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Crowbane
12-11-2008, 01:06 PM
Dear Regnum

I looked all through the forums today, as I do every day, and noted a few things. Most debates have died a lot of the forums have no new posts (the sparkly pretty jewels are black). This is sad, I also noted that there are not many in the forums either.

It used to be there was lively (I admit sometimes too lively :)) debate and everyone was willing to help no matter what realm they were in. Now it's scoring points off each other and deleted messages. There are things wrong with the game (stating the obvious) but there is also things good about the game. The community was one of them. Now it's the same people posting and multi-threading of the same subject.

I have come to the conclusion that the community is dying and that, Dear Regnum, makes me sad.

These are my own opinions and thoughts. I hope I am wrong.

Adrian
12-11-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi Landriel,

English speaking users are active (spending almost the same time as always) but not posting as usual. My guess: Users are tired of discussing about the same subjects on and on.

My advice: Use The Inn a little more for in-game happenings. A Community forum is a place to find information about the game, but also to find what is going on with their users.

I know that there are other places that are used to talk "freely". Maybe that takes users away of the "Reply" button too.

Regards,

Comp
12-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Come to IRC that's where all the cool kids hang out :D

Eli2
12-11-2008, 02:33 PM
One thing i don't like is the information policy of NGD.
They act like a huge company.
That makes it hard to feel the sympathy i have for independent (game) developers.
Please be a bit more open with information about the development process.

Adrian
12-11-2008, 03:00 PM
One thing i don't like is the information policy of NGD.
They act like a huge company.
That makes it hard to feel the sympathy i have for independent (game) developers.
Please be a bit more open with information about the development process.

Hi Eli,

NGD always liked to communicate that way, but acting that way brought a lot of problems that they are hard to see by only looking to "old threads". Communicating is mostly confused with promising, thus creating false expectations among the community and then, obviously, frustration.

Gradually we are replying on a regular basis in the most important topics, but you must understand what I stated before.

Regards,

Eli2
12-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Hi Eli,

NGD always liked to communicate that way, but acting that way brought a lot of problems that they are hard to see by only looking to "old threads". Communicating is mostly confused with promising, thus creating false expectations among the community and then, obviously, frustration.

Gradually we are replying on a regular basis in the most important topics, but you must understand what I stated before.

Regards,
If you like to target the mass audience that is certainly a problem.

If you like to appeal to the independent crowd,
those communication problems should not exist.

Eli

Adrian
12-11-2008, 09:45 PM
If you like to target the mass audience that is certainly a problem.

If you like to appeal to the independent crowd,
those communication problems should not exist.

Eli

Yes, that's the weakest point of this situation. It's hard to discuss this issues (inside NGD) when everyone is frantically occupied with their million tasks. Let's wait till this last update and then we'll see if we can solve this issue, as it's obvious that is critically important.

Also, I'd like to point out that I like when people discuss about this kind of topics this way. :thumb:

Regards,

Mattdoesrock
12-11-2008, 10:30 PM
I too have noticed a decrease in posting.

One reason could be that, like you said Kailer, the same topics are being discussed over and over. One major thing that contributes to this is the lack of communication from NGD. Things like the massive realm imbalance on Horus, the imbalance on RA, the broken skills, the evasion etc. issues and the skills that need changing... We have heard absolutley nada on what is going on... Ok granted, awhile back NGD said that they were beginning to work on skill issues, but we could really do with some follow up information. I know, obviously, you can't say x skill is being changed this way, z skill is being nerfed that way, but I'm sure, at bare minimum we could have a, "We are working on skills in the x,y,z skill tree", you know, something vague, but enough to keep us satisfied. I know everyone will probably be busy doing their million tasks, but I'm sure it wouldn't long many minutes to simply throw together something to keep us afloat.
On a similar note too, it'd be great if you could give us a very rough ETA on when the update is coming? 5 days? 5 weeks? 5 months? Just something would be nice.

Second I know some people are certainly put off by what may happen to their posts. On IRC I sometimes see "Hmm.. I wonder how long it'll be before my post is deleted / I'm banned / moved to the Inn." Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say anything nasty, it's just things like topics get closed very, very quickly, and not all "off-topic" posts are so bad.. You know, just little things.

People are losing faith in the game and in NGD... With increased communication I'm sure that people can be won back.

P.s. I hope this counts as being on topic.. I think I waffled abit..

Froste
12-11-2008, 11:40 PM
This is just wrong, I read the forums quite regularly and there's just as much useless twitter posting as there's always been, the only "change" from the way people posted during beta and even a year ago is that people tend to reply more now, thus creating longer but fewer threads, whereas before it was mostly shorter but a greater amount of threads.

Gellan
12-12-2008, 04:16 AM
Maybe the forums are not being used is because people are playing the game so much they keep forgetting to check the forums!

Arquero_Nefita
12-12-2008, 05:37 AM
I am an Active (Well Sometimes) on Spanish(Espaņol) Forum, I cant say write 10posts at day.
But i can say i read a lot.
Yeah i think the same, "people are playing". And alot,


I have a question Kailer, how if we need to talk, we contact you?
I know and i understand its hard to answer A lot of Tasks. Sometimes Thousands, but how its the best way?

I thought you were sometime a normal player of a Rol game, if you play one before being a Developer, because if you were a Developer before play, you feel like powerful and maybe you dont understand my point.

I just want to be your Buddy, but you will say: ham, am a developer, he wants to be my buddy. He wants me to give him a 50 PJ or Talk.(?) That's why maybe you can't be my buddy. But trust me, nothing of that.

Just Give me out of Douts please.

I will Appreciate your prompt response Kailer.

Regards.
Jorge Span Rodulf. Knightmare 43. Age: 13 (Guatemala Language: Espanish)

Adrian
12-12-2008, 05:18 PM
People are losing faith in the game and in NGD... With increased communication I'm sure that people can be won back.

We always think about this and how to improve the relationship with all our users. That lack of communication is almost always related to lack of time (remember that answering always brings more and more doubts and this can cause a not so nice side effect).

This is just wrong, I read the forums quite regularly and there's just as much useless twitter posting as there's always been, the only "change" from the way people posted during beta and even a year ago is that people tend to reply more now, thus creating longer but fewer threads, whereas before it was mostly shorter but a greater amount of threads.

Yes, that is the impression you get because of moderation. Some may think that moderation is being too harsh, but it is truly needed and you can always ask a bit more about the measures that were taken by just PMing me (only a few do this).

I have a question Kailer, how if we need to talk, we contact you?
I know and i understand its hard to answer A lot of Tasks. Sometimes Thousands, but how its the best way?

There are many ways to contact me, don't hesitate in doing so. You can PM me or send an email to any of the mailboxes of ngd Studios depending on the problem or inquiry you may have.

I thought you were sometime a normal player of a Rol game, if you play one before being a Developer, because if you were a Developer before play, you feel like powerful and maybe you dont understand my point.

Not a single time. I'm happy to be helping in the development of this game that I learned to love (and was spending too much time on it and I wanted that to be worth something).

I want you to have the proper answers, but sometimes there are none or I'm occupied with other issues and I will delay on providing them. If there is no answer at all please insist, as sometimes the load is such that I can miss some PMs.

Regards,

Malik2
12-12-2008, 10:29 PM
This is just wrong, I read the forums quite regularly and there's just as much useless twitter posting as there's always been, the only "change" from the way people posted during beta and even a year ago is that people tend to reply more now, thus creating longer but fewer threads, whereas before it was mostly shorter but a greater amount of threads.

I disagree with Froste.

The biggest change is the almost total elimination of conflict. I see in the posts over the last few months a meekness and lack of passion. Certainly passionate discussions can spill over to abuse or rediculousness, but it also makes for interesting reading.

I see nothing wrong with strong opinions stated strongly and even some posts that throw an elbow, but without the occasional disagreement, things get boring.

Arquero_Nefita
12-13-2008, 01:20 AM
Thanks Alote for the answer. I appreciate that alote.

Regards

Jorge Span Rodulf

haloboydeath
12-13-2008, 10:09 AM
What I think is that some people do not have the time to play this game anymore. Most of the people that I meet from day to day all say that they are running a Linux machine which means that some of them just play because it is the only option, while on Windows alot of the people that did play now moved onto the next big thing in the mmo community.

But to make it get to the point faster for some of the "special" users, the game is simply dieing because of lack of support in there eyes or that its just getting old.

Of course I am just stating this as my own opinon and not whats really going on in the community. :3

Angel_de_Combate
12-13-2008, 01:36 PM
Dear Regnum

I looked all through the forums today, as I do every day, and noted a few things. Most debates have died a lot of the forums have no new posts (the sparkly pretty jewels are black). This is sad, I also noted that there are not many in the forums either.

It used to be there was lively (I admit sometimes too lively :)) debate and everyone was willing to help no matter what realm they were in. Now it's scoring points off each other and deleted messages. There are things wrong with the game (stating the obvious) but there is also things good about the game. The community was one of them. Now it's the same people posting and multi-threading of the same subject.

I have come to the conclusion that the community is dying and that, Dear Regnum, makes me sad.

These are my own opinions and thoughts. I hope I am wrong.

To sum it up in one sentence..i miss how regnum was just a bit less than a year ago..at this precise moment in time..i have no net and its brilliant, if NGD got rid of fatigue, actually listened to the community, kept everyone up to date with future updates etc, then sadly i agree with the above post..Regnum is dying... :( Over and out x

UmarilsStillHere
12-13-2008, 01:38 PM
No matter the game, it will allways grow old/ out of date eventualy, Go play some "classic" PS1 games you used to think were "awesome" the gameplay may still be the same but in most cases it feals "old" and you would rather do something else,

Same with Regnum eventualy It will need new gameplay styles (class's?) or just a new look (land expansion/graphical overhall)

Aries202
12-13-2008, 05:51 PM
No matter the game, it will allways grow old/ out of date eventualy, Go play some "classic" PS1 games you used to think were "awesome" the gameplay may still be the same but in most cases it feals "old" and you would rather do something else,

Same with Regnum eventualy It will need new gameplay styles (class's?) or just a new look (land expansion/graphical overhall)

They have already done this, look at the game when it first came out. The archers were in a weird battle position etc, it is too early to change the whole model again, This game isnt even getting boring, whats happening is that everyone is leaving which is why most people leave also or play less. In Ra server, most of Dark brotherhood clan went to WoW, they still play regnum, but just more of WoW.

-Edge-
12-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Regnum still owns WoW imo.

I mean WoW.... its just... not wow. Ugly pink, blue, purple, and green characters like migdits, orcs, some halfdead things, to top it off with graphics worse than a N64 (not that I hate the N64 :>) Ive never played it, but I think I would die if I did, I hear there are large scale bans on a daily basis, where you grind your ass off to get banned in the end. Meh, what can I say for a game I never played, but at least Ive learned whats a real game, not some grind based gameplay in killing the same thing over and over without reason.

This is wow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqvCLVnxXqU)

Sorry but I prefer a game that sticks to some normal aspects, full fantasy isn't for me, I like traditional roleplay that pulls me into its world. Regnum has more reality than some "world of the masses"..... "hey do you play WoW??!?! OMG yeah, EVERYONE plays it!"

Why should I be like everyone else :P Im just myself, maybe thats wierd but thats me ;P

No matter the game, it will allways grow old/ out of date eventualy, Go play some "classic" PS1 games you used to think were "awesome" the gameplay may still be the same but in most cases it feals "old" and you would rather do something else,

Same with Regnum eventualy It will need new gameplay styles (class's?) or just a new look (land expansion/graphical overhall)
What? Theres nothing I love more than old games, I would give my soul to be born in that generation, your talking about new games with dazzling lights and effects and tons of things that are there for no reason? Thats just the mass view to get "customers"

The farther gaming gets the shittier it becomes because you get less and less talented people in it, thats my theory at least, and the worst thing of all is when they remake a game, my god it can ruin the whole thing. They wanted to make Loz:TP a remake of OoT, im thankful they didn't. all it makes it little wannabe's who act like they know something about a game that came out decades before them, hell maybe im a wannabe to some extent, but I at least understand the passion which is everything im saying now.

everything now has no meaning, and few games are real gems. I agree with Aries, if you saw what the game was like a year ago you'd shit your pants, Missing so many things, I mean it still is now, but its been a ton of stuff, you should know, you joined in July.

Angelwinged_Devil
12-14-2008, 05:15 PM
No matter the game, it will allways grow old this is wrong, the thing that is growing old in regnum is that it has gotten worse, it has nothing to do with a game growing "old" perhaps you just haven't found the right game then?

Some points in a game may seem interesting at start, this will either go out or get more interesting depending on if you like the game itself or you're just being (I forgot the word for it but when you stick your nose a lot of places).

Let's take a few examples.

Regnum: why do I like regnum? I like playing against real people, see how they would work up some kind of strategy, then try to overcome the challenge, fighting a neverending war where strategy was a big part of the game (now it's luck) Winning or losing is just a result, it's while you are fighting the fun part is or you'll never have fun with a game.
Not so long ago we fought with alsius (they didn't use luck spells) so it was one hell of a fight to fight and it was funny, it's a shame the other team had low levels and not such a good cooperation as usual.

Or when three syrtis clashed with three ignis and we had some very very good fights, it was very very enjoyable

frets on fire: This game is fast paced, you have to think fast and "play" music, as I like music a lot this is probably one of the only single player games I play. shredding solos is just awesome, the faster and more complex the better :D

people afraid to get banned and therefore does not post.
discussions have been made a thousand times about the same thing, people doesn't want to go over them again, the game is imbalanced, this we know.
The thing is that kailer is right, the inn... kinda the only place to play around at the moment :p