Would it be unbalancing if warlocks could target spells at doors?

BigManOnCampus · 07-07-2010, 02:28 AM

Go with me on this.

1) Fort doors could come down easier, meaning more engagement instead of fort-farming-from-safety.

2) Warlocks become a class that players might spend more time protecting, along with barbs. (not that they really need this tho, as I think it's actually slightly easier to stay alive as a lock)

3) Mana spells become more important at the conflict by the door for both sides of the fight, which might help with class balance in a way. (mana comm for attackers, mana drains for defenders)

Thoughts? Whats the major imbalance from this?

_Enio_ · 07-07-2010, 03:42 AM

Will be nice flames going when someone starts to piss off all with freezing the door ^^

No really, i dont think that would work out. Conjs inside matwalling, healing and dispelling the door while being completely safe from being attacked isnt goin to work.

tjanex · 07-07-2010, 05:18 AM

I don't think this is a great idea.

HuntShot · 07-07-2010, 09:43 AM

Well, I do

Seriously more people would choose warlock(actually thats not really what we need) but then we would have more activity, we wouldnt need so much barbs so yeah more activity and it would stop the annoying kills from Syrtis at aggers then the door would go down way faster!
And then the real war could start!

Nice idea +1

AntibioTsu · 07-07-2010, 11:29 AM

I don't like this idea.

Warlocks aren't supposed to bash doors, but instead crowd control and kill incoming enemies. It's better to let warriors keep the door-knocking job, otherwise they lose only of their few (maybe only?) roles.

Besides, if there are no enemies to kill then the Warlock can always provide mana to the warriors and archers that need it, so I think it's unnecessary to allow spell casting on the door.

mr_scsi · 07-07-2010, 12:32 PM

I couldn't help but notice, most of the comments against this are syrtis.... I think its a great idea.

It give the warlock something to do besides watching the zerglets get rezzed inside the lvl 4 fort after they sultar them.

Recoil · 07-07-2010, 01:08 PM

I like this idea, if you can hit something with a hammer you definitely could hit it with a meteor.

I would also like to see walls made attack-able (by all classes).

bois · 07-07-2010, 01:30 PM

Hi all, I am back from absentia. Rather than comment on the OP's original idea directly, this to me, seems to be a solution for a symptom and not a solution for a root problem.
The root problem is of course that the fort and castle attack/defense system is dated, stale, scripted and unimaginative. What is required (been calling for this a while now) is a total revamp of the concept of fort and castle structures and their options for attack/ defense.

Until we see bigger forts with proper keeps inside, good balanced terrain for attack/ defense outside the fort, interesting fort upgrade options, siege equipment for invaders, imaginative defense structures inside the fort, and ancillary structures outside the fort, things will remain the same. A new way to bash a gate is not a solution to the root problems . It may provide a temporary (stress temporary) rush to the players involved though.

Artec

doppelapfel · 07-07-2010, 02:19 PM

My mainchar is a lock and i dont like it. Locks are already pretty good in war, great dmg, many areas and range. breaking the door is the warriors and archers role.

Nekoko · 07-07-2010, 04:56 PM

Don't think it's a good idea either spells on a door would look stupid. Maybe a spell that only works on doors or something that won't look so retarded would be ok but otherwise I can't think of a way to make this work.

07-07-2010, 02:28 AM	#1
BigManOnCampus Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 233	Would it be unbalancing if warlocks could target spells at doors? Go with me on this. 1) Fort doors could come down easier, meaning more engagement instead of fort-farming-from-safety. 2) Warlocks become a class that players might spend more time protecting, along with barbs. (not that they really need this tho, as I think it's actually slightly easier to stay alive as a lock) 3) Mana spells become more important at the conflict by the door for both sides of the fight, which might help with class balance in a way. (mana comm for attackers, mana drains for defenders) Thoughts? Whats the major imbalance from this?

07-07-2010, 03:42 AM	#2
_Enio_ Marquis Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,843	Will be nice flames going when someone starts to piss off all with freezing the door ^^ No really, i dont think that would work out. Conjs inside matwalling, healing and dispelling the door while being completely safe from being attacked isnt goin to work. __________________ Fix the Marksman subclass: Suggestion

07-07-2010, 11:29 AM	#5
AntibioTsu Initiate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 245	I don't like this idea. Warlocks aren't supposed to bash doors, but instead crowd control and kill incoming enemies. It's better to let warriors keep the door-knocking job, otherwise they lose only of their few (maybe only?) roles. Besides, if there are no enemies to kill then the Warlock can always provide mana to the warriors and archers that need it, so I think it's unnecessary to allow spell casting on the door. __________________ Amoxi - Vanco - Azithro - Genta - Cipro - Doxy [RA] A proud member of INQUISITION

07-07-2010, 04:56 PM	#10
Nekoko Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 334	Don't think it's a good idea either spells on a door would look stupid. Maybe a spell that only works on doors or something that won't look so retarded would be ok but otherwise I can't think of a way to make this work. __________________ A Dream.

07-07-2010, 05:18 AM	#3
tjanex Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands 8-D Posts: 653	I don't think this is a great idea.

07-07-2010, 09:43 AM	#4
HuntShot Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 468	Well, I do Seriously more people would choose warlock(actually thats not really what we need) but then we would have more activity, we wouldnt need so much barbs so yeah more activity and it would stop the annoying kills from Syrtis at aggers then the door would go down way faster! And then the real war could start! Nice idea +1

07-07-2010, 12:32 PM	#6
mr_scsi Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Right behind you Posts: 153	I couldn't help but notice, most of the comments against this are syrtis.... I think its a great idea. It give the warlock something to do besides watching the zerglets get rezzed inside the lvl 4 fort after they sultar them.

07-07-2010, 01:08 PM	#7
Recoil Master Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 335	I like this idea, if you can hit something with a hammer you definitely could hit it with a meteor. I would also like to see walls made attack-able (by all classes).

07-07-2010, 01:30 PM	#8
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	Hi all, I am back from absentia. Rather than comment on the OP's original idea directly, this to me, seems to be a solution for a symptom and not a solution for a root problem. The root problem is of course that the fort and castle attack/defense system is dated, stale, scripted and unimaginative. What is required (been calling for this a while now) is a total revamp of the concept of fort and castle structures and their options for attack/ defense. Until we see bigger forts with proper keeps inside, good balanced terrain for attack/ defense outside the fort, interesting fort upgrade options, siege equipment for invaders, imaginative defense structures inside the fort, and ancillary structures outside the fort, things will remain the same. A new way to bash a gate is not a solution to the root problems . It may provide a temporary (stress temporary) rush to the players involved though. Artec

07-07-2010, 02:19 PM	#9
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	My mainchar is a lock and i dont like it. Locks are already pretty good in war, great dmg, many areas and range. breaking the door is the warriors and archers role.