To the elves of Horus

[Lostican]

I moved to Horus a few months back because I am tired of not understanding most of the community. (syrtis) So now I have made my first lvl 50 on horus. However, now that I can understand everyone, they drive me crazy!

Because I can't get my opinion out in realm chat, I shall do it here.

TO THOSE OF 50TH LVL

You are our leaders weather you like it or not. All those below you will look at you as the more powerful soldier. Please start acting like leaders! Getting mad at noobs will not make them understand. It will only detour them from being positive and confident. If your bored, stop looting and go help lower levels get higer. If you see someone doing somthing totally noobish and stupid, FIND A BETTER WAY TO TELL THEM!

We are all fusterated, but getting mad will only make matters worse!

TO THOSE OF 49TH-42ND

You are on the cusp of greatness. But you are not yet powerful enough to handle everyone and everything. Even 50's can't do that. So don't get to thinking you should be listened too like your the expert. IDC if you have 10 lvl 50's on RA, Horus is a totally different animal, and your tatics in RA just won't work here. (for the most part) You should shut up, and listen to the more expierenced players when it comes time for war or invasion. Just simply, shut up.


TO THOSE 30th-41st

You barely even belong in war or invasion. But we have so few on Horus, you help is appreciated. But your ideas of what to do are not. Ask questions to learn by all mean, but do not expect anyone to follow you off into battle just because you said CHARGE! Don't complain, just take your licks and keep grinding. You really can do nothing for us except being cannon fodder. IF you start wailing your opinion around during wartime, you WILL disrupt what we are trying to achomplish.

TO THOSE 29 and below

You need to be training, not goofing off in the War Zone. Not chatting all day long spamming the chat log. yes, you wanna see what its like, fine, just go and see, then go back to your training. Don't stay too long, because every second YOU spend NOT training, is another minute WE will spend suffering from being outnumbered.

TO EVERYONE OF SRYTIS

Stop being impossible, start working together. Only good things will come from it. Ignis has invaded us how many times? Stolen our gems?

Anyone sick of this yet???

TRAIN SRYTIS....for the love of the elven gods (alt. ones too) ....>TRAIN!

there, see now, I feel better already! lol

[DkySven]

I don't agree with it that only high level people should do leading things. The best is to listen to players you know, even if they are level <40. Also, more than once we won a war because of low level(25) people doing their jobs well.

[AntibioTsu]

I agree with some of yours statements, because it can be annoying to see "unexperienced" ppl talking about what to do and when should we attack, but I also think no one has the right to make other ppl grind just because the realm is underpopulated. Furthermore, you cant make lvl 50s stop grinding for precious gold, only to help other ppl lvl; I know they would be helped a lot, but we're just lazy :P
About the lvl 50 players being leaders, dont be so sure about that. We may have accomplished the max lvl avaliable, but that doesnt mean we are the most experienced players. Everyone can grind easily with boosts to lvl 50, and yet be totally noob at the WZ.
About the Ra veterans part, I think we should never ignore them, because those are the ones who hold more knowledge about WZ and tactics, since they have been playing this game for a long time and can give great tips from which you can learn from.

[Lostican]

I used many general terms so I understand your feedback. However, you just wanna keep on losing, then do it the same ole' way we've done it now forever. The chaos needs to go away....its that simple. I've heard every single person I've talked to complain about being invaded, and not being able to do it back to them.....so, its time for some changes.

Yesturday, we could have cleaned the Ignis realm of gems. But noobs running up, others shouting at them....IT GETS US NOWHERE>

We need real leaders to come forward....and noobs to shut up.

And no, just because you are from RA, doesn't mean your expierenced. Just like the previous example of 50's leveling up and being noobs in WZ. Its not the same war on Horus, tatics need adjusted a little bit. So veteran RA players are NOOBS here until they learn how its different.

I'm not saying ignore anyone!

The time to talk strategy for a fort war or invasion is LONG BEFORE the battle even starts. If we are going into an invasion attempt. We need 1 or 2 clear cut leaders. Everyone else ONLY talks when its something important.

Nobody wants to hear what you had for breakfast, we want to hear Ignis gates crashing.

[Lostican]

I don't agree with it that only high level people should do leading things. The best is to listen to players you know, even if they are level <40. Also, more than once we won a war because of low level(25) people doing their jobs well.


I have never been apart of any fort war or invasion where a 25th lvl won the war for us.

[Kittypretty]

thats why horus fails, because people like you decide to tell everyone how to play a game any way they like.

good luck.


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[Lostican]

all i want is for the fighting and bickering to stop, its crazy trying to follow what everyone is doing when people are shouting and spamming the chat

my main point, is higher lvls are the ones who will make a difference in battle, so shouldn't they get the right to lead?

and everyone else, just shut up and do your job, don't get mad at "player x" because he is a noob and doing somthing stupid

on the other hand, if your a noob, don't get mad cause maybe you don't get healed or rezzed when the enemy is hot

we follow one voice, thats the point, one person, and everyone sticks to his/her plan, if it don't work, someone else try

Once again, this is for horus, not RA. Also, this is only during times of invasion or major fort war. BUT THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH ARGUING GOING ON IN REALM CHAT. If you have a better idea, then say it. Don't just put me down cause you disagree. Say what you think should be done to turn this around.

[-SoL-]

what he is saying isn't exactly a lie! it can be hurtful but it's the truth! Syrtis(Horus) Needs to clean up it's act! we have alot of bad habbits that need attending to!
as for our lower lvls alot of them don't grind! ive seen players who were around when i started on horus but are still lvl 25-30 yet they belive they are a leading force in our realm!
One of the biggest things that angers me is we have people who have good grinding habbits but have only been in this realm for like 2 weeks and try to barge in and take control!
as for lvl 50's helping lower lvls! i think this is a important thing to our realm and any realm having a lvl 50 conj look over a group of 4-5 lvl 15's helps create stronger players and helps keep players into the game due to them creating friendships or looking at the higher lvls as mentors! and wanting to be that strong and enjoy the game!
also every realm have players that straight up useless and don't care about anything but personal glory!

[Pendalf]

IMHO Lostican raised a reasonable talk. At the moment I write this message Ignis open their portal.
And this shit will continue until everyone in Syrtis will understand ONE simple thing. Seek the reason of your problems inside you. Look at YOUR own play, what is wrong in it. Find your disadvantages and work to clear them. If everyone (or even most part) will look at their own war abilities, chat will be silent...

Of course, _Syrtis got no organisation. It's chaotic_. If every time someone tell this one magnanite dropped in my inventory, I could have a good magnanite staff already. Everyone knows but nothing's change.

Also, do you know third problem? Game lags HARD at the time of enemies nearby and i can do nothing with that. My comp is modern and pretty powerful. But the first frame of my invasion movie shows 100% hp, and next one shows a sad grey window with accept button... =(
I have paid to NGD much more money then I ever paid for game in my life. I expect better quality.

Anyway, I have no doubt i will enter Syrtis portal sometimes.

[Inkster]

We are all fusterated


Speak for yourself ^^

[_dracus_]

It's funny to see that the organisation problem of Syrtis in Horus, looks a bit like the one on Ra.

I played my Ignis marks a bit lately, and defeating bigger groups of syrtians is generally no problem because they just don't fight in team, everyone doing his little shit alone.

Basically
Warriors rush without range support (Terror, Tremor, Lightning arrow ?).
Then one warlock goes Terror on a buffed group, he gets down by 2 archers very fast.

My opinion:
People don't need order during a fight. Orders are for higher level decision, like invasion plots.


And no, just because you are from RA, doesn't mean your expierenced. Just like the previous example of 50's leveling up and being noobs in WZ. Its not the same war on Horus, tatics need adjusted a little bit. So veteran RA players are NOOBS here until they learn how its different.

Who are you trying to convince with that ?

You seem to value too much tactics and chat communication during war. Chat is only useful for synchronisation, you can't waste your time writing in game. And IMO lvl 50s on Ra are generally more experienced than lvl 50s on horus.

[Lostican]

Speak for yourself ^^

Ohh, I'm sorry inkster, I didn't realize YOU were not fusterated. So I retract my previous statement.....it should say this....

We are all fusterated...except Inkster... :angel2:

I was pretty fired up yesturday when I started this post, but at least I'm not the only elf with some pride. Maybe some of my thoughts are over the top, but my point remains true....WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A REALM AND WORK TOGETHER.

And I'm not even going to respond to the realm jumper who always puts in the opinion like its gold or something. Pick a side dude.

[e30G]

Its not the same war on Horus, tatics need adjusted a little bit. So veteran RA players are NOOBS here until they learn how its different.

As someone who came from Ra, I can tell you what is different. War in Ra is much harder than any war in Horus. Players there are more skilled and they generally know how to play their classes better than people in Horus. Of course there are some bright players in Horus, but those are probably an endangered species.

[Lostican]

As someone who came from Ra, I can tell you what is different. War in Ra is much harder than any war in Horus. Players there are more skilled and they generally know how to play their classes better than people in Horus. Of course there are some bright players in Horus, but those are probably an endangered species.

Probably true what you say. I'm not doubting a RA players ability, I'm RA myself too. But my first week or so going into the war zone was very different. Yeah, its still the same fight.....but where you go, how you choose to defend, and where to defend is quite different. Most of the time, there isn't enough of us to put up a good fight. That is because, I see two lvl 50's, and 5 very easys helping me. Ohh, and the 4 "no challenge" pt's that just showed up to help.

But if were just to lazy, as someone stated earlier, then I guess my effort is wasted. Ignis then will always be stonger, cause I don't think they are lazy, and many will just quit or go to the other realm so they don't loose all the time. NOBODY likes losing ALL the time.

I've said my opinion, I will not defend it anymore, take my words or leave them, that is your choice.

Lostican out....

[UmarilsStillHere]

I moved to Horus a few months back because I am tired of not understanding most of the community. (syrtis) So now I have made my first lvl 50 on horus. However, now that I can understand everyone, they drive me crazy!

Because I can't get my opinion out in realm chat, I shall do it here.

TO THOSE OF 50TH LVL

You are our leaders weather you like it or not. All those below you will look at you as the more powerful soldier. Please start acting like leaders! Getting mad at noobs will not make them understand. It will only detour them from being positive and confident. If your bored, stop looting and go help lower levels get higer. If you see someone doing somthing totally noobish and stupid, FIND A BETTER WAY TO TELL THEM!

We are all fusterated, but getting mad will only make matters worse!

If someone just plain dosnt understand even when you explain in the simpilest possible way, or asks you the same question 5 times in a day, then its the newbs fault not the lvl 50 :P

TO THOSE OF 49TH-42ND

You are on the cusp of greatness. But you are not yet powerful enough to handle everyone and everything. Even 50's can't do that. So don't get to thinking you should be listened too like your the expert. IDC if you have 10 lvl 50's on RA, Horus is a totally different animal, and your tatics in RA just won't work here. (for the most part) You should shut up, and listen to the more expierenced players when it comes time for war or invasion. Just simply, shut up.

I have played Ra for 7 or so months, and Horus since the day it launced (I was in the top 10 first people to log in ^^) beucase I have 2 mind 40 chars instead or one lvl 50 is my advice worth less? Surely haveing been at more battles, and knowing more classes gives a better veiw of the world than spending all your time grinding to 50, then getting there with no idea how to play.


TO THOSE 30th-41st

You barely even belong in war or invasion. But we have so few on Horus, you help is appreciated. But your ideas of what to do are not. Ask questions to learn by all mean, but do not expect anyone to follow you off into battle just because you said CHARGE! Don't complain, just take your licks and keep grinding. You really can do nothing for us except being cannon fodder. IF you start wailing your opinion around during wartime, you WILL disrupt what we are trying to achomplish.

30+ conjus are allways nice, and other classes will make a impact as well, would you say no to a lvl 37 knight with lvl 5 auras? Some do have combat expericance as many are alts of other players, which they bring instead of their main for some reason, but for the most part they are better off watching and learning than taking up the role of general as soon as they hit 30

TO THOSE 29 and below

You need to be training, not goofing off in the War Zone. Not chatting all day long spamming the chat log. yes, you wanna see what its like, fine, just go and see, then go back to your training. Don't stay too long, because every second YOU spend NOT training, is another minute WE will spend suffering from being outnumbered.
I dont mind them comeing to have a look, but they should be grinding I aggree ^^

TO EVERYONE OF SRYTIS

Stop being impossible, start working together. Only good things will come from it. Ignis has invaded us how many times? Stolen our gems?

Anyone sick of this yet???

Syrtis works pretty well when everyone aggrees on a leader, Arwen for example has done very well several times, but if we have AWD, Tigerous, Arwen, etc... all arguing over the best way to do things... Fail :superpusso:
[/QUOTE]TRAIN SRYTIS....for the love of the elven gods (alt. ones too) ....>TRAIN!

there, see now, I feel better already! lol[/QUOTE]

I do, when I can

A, Be bothered
B, Not much else is going on :)
C 46-48 is a real morale breaker :lightsabre:

I have never been apart of any fort war or invasion where a 25th lvl won the war for us.

I remember takeing forts with ONLY >lvl 25's back when the server launched (this was pre-fort update though) we took shana with 5 lvl 10's and a lvl 30 (mast scroll) ^^

Also have you never had one high conju and one low one, high one dies, low one Rezzes, to me thats a significant contribution.

[-ltl-]

I have never been apart of any fort war or invasion where a 25th lvl won the war for us.

Well he meant the strategy?

[-Edge-]

Generally Horus fighting is totally different, as different trends are there. But a lvl 50 from Ra thats moved onto Horus if anything has evolved the system, most of the Ra players have carved the way for new players, it is only different from Ra since they are isolated into different tactics.

Why do we still use terms like aca and pb, pn, pp with Horus? Its because the Ra players have carried on their trends including battle styles. How can you say a lvl 50 from Ra is a noob lol?

Syrtis dosen't get it, its not about getting every little fish into the game, though that is important too. No your faults lie with mega uncoordination, you usually do not help each other, like dracus said, everyone picks her/her own target and just fights. When we fight over here everyone knows their role, its depending on their class, seems like where the grass is greener everyone is just "Durrrrrr, kill?" Its interesting reading this thread though, seems like an emo breakdown over there on what to do.

The problem dosen't change because you've grown into this kind of system for so long, that whenever a new fresh player comes he gets used to the system as well. And like I said in another thread, although Ignis has nooo problem at all with Syrtis feeding us RP :biggrin: Really you would have better odds with Alsuis, I don't understand, if you are as shit as you are allies then invading each other should be easy. Moreover Alsuis has been seeming like the pet of Syrtis atm, its funny when even if you do invade oneday, do you know where Syrtis will go after Ignis? Yeah, so just keep tugging on the leash of Alsuis Syrtis :sleep_1:

[UmarilsStillHere]

Moreover Alsuis has been seeming like the pet of Syrtis atm, its funny when even if you do invade oneday, do you know where Syrtis will go after Ignis? Yeah, so just keep tugging on the leash of Alsuis Syrtis :sleep_1:

If one day we do invade Ignis then were will we go, Alsius, well duh? If Ignis invades Als do they go to Syrtis after, yes, If Alsius invaded Syrtis where would they go? Ignis? ofc they would.

This last part of your post is very vauge, and I cant get any sence or point out of it :P

Yes Syrtis is hugely uncordinated, but we have our moments, most of the time they are at Samal, dureing one charge I had 3 other barbs targeting the same Ignis that I did again and again and again, we dropped about 6 Ignis in about 15 seconds, If only it could be like that more often :/

Yet more often than not, Ill agree that people will target people they Dont like, or easy Rp targets, than acctual vital targets like Conjus, Warlocks, etc. Also rarely does a Syrtis plan survive first contact, we can prioritise targets tell X marks to follow X mark's DS's but most of the time as soon as someone gets hit they will break off from the main target and shoot their attacker.

[Inkster]

Ohh, I'm sorry inkster, I didn't realize YOU were not fusterated. So I retract my previous statement.....it should say this....

We are all fusterated...except Inkster... :angel2:

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit :P you will find a hell of a lot of people are not fusterated within this game :D

[-Edge-]

If one day we do invade Ignis then were will we go, Alsius, well duh? If Ignis invades Als do they go to Syrtis after, yes, If Alsius invaded Syrtis where would they go? Ignis? ofc they would.

This last part of your post is very vauge, and I cant get any sence or point out of it :P

I mean then what is the point of having Alsius help you destroy our gate... when you will kill them right when you finish with us. Im talking about the mostly useless point of teaming up, Alsuis' fault though.

[Znurre]

thats why horus fails, because people like you decide to tell everyone how to play a game any way they like.

good luck.


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Very well said.
In my opinion, you should listen to any valid argument no matter the level of the player.

And to tell people from RA are noobs.... ?
I have seen gameplay on Horus. period.

[UmarilsStillHere]

I get you Edge ;) the invasion "team ups" are rarely planned, they just sort of, happen, I think the goats just want to see Ignis fail :)

Maybe this thread should be called the, Elves, Dark Elves, Goats, Dwarfs, And Humanish people of Horus, after all this sort of thing happens in all realms. (dont deny it)

[-SoL-]

yeah we get noobs and idiots in our realm who everytime a fort is taken lets invade and ask the goats to help! i tell them to stfu! ofc ^^
and when we are invading most of the time they do show up without invitation!
and about invasion in certain periods of the day we fear alsuis more then ignis! they got alot of midgits with poking sticks! :D

[Pendalf]

Hey what are you talking about?
Do you mean any alliance between Syrtis and Alsius? Impossible! I will never can be, forget about this. Bugnum - is a RvR game. Oh, i wanted to say Lagnum. Oh, damn, I mean Regnum.

Last time we tried to invade, I was returning from cs to samal and met on a road little group of goats hunting on us. May be they wanted to help? Well, if so, in deep abysses of their dirty souls.

All syrtians must know: the pay for help from alsius will be fast journey to resurrection altar. The same is for goats, you know.

To syrtians: just think a little bit: see group of enemies, warlocks cast sultar, conjus - sanctuary, archers drain hp from bodies under green sculls, warriors run there and cast their stun-knock areas and finish survivers. It's a simple, 2 hours to understand, one hour to train.

[fluffy_muffin]

conjus - sanctuary,
^^ yeah. LOL ok now that is the tactic!

[-Edge-]

Also rarely does a Syrtis plan survive first contact, we can prioritise targets tell X marks to follow X mark's DS's but most of the time as soon as someone gets hit they will break off from the main target and shoot their attacker.
This.

I think this is a big thing, its very simple to break down Syrtis. You just hit one weak link in the chain and it all falls apart (someone starts to run, people follow him, rush, people follow him, etc.) the problem? There are alot of weak links in the chain.

For example yesterday at Samal, it started to topple just off one person, im not blaming anyone here, but first we killed Mariusz I think it was, and then "theregnumboss" went in to rez him, he rezzed him, but then we rekilled them, then we killed theregnumboss, and then Galynn went in to rez theregnumboss and it didn't go as planned. (Not making fun of you Gal, you're one of the best conju's in ROL period :P) Anyway my point is, all it took was the death of an important target to spark the death of another, then eventually we overtook Samal after that key point.

[Pendalf]

Wow, Galynn and theboss couldnt heal Mariush. =o They both can instantly restore 900 hp each 5 seconds plus regenerate +40hp at least (if their GH was on cd or out of range or sanctuary on).

YES, zielski. Two conjus was killed. THis just mean that they didnt use sanctuary.

What we want from 40-49???

[e30G]

This.

I think this is a big thing, its very simple to break down Syrtis. You just hit one weak link in the chain and it all falls apart (someone starts to run, people follow him, rush, people follow him, etc.) the problem? There are alot of weak links in the chain.

For example yesterday at Samal, it started to topple just off one person, im not blaming anyone here, but first we killed Mariusz I think it was, and then "theregnumboss" went in to rez him, he rezzed him, but then we rekilled them, then we killed theregnumboss, and then Galynn went in to rez theregnumboss and it didn't go as planned. (Not making fun of you Gal, you're one of the best conju's in ROL period :P) Anyway my point is, all it took was the death of an important target to spark the death of another, then eventually we overtook Samal after that key point.

Actually, I have no idea how he got killed on a revive 5. Either he buffed in the middle of you all or his proximity to the fort cancelled dizzy.

And Pendalf, FYI, I chose not to join the people rushing Ignis. The hunters already called out their numbers. There were a lot of them by that time. I did what was tactically reasonable at the time, and that was to stay in the fort and wait for them to come. We told them to come back but did they? Nah.... Edge is definitely right here.

The turning point was when people started rushing blindly because they want their share of RPs.

[ieti]

Pendalf learn NOT to rely on sanctuary. This is nasty spell that should be used with caution. It is life saver yes, but it can be cancelled, and it puts to you too many restrictions when it is casted.

[Pornstar]

And some ppl upgraded samal, when we actually didnt use it for that war. Ignis killed us 1 by 1 then we left only a few in fort and was easy to stole your gold. Pls next time guys do upgrade again, ignis want it!

[Quincebo]

i do think that syrtis had way more lower lvls (25-35) then ignis, tho they can outnumber us in their peak hours.
I'm only asking to the lvls 1-35 to grind a lot,and espacially mages and knights, because we lack damage takers and mages both locks and conjus.
i know its boring sometimes and you wanna hunt/war a lot but i only think youl be need maybe if we get invaded or we attempt an invasion.
Just get your ass to your grind spot and start grinding and when you turn 50, you can hunt/war as much as you can.

ty:razz:

[Aries202]

Speaking to the thread starter(didnt want to read everything) just because your lvl 50 now, a non lvl 50 player should listen to you, just because your so called more experienced just for hitting 50? Ra and horus arent different in anyway, when it comes to invasion, just Ra is more active then horus, for now...A lvl 40 can know more then you. Shoot, even a lvl 30 can know more then you.

Stop acting all mighty because your lvl 50 now. Though, do helping the lower lvls is a better idea, but forcing them to listen to lvl 50s meh. Being lvl 50 doesnt make you the top dog of the realm.:closed2:

[SmUrV]

In Ignis we rarely talk except to say "aca" then a direction. When the fight actually stars there is no talking except the annoying few who yell "HEALS" or "MANA." Occasionally we say things to keep everyone grouped, but for the most part there is no talking when actually fighting, rarely anything is planned. :D


Also, if this thread is what Syrtis chat is like I feel sorry for you as a realm.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Ill post a screen of Syrtis chat sometime :P

[e30G]

Nah better yet... come over and hang out! It can be entertaining at times. :P

[Caelia]

And totally aggravating ^^ lol

[UmarilsStillHere]

I remember watching a 2 hour disscaussion about pies with frequent sec jokes, the kind of ones that look like a 8 year old came up with them...

Lets not forget the 1 hour war about "white arrow" being a racist name, even though hes acctualy black...

Oh! And ofc the odd newb every week or so trying to create a clan despite haveing NO IDEA how.

Or people asking where are the Vesper mobs?

I could go on, but its painfull to think about it >_<

[SmUrV]

I remember watching a 2 hour disscaussion about pies with frequent sec jokes, the kind of ones that look like a 8 year old came up with them...

Lets not forget the 1 hour war about "white arrow" being a racist name, even though hes acctualy black...

Oh! And ofc the odd newb every week or so trying to create a clan despite haveing NO IDEA how.

Or people asking where are the Vesper mobs?

I could go on, but its painfull to think about it >_<

We've actually had a similar talk about white arrow, but it only lasted about 5 minutes and we deemed him a white supremacist.

[chris32finney]

Could i come and visit syrtis? it would be cool to say hi to roofus and nightchill etc? (Hathor) you fight good and give me a reason to log in.

[Lostican]

Speaking to the thread starter(didnt want to read everything) just because your lvl 50 now, a non lvl 50 player should listen to you, just because your so called more experienced just for hitting 50? Ra and horus arent different in anyway, when it comes to invasion, just Ra is more active then horus, for now...A lvl 40 can know more then you. Shoot, even a lvl 30 can know more then you.

Stop acting all mighty because your lvl 50 now. Though, do helping the lower lvls is a better idea, but forcing them to listen to lvl 50s meh. Being lvl 50 doesnt make you the top dog of the realm.:closed2:

The main point is not that lvl 50's should tell everyone what to do. The MAIN point is for people to shut up at invasion time. Not talking about small fort wars, or ignis farming events, just when we all get together for a invasion or large scale fort wars.

I never said 50's know more, just that they will have a tendancy to do better in the battle. Lower levels die fast, and distract our conjurs from healing the people they should be healing.

I am not acting all mighty, I'm the last one who wants to lead....I just want us to put our best effort forward. Cant' do that if everyone argues and has no clue what we are trying to accomplish.

Dang, don't take much to start drama around here does it?????

[Nightchill]

first and foremost (i had a nervous breakdown while reading this), it's not FUSTERATED!!!!! FUSTERATED DOES NOT EXIST, hence Inkster's remarks. It's fucking FRUSTRATED!!! lustican pm 210paul and arrange a grammar lesson ASAP.

as for all this leadership crap, it's not like we vote for leader of the day, if a leader arises in the given situation then cool, but forcing someone to play like you want is not cool, no one likes to get bossed around since it just pisses people off.

-Nightchill, lvl 50 syrtis warlock messiah. All hail.

[Lostican]

first and foremost (i had a nervous breakdown while reading this), it's not FUSTERATED!!!!! FUSTERATED DOES NOT EXIST, hence Inkster's remarks. It's fucking FRUSTRATED!!! lustican pm 210paul and arrange a grammar lesson ASAP.


Its...ummm.....Lostican, not lustican.

[Nightchill]

Its...ummm.....Lostican, not lustican.
it's offtopic, that's what it is. control your trolling habits.

[Aries202]

I dont understand what your trying to say. Though you are making it seem as if, if your not lvl 50, your just a waste of time. I get this from your post, low lvls are distractions to conjurs on who they have to heal...Conjurs choose who to heal, lower lvls doesnt distract anyone. A lvl 50 can fight just as bad as anyone lvl 50 or not. I've seen it, im sure we all have seen it. Shoot i can name countless times on how many times i died to people not lvl 50. I can even name a lot of lower lvls I'd rather listen to then a lvl 50 person. Level doesnt mean anything in this game, all lvl changes in this game is what skills you can have at a time.

So please, your remark shouldnt just go to lower lvls, theres surely enough lvl 50s that you should talk to also.

[_dracus_]

I dont understand what your trying to say. Though you are making it seem as if, if your not lvl 50, your just a waste of time. I get this from your post, low lvls are distractions to conjurs on who they have to heal...Conjurs choose who to heal, lower lvls doesnt distract anyone. A lvl 50 can fight just as bad as anyone lvl 50 or not. I've seen it, im sure we all have seen it. Shoot i can name countless times on how many times i died to people not lvl 50. I can even name a lot of lower lvls I'd rather listen to then a lvl 50 person. Level doesnt mean anything in this game, all lvl changes in this game is what skills you can have at a time.

So please, your remark shouldnt just go to lower lvls, theres surely enough lvl 50s that you should talk to also.

Oh yeah how many times lower level learnt me things some comes up with really original ways sometimes .

[-SoL-]

Could i come and visit syrtis? it would be cool to say hi to roofus and nightchill etc? (Hathor) you fight good and give me a reason to log in.

Sure Come Visit :)

[Angelwinged_Devil]

make love not war with the green elves of syrtis <3 take the shoulder of your brother before the fight and let's show the others how to do it right \m/


Syrtis works pretty well when everyone aggrees on a leader, Arwen for example has done very well several times, but if we have AWD, Tigerous, Arwen, etc... all arguing over the best way to do things... Fail
or idiots/noobs who tell people to shut up when they give some kind of idea, even if a new player tries to give some kind of idea some others are fast to tell him to shut the fuck up. Just explain nicely, how hard can it be to say "sorry won't work because of blah blah blah" or "I'll explain later after we have fought why it won't work"

[UmarilsStillHere]

I think that what we can take away from this is that being a low lvl wont mean your a Idiot, It means you dont grind as often as others, eg Me ^^

I have been here since about 20 seconds after horus launched, does that means I "know" more about the server that someone who started a month or 2 ago and did a solid grind to 50 in that time. Ofc I do,

On the other hand there are people lower than me who are more Wz active, so they would know more than me (sort of)

And then there are those both higher and more experianced, but thats rare I find :P

To sum up, your combat level means NOTHING when it comes to stratagies, the only thing cmb lvl shows is that you can kill some Idiot mobs and dont bore very easily :P

[Lostican]

eee god man . . . . the MAIN point is we need to get along and follow "leadership"

[Torin_Ironfist]

Nonono, keep fighting and spread the rps.

[-SoL-]

Nonono, keep fighting and spread the rps.

too bad you don't get none ^^

[Pendalf]

Anyway, I have no doubt i will enter Syrtis portal sometimes.

Hehehe, oracle said true...:fsm:

After that vicrotious 5 (or 6?) hours war I just figure out that only way for Syrtis to learn how to invade is invade and invade again.

Mega-respect to Arwen, she is really a great leader. Isemon acts pretty cool too. It seems that conjurers rulezzzz. ^^

[Altara]

You barely even belong in war or invasion. But we have so few on Horus, you help is appreciated. But your ideas of what to do are not.

I do not entirely agree, though, yes lower levels should not come in and try to lead, they are entitled to their opinion and what they think should be done, whether people agree with them or not.

And yes Syrtis does have some Issues, But I find that it is more fun, then the over ruling in ignus, which Is why I left. I dont feel bossed in Syrtis, which makes it more enjoyable. But, sometimes I feel we have to much freedom, and to much stuborness for our own good. Even the higher levels argue amungst themselves over what to do next, and if they dont agree a fight starts, which divides Syrtis tremendously.

[n4gh4sh]

And yes Syrtis does have some Issues, But I find that it is more fun, then the over ruling in ignus, which Is why I left. I dont feel bossed in Syrtis, which makes it more enjoyable. But, sometimes I feel we have to much freedom, and to much stuborness for our own good. Even the higher levels argue amungst themselves over what to do next, and if they dont agree a fight starts, which divides Syrtis tremendously.

I play in Ignis for some time now and I really don't know what's ur talking about when u say there's over ruling in Ignis?
What's the point in argueing at all? It may only make a bigger group divide and decrease chances of survive/victory.

Btw isn't it sometimes better when we have a different opinion, to say "What do you think about doing this/that.." instead of "Do this/that.." ? It makes ppl think about the idea and sounds much less argueing.

[Lostican]

I never played any other realm, so don't know how it is there. I also do not want to be bossed around. Yes, of course, the expierence of the player does not always represent the lvl of the player. But as our opening of the portal demonstrates, you just can't do it without leaders.

Anpu showed what it takes. I didn't hear him boss anyone around. He did exactly what a leader should do. Once we all stuck to his plan, we won. The first attempts on Imperia were unorganized and we were all running like crazed "infected" chickens. Once the leaders got back control, we claimed the castle and fortified it.

[dejan]

I just do not agree with anything that has been written in the original message. You cannot judge quality of a character only by his level. There are guys who came to level 50 in 2 months, and guys who play RO for nearly a year, and still haven't reached level 50.

Moreover, just look around and you will see many dumb lvl 50 players. They just weren't lazy, they grinded, and that is all.

Another issue is - even if you are level 30 - you WILL NOT (and it is absolutely OK, IMHO) follow orders of a level 50 char whom you have NEVER seen before, or fought with. It is just a natural behaviour and is completely normal.

Congratulations on your lvl 50, but if you are about to give me some order, I would just ignore it, because I have never seen your in our fights on Horus! - I would rather follow orders of a player who is 20 levels lower than me, if I have seen that player in many fights and know for sure he or she knows what is (s)he doing.

That is all

[Lostican]

Ha ha ha, this post is out of control.

Some of my opinions have changed since writing the original post, but!...

You CAN NOT invade without leaders.

A Lvl 30 will do NOTHING to help invade except be cannon fodder.

If you are a lvl 30, and your just so expierenced, then why aren't you on with your higher level??? You can play lvl 30's all year long, and you still DON"T know what it takes to win.

Even if you have 1 lvl 50, your still not qualified if thats the only class you have ran. A true expierenced player in this game will have ran many of the classes, so they know what each is capable of.

This is not totally about lvls people, its about communicating and working together as a team.

Why some of you think you must keep repeating that "nobody wants bossed around" is beyond me. This is NOT about bossing, its about leading, and for the noobs to SHUT UP during INVASION and LARGE SCALE wars.

Oh, and BTW, if some of you lower levels would maybe train more, we would have more active lvl 50's and this post would not even be needed.

(last paragraph is really directed to the United States time zones. I realize during my day while I work, that there are plenty of lvl 50's in our realm.)

It seems a few in our realm are great leaders. Especially the ones mentioned in this post. But I just don't see them on when I play. When I play (eastern time zone), its mostly 30-45th lvls.

[_Enio_]

You CAN NOT invade without leaders.

I disagree.

You cannot successfully invade without Coordination. Its not about "awesome plans" wich only the most intelligent could work out. The problem is to get the masses following one Idea. That you get easiest with some known name eg. Draconic Gem. But you could get it easily done too with good clans working together.

You need a decent Coordinator to win a uneven fight, thats true, but i didnt see an invasion yet where a smaller group (smaller in power not numbers) successfully invaded the bigger one.


For me it is not following someones "commands". It is "accepting" someone to coordinate actions.. like giving the Go for areas.. but thats not that kind of "leaderness" what you could also name dictating.

Regards :)

[Anpu]

I never played any other realm, so don't know how it is there. I also do not want to be bossed around. Yes, of course, the expierence of the player does not always represent the lvl of the player. But as our opening of the portal demonstrates, you just can't do it without leaders.

Anpu showed what it takes. I didn't hear him boss anyone around. He did exactly what a leader should do. Once we all stuck to his plan, we won. The first attempts on Imperia were unorganized and we were all running like crazed "infected" chickens. Once the leaders got back control, we claimed the castle and fortified it.
I m really not interested to boss around, nor to be kind of a leader of Syrtis. Being leader just of INQ is enough for me :) But I m here to help whenever I can to my realm. I play in Syrtis almost 2 years, and I can say I really like my realm.

As I d like to stay as much as neutral in any kind of Syrtis leadership, I try to direct INQ in same direction too. When we came, we wanted to share our experience from Ra with Syrtis players, but many found that offensive. So we gave up, not to make any kind of negative atmosphere. But ofc, as some know, we are always open for discussion, sharing knowledge, giving tips, advices.. And about "INQ always get Vesper drop", I d like to say that we usually have many players there, and drop goes random. As you can see in last couple Vesper fights, INQ didnt get a drop. ;) It s just sad to see some players putting aside any of our effort to make Syrtis better place and launching poisoned arrows into our direction. I hope they ll understand soon that game is designed to have fights btw realms, not btw clans.

About organizing invasion, I felt we needed it because of terrible situation it was in Syrtis. Realm was falling apart, and I felt we need to do something that will return faith in Syrtis. So, we decided to make first step. But I said and I ll repeat again. INQ did made plans, but Syrtis players managed to make plans true, not just INQ. I was extremely happy when I saw results of invasion. Old players returning from breaks, many people happy, morale was boosted till sky, many low levelers grinding like never before. I was happy to see Syrtis recovered, and that was the best gift for me.

I had idea how we could organize the most unorganized realm in RO history, and I m glad idea worked well. During invasion, I started to write in normal size of letters, till Isemon asked me to write in caps lock, so we could all see my words in the sea of spam. I m sorry if anyone was annoyed of it, but it was necessary.

I think thats all I have to say about all this. Really, I dont need any kind of "medals", or "leadership" status, all I want is Syrtis growing into nice place, full of good players, willing to use tactics, not just zerg, and playing as team, not as bunch of solo players.
:closed2:

[Lostican]

Anpu has a much better way of putting things than I do. :superpusso:

I guess I just hope it continues. The arguments have seemed to decline a little bit. So if that is all that happens, I'll still be happy, its really the arguing about what to do next that drives me nuts.

Most of the time, I just stand there and wait to see where most go, then I just follow the bigger group. I have ideas, but I don't say them most of the time because all it seems to do is add to the spam. Type in all caps, or in diff. color, yes, a good idea there, I had no problems with it.

Really, in the end, I want everyone (even the other realm players) to have fun. If your not having fun, then what is the point?

[hern101210]

I agree that we lose alot at night (USA time) and really just stand around cs getting killed all night by iggies camping CS, but when i get to play during the day when most of our players are on it is really different. It's is a much more fun game (even when i die) to have good even fights with the goats. I have come to love fighting them during the day no matter the outcome. And I have really started to hate playing at night when iggies camp us all night. But it is a game and i guess they are trying to have fun during their peak hours. But for me i see no point in killing or invading a bunch of lower levs that you outnumber to start with. But when they start this i just go inside gate and chat with friends and grind. Sorry Iggies you will have to find your RP's else where :(

And yes Boss (Anpu) you need medal. One that says "Zerg Tamer" :)

Sydney