lvl 50s will find it more interesting -if enough people will be involed- to get gold for repairs and arrows then grinding. I tried it today and there were about 5 of us and it finished with killling each other. So I putted it here to describe the beting system. If this will be sucesfull I try find out how the system of bets can work better and maybe special weapons and magna to put in and etc..

Gawyn_Trakkand · 11-06-2009, 03:23 AM

this is an awesome idea Zix I would love to be one of the fighters too. Just give me a time when this is going to happen and i'll be there. As for keeping the PT's interferance to a minimum how about having 4 lvl 50's (2w 1a 1m) policing the events from interferance. I'm sure i could find willing participants from my clan sa you could from BoS.

UmarilsStillHere · 11-06-2009, 03:29 PM

last time we did something like this (arwen organised, magna entry fee/prize) we had 2 players in the arena at any given time, and they can pick on pre-buffs or not, they must both agree with prebuffs or there are none,

To deal with Idiots me and someone else ended up sitting in the arena during fights to kick out any idiots, however a pair of hunters would do well because of ranged knockdowns reducing the chance of said 'idoit' dealing damage to either of the current combatants.

Achee · 11-06-2009, 07:02 PM

Sounds like a good idea if it can be organised like you said.

It would be good to have something to do beyond the normal warzone.

I'd be happy to compete and help out with the policing too.

veluchami · 11-06-2009, 07:22 PM

I am ok with same realm pvps.. they help you practice for war.
But cant stand inter realm pvps. If you want PvPs go to Amun.
Please dont ruin the wz !!!

Zixmund · 11-06-2009, 07:27 PM

If this will come together we will have more practice in 1vs1 pvp and we will better know each others abilites so I think team work in warzone will be also better too and putting people up for one think also...

Anpu · 11-07-2009, 10:04 AM

Practicing 1v1 for RvR wont help much (except to lonely hunters, or testing some uber items or learning new guy about combat). Practicing coordination of team(s) is something useful for WZ (I wish Arena is team battleground, maybe like those in WoW even, with capturing flags etc). Do not forget not all spells still work in arena, and you still cant simulate well WZ field there (spells that aren't working, tiny arena space, mobs popping up from walls, ground, players popping up around and ruining events/tests, not being able to reset in Arena, various arena structure bugs etc).

As I wont ever take part in some arena events till Arena is in such a sad state, I can only offer you my range and damage for trying to keep inner arena out of intruders during your event.

I also wish you can buy Arena for some limited time, in gold, and create arena tickets with gold. Then you give tickets to those who can enter in Arena during your event (thats why you bought arena for some time, so you can organize some event).

Tickets could be like those letters we had for Valentine, and could be:
1) when you talk with Arena guardian, he gets ticket from you (disappear from inventory like in quests) and your teleportation in inner arena starts or
2) on tickets (letter-like item), organizer can write password for entering in Arena during event. Talking to Arena Guardian, he asks you for pass, you enter it, and he lets you in.
Personally, i like 1), because it is more simple and more secure way. You can tell pass in public, miss window and type in general for example.

11-05-2009, 05:01 PM	#1
Zixmund Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 59	Arena Event I dont know if there was something like this suggested but I want to try bring more fun and people to arena, also to make our gladiators not just by War Status rank but with 1vs1 fights at the eyes of the people and to bring closer Syrtis Community on Horus. Match and Bets system : I want to make it simple to handle all we need is to put people in one place what is hard even in wz since the syrtis mass split (5) . We find 2 fighters for the match, any class with any class but the best with same class. Because of camo, ao1, sultar.. But I still dont see this as a problem. We will need audience for placing bets on who will win. Fighter must win 5 rounds, during them they can go for 1 reset to Dohsim if he want to try better tactic. Bet system in example : We have 10 people, each of them put 10 000 so we have 100 000 in bank. 3 of them will put they bet on gladiator 1, 7 of them on gladiator 2. If gladiator 1 win these 3 people will get they money back + 50% of loosers bank what is 70 000 gold the other 50% will go to the gladiator 1. Also if someone will put 5 000 he will get only his % from that amount(35 000). I want to try put people together for this at this weekend, any sugestions are welcome. And sutff like I come with hunter and kill all oh please... If there will be hunter vs other class he cannot use Camo, if there will be kinght with other then warior cannot use ao1( I dont know how is possible to kill a knight with barb so I want to see it too) also sultar will be banned if there is lock and other class.

11-05-2009, 05:16 PM	#2
Freduardo Initiate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 107	Nice idea for a pvp event. You probably expected a response like this but here we go: I don't understand why one should not use spells like Camo, Ao1, Sultar etcetera. If people invest points in them, and thus lose points for other skills, I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to use them. A big part of a pvp should be to learn how to best cope with those spells in war imho. So MS that Ao1 knight, or use as many cc spells to keep him/her off you. The only skill I do not like to see in a pvp is MoD. The rest is imho fine. __________________ Fredu'Cya

11-05-2009, 05:46 PM	#3
_Enio_ Marquis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,843	The main problem with these events in arena is to keep the players who crash it out of arena.. lowlvls who dont understand, retards who think its more fun to annoy evryone etc. But yeah its worth a try, ill make sure to log there to watch when you announce a time and date __________________ Fix the Marksman subclass: Suggestion

11-06-2009, 03:29 PM	#6
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	last time we did something like this (arwen organised, magna entry fee/prize) we had 2 players in the arena at any given time, and they can pick on pre-buffs or not, they must both agree with prebuffs or there are none, To deal with Idiots me and someone else ended up sitting in the arena during fights to kick out any idiots, however a pair of hunters would do well because of ranged knockdowns reducing the chance of said 'idoit' dealing damage to either of the current combatants. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

11-06-2009, 07:02 PM	#7
Achee Pledge Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 0	Sounds like a good idea if it can be organised like you said. It would be good to have something to do beyond the normal warzone. I'd be happy to compete and help out with the policing too. __________________ Achee ~ Achea

11-05-2009, 06:22 PM	#4
Zixmund Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 59	Yes this is what I m most worried about - retards, but I will give it a try this weekend on syrstis chat and I know this game is not arena based, but it will be also good to find more pvp issues and about the spells.. I think best will be to make same class pvp but we should try everything and the most interesting will be if somebody will win the 100% lose situation and I think lvl 50s will find it more interesting -if enough people will be involed- to get gold for repairs and arrows then grinding. I tried it today and there were about 5 of us and it finished with killling each other. So I putted it here to describe the beting system. If this will be sucesfull I try find out how the system of bets can work better and maybe special weapons and magna to put in and etc..

11-06-2009, 03:23 AM	#5
Gawyn_Trakkand Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 219	this is an awesome idea Zix I would love to be one of the fighters too. Just give me a time when this is going to happen and i'll be there. As for keeping the PT's interferance to a minimum how about having 4 lvl 50's (2w 1a 1m) policing the events from interferance. I'm sure i could find willing participants from my clan sa you could from BoS.

11-06-2009, 07:22 PM	#8
veluchami Initiate Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 117	I am ok with same realm pvps.. they help you practice for war. But cant stand inter realm pvps. If you want PvPs go to Amun. Please dont ruin the wz !!!

11-06-2009, 07:27 PM	#9
Zixmund Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 59	If this will come together we will have more practice in 1vs1 pvp and we will better know each others abilites so I think team work in warzone will be also better too and putting people up for one think also...

11-07-2009, 10:04 AM	#10
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	Practicing 1v1 for RvR wont help much (except to lonely hunters, or testing some uber items or learning new guy about combat). Practicing coordination of team(s) is something useful for WZ (I wish Arena is team battleground, maybe like those in WoW even, with capturing flags etc). Do not forget not all spells still work in arena, and you still cant simulate well WZ field there (spells that aren't working, tiny arena space, mobs popping up from walls, ground, players popping up around and ruining events/tests, not being able to reset in Arena, various arena structure bugs etc). As I wont ever take part in some arena events till Arena is in such a sad state, I can only offer you my range and damage for trying to keep inner arena out of intruders during your event. I also wish you can buy Arena for some limited time, in gold, and create arena tickets with gold. Then you give tickets to those who can enter in Arena during your event (thats why you bought arena for some time, so you can organize some event). Tickets could be like those letters we had for Valentine, and could be: 1) when you talk with Arena guardian, he gets ticket from you (disappear from inventory like in quests) and your teleportation in inner arena starts or 2) on tickets (letter-like item), organizer can write password for entering in Arena during event. Talking to Arena Guardian, he asks you for pass, you enter it, and he lets you in. Personally, i like 1), because it is more simple and more secure way. You can tell pass in public, miss window and type in general for example. __________________ Inquisition