The problem with Syrtis

[Thrillem]

I hear many people saying that syrtis is overpopulated and indeed it is but (a big but) the problem is that Syrtis is constantly overpopulated with new people. In all the time that i play here I have seen constantly new people coming and going and only a few remain. So lots of people come daily to Syrtis and lots of people stopt playing at syrtis daily, thats the "overpopulation" people talk about.
While (specially) Ignis manage to keep lots of their high level players, Syrtis has to do it with a handfull of them. Since I play I still see the same experienced players of Ignis while almost all the experienced players of Syrtis have dissapeared, often to go to other realms.
Why? because of their frustration. Imagine 2 or 3 experienced players going to (re)capture a fort with 8 or 9 players around lvl 30 (!), As you can imagine it is not possible to continuosly explain tactics over and over again, day after day, month after month, to new people so after a while I noticed that experienced players stop talking at all.
Really Syrtis is a chaos, like a giant without head, just because of that enormous coming and going of new people...
So lots of people but mostly inexperienced.

[Znurre]

The real problem with Syrtis:

http://80.86.67.101/stuff/surak.jpg

Translation: The problem with Syrtis is it's filled with people thinking they know everything when in fact they know nothing.

(Sorry, I just had to xD)

[Inkster]

xD classic


you must spead more blah blah blah before giving it to Znurre again ^^

[Thrillem]

The real problem with Syrtis:

http://80.86.67.101/stuff/surak.jpg

Translation: The problem with Syrtis is it's filled with people thinking they know everything when in fact they know nothing.

(Sorry, I just had to xD)

That's right Znurre and that is because of what I said: Syrtis is filled constantly with new people (who leave again after a short while).

[UmarilsStillHere]

Are you on about Horus? If so most of the core players have been around a while, to name a few;

Me, Bulgaro, Xia, Meleage, Namus, Tsukuyomi (and the rest of INQ basically) Gawyn, Gwyn, Isemon, Rios, Dark Wind, Punti, Jesus, I could go on and on and on, syrtis has a lot of veteran players, the other realms are just underpopulated now.

I dont consider syrtis overpopulated because compared to Ra syrtis we are still small, its not a problem that syrtis has many players, the issue is that other realms dont have enough.

[Klutu]

lol @ Znurre :P


Uma you should hop on a Alsius noob and come take a look when Syrtis is zerging us you willl ragequit xD

[Gawyn_Trakkand]

Are you on about Horus? If so most of the core players have been around a while, to name a few;

Me, Bulgaro, Xia, Meleage, Namus, Tsukuyomi (and the rest of INQ basically) Gawyn, Gwyn, Isemon, Rios, Dark Wind, Punti, Jesus, I could go on and on and on, syrtis has a lot of veteran players, the other realms are just underpopulated now.

I dont consider syrtis overpopulated because compared to Ra syrtis we are still small, its not a problem that syrtis has many players, the issue is that other realms dont have enough.

I'm a Vet!!??? WOOT FOR ME!! :P

but yeah i have to agree alot of syrtis's problems are as Surak says.
I'm no gonna name names but they are the guys who want to get alsius's gates in danger when there are 5 core players online XD

[impp]

I hear many people saying that syrtis is overpopulated and indeed it is but (a big but) the problem is that Syrtis is constantly overpopulated with new people. In all the time that i play here I have seen constantly new people coming and going and only a few remain. So lots of people come daily to Syrtis and lots of people stopt playing at syrtis daily, thats the "overpopulation" people talk about.
While (specially) Ignis manage to keep lots of their high level players, Syrtis has to do it with a handfull of them. Since I play I still see the same experienced players of Ignis while almost all the experienced players of Syrtis have dissapeared, often to go to other realms.
Why? because of their frustration. Imagine 2 or 3 experienced players going to (re)capture a fort with 8 or 9 players around lvl 30 (!), As you can imagine it is not possible to continuosly explain tactics over and over again, day after day, month after month, to new people so after a while I noticed that experienced players stop talking at all.
Really Syrtis is a chaos, like a giant without head, just because of that enormous coming and going of new people...
So lots of people but mostly inexperienced.

Couldn't agree more....

You have noobs running around shouting "samal, samal" all the time; most die before getting anywhere near it.

I am amazed by the ones that spend all day going back and forth between Algaros and Trelle when all the Alsius gems have been captured by Ignis - they spend hours camping the Trelle save.

The level of organisation and communication in Syrtis is appalling.

A lot of the lvl50 Syrtis have given up on war and just go hunting all day. They only attack forts when the gates are in danger. I find attacking forts a pain in the neck - when I'm not getting spammed by clan invites when I'm trying to heal, I'm getting spammed by chats from dead lvl30 noobs wanting resurrect when they should be back in fisgael learning which end of the sword they should be holding.

[Klutu]

just because a realm has no gems doesnt mean you shouldn't fight them.. Invasions arn't the only part of this game and never should be

[Domino_]

I hear many people saying that syrtis is overpopulated and indeed it is but (a big but) the problem is that Syrtis is constantly overpopulated with new people. In all the time that i play here I have seen constantly new people coming and going and only a few remain. So lots of people come daily to Syrtis and lots of people stopt playing at syrtis daily, thats the "overpopulation" people talk about.
While (specially) Ignis manage to keep lots of their high level players, Syrtis has to do it with a handfull of them. Since I play I still see the same experienced players of Ignis while almost all the experienced players of Syrtis have dissapeared, often to go to other realms.
Why? because of their frustration. Imagine 2 or 3 experienced players going to (re)capture a fort with 8 or 9 players around lvl 30 (!), As you can imagine it is not possible to continuosly explain tactics over and over again, day after day, month after month, to new people so after a while I noticed that experienced players stop talking at all.
Really Syrtis is a chaos, like a giant without head, just because of that enormous coming and going of new people...
So lots of people but mostly inexperienced.

Yes very nice and very wrong, thats not the problem at all! What you are saying is that syrtis have many ppl cose high lvl players are leaving and newbies reamain? Wake up dude! Im wondering if you are talking about horus or ra, neither of those is the case tho, you might be talking about german servers, tyr or perhaps amun?
People were leaving the game since beta, leaving all realms the % is the same, so you are 101% wrong.
Regards ?

[Thrillem]

Yes, I am talking about Horus; I forgot to mention it, sorry. Domino says that this coming and going of new people happens in all the realms. Yes of course but not with the intensity of Syrtis.
Umaril says that there are a lot of "vets" in Syrtis. I know those names but you can only see them when someone shouts "Vesper" or "Eve" and sometimes -as Impp says- when our gates are in danger. If there are so many vets why cannot we put the other realms gates more often in danger? With so many vets we should, right? The level of communication in Syrtis, Horus is a chaos as Impp says, with lots of new people shouting orders when they reach level 30.

[e30G]

Because most of the "vets" are bored with invasions and simply won't be bothered to try it.

[Thrillem]

Because most of the "vets" are bored with invasions and simply won't be bothered to try it.

Maybe you could explain us why the "vets" are bored with invasions...

[ncvr]

Maybe you could explain us why the "vets" are bored with invasions...
It may have something to do with the fact that they suck and they're boring.

[Thrillem]

It may have something to do with the fact that they suck and they're boring.

So, the "vets" prefer to remain inactive? it seems to me more boring....

[e30G]

So, the "vets" prefer to remain inactive? it seems to me more boring....

No we do other things. Some of us returned to Ra while some prefer smaller scale bridge fights or open field fights. Some grind alts, and that's why you only see their more well known "mains" during boss fights.

[linearguild]

So, the "vets" prefer to remain inactive? it seems to me more boring....

That's a false dilemma and faulty logic. There's many things to do in between putting gates in danger and idling at CS all day.

Personally I'd take an interesting bridge war/group hunt/fort war over any invasion attempt. I do think it would be nice to invade for an XP bonus to help our newbies, and I do think that Syrtis needs to be trying more often just for fun, but constantly trying to put someone's gate in danger isn't my idea of fun. So I'm not going to stress out if an invasion doesn't happen.

[NotScias]

I agree that Syrtis is constantly filled with noobs but Syrtis has also got a bigger "Veteran players" base than the other realms...
Anyways, a lot of our players go to alsius/ignis while it's rare to see alsius/ignis players coming to Syrtis.

Me, Bulgaro, Xia, Meleage, Namus, Tsukuyomi (and the rest of INQ basically) Gawyn, Gwyn, Isemon, Rios, Dark Wind, Punti, Jesus, I could go on and on and on, syrtis has a lot of veteran players

/me cries :crying1:

[Thrillem]

I agree that Syrtis is constantly filled with noobs but Syrtis has also got a bigger "Veteran players" base than the other realms...
Anyways, a lot of our players go to alsius/ignis while it's rare to see alsius/ignis players coming to Syrtis.:

No, Syrtis has not a bigger Vets base, Syrtis has a bigger NEWBIES base. Ignis has a bigger and more experienced Veterans base than us and they know tactics, not like us. That "bigger" Vets base you are talking about is rarely seen in the wz so for me they do not exist.

[UmarilsStillHere]

/me cries :crying1:

Id have put you in Im just to lazy to write out the 30 or so names I could think of :p

Kultu, I rage quit even on syrtis side when we are zerging alsius to much, If you clearly stand no chance its boring as hell, so I go grind or play something else :)

[Arafails]

No, Syrtis has not a bigger Vets base, Syrtis has a bigger NEWBIES base. Ignis has a bigger and more experienced Veterans base than us and they know tactics, not like us. That "bigger" Vets base you are talking about is rarely seen in the wz so for me they do not exist.
Sorry, but that is quite frankly bullshit. Most of Ignis's veterans left long ago. Around about the time we stopped pulling off an invasions every other week, don't know if you were there then?

The only Ignis "vets" I see online frequently are from my own clan (and we are one of the bigger clans, yes, but not that big, and it's by no means all of us). Most of whats on is noobs. This does, yes, include some level 50 noobs.

Mind you I guess if you include Gawyn as a veteran maybe I just haven't kept up to date with who ours are.

[UmarilsStillHere]

No, Syrtis has not a bigger Vets base, Syrtis has a bigger NEWBIES base. Ignis has a bigger and more experienced Veterans base than us and they know tactics, not like us. That "bigger" Vets base you are talking about is rarely seen in the wz so for me they do not exist.

I see plenty of our 'vets' (4/5+ month old level 50 players) in WZ, when Im fighting Ignis or Alsius though there are a lot of old names I no longer see.

Now it may be your opinion that we are more newbies than vets, but if you will carry on arguing the point would you care to offer some sort of proof?

[Thrillem]

I see plenty of our 'vets' (4/5+ month old level 50 players) in WZ, when Im fighting Ignis or Alsius though there are a lot of old names I no longer see.

Now it may be your opinion that we are more newbies than vets, but if you will carry on arguing the point would you care to offer some sort of proof?

The proof can you see with your own eyes if you play every day. Except in some weekends there are mostly newbies in the wz, so if you want proof log in and go to the wz. There you will see some "vets" at CS, some of them are most of the time afk and a few others (the "good" ones) make an effort with mostly newbies to defend or attack a fort.
You can carry on saying that Syrtis has so many vets but if they are not really active in the game, they do not count.
Besides this thread is not about vets but about the fact that the so called "unbalaced population" is just caused by the lots of new people that comes and goes to Syrtis every day.

[Warthog]

The proof can you see with your own eyes if you play every day. Except in some weekends there are mostly newbies in the wz, so if you want proof log in and go to the wz. There you will see some "vets" at CS, some of them are most of the time afk and a few others (the "good" ones) make an effort with mostly newbies to defend or attack a fort.
You can carry on saying that Syrtis has so many vets but if they are not really active in the game, they do not count.
Besides this thread is not about vets but about the fact that the so called "unbalaced population" is just caused by the lots of new people that comes and goes to Syrtis every day.

I see proof of many new players or newer players in both realm and general chat being the ones spamming it. This does not mean that there are not many vets or many of them are inactive. It simply boils down to most people keep quiet because they are busy fighting, they talk in clan chat, or are just tired of trying to repeat the same things on an hourly basis to have 90% of people not even stop long enough to hear out a whole thought or strategy. So yes, not only does syrtis have more new players, we do have more new and old players alike who are WZ active. Just because all players don't jump to rush to take a fort with 5 lvl 30's, or try to put a gate in danger every second of the day...does not mean that syrtis does not have more experienced players then all the other realms online at most (not all) times.

[Mattdoesrock]

Since when does playing for 5 months classify you as a "vet?"

/me facepalms.

[Thrillem]

Since when does playing for 5 months classify you as a "vet?"
I don't know if you are refering to me or to someone else. If you are refering to me I never said I was a "vet". Don't be mislead by a date btw.:smile:

[Mattdoesrock]

I don't know if you are refering to me or to someone else. If you are refering to me I never said I was a "vet". Don't be mislead by a date btw.:smile:

I wasn't referring to anyone inparticular.

[UmarilsStillHere]

level 50 and 10k or so RP is for most people enough to learn how to play there class efficiantly, because lets be honest, in current game state once you hit 50 if you face another person of the same class then gear and dumb luck play more part in the fight than skill. (note skill is still a big factor, someone whos great vs someone who just cant play will always win regardless of gear, though can be trumped by bad luck)

Though where do you draw the line for a 'vet' then, a year? 2? Ive probably just hit my limit as I know players who played shorter time than me but are far better players, but after a few months theres not a whole lot more you can learn, mainly because balance and gameplay changes so much every other month.

Then when does a noob stop being a noob? Level 50's can still play like morons. Some level 37's can play very well after only a month of 2 in game, people get good at differant speeds. Realy, someone playing for 2 years dosnt have any great an advantage over someone playing for say 8 months

[Punti_X]

Last few days I have seen Ignis zerg at Samal, but not Alsius.
Syrtis has bad tactics.
But, we are polishing it.
Still, it is fun to play for me, I find no problems with conj. Just accept your role and behave acording to that (I also have kickass setup).

[Toad_]

just because a realm has no gems doesnt mean you shouldn't fight them.. Invasions arn't the only part of this game and never should be

+1
:wish:

[Kasp1]

The problem of syrtis is that it looks nice and the tons of incoming kids simply like it. After few time of playing they find the game boring and go to another game.

Why you can't put a gate in danger? Cause you are so stucked in one fort camping another outnumbered realm. Who of the fifties wants gems at all? They don't need additional xp, they want just rps. Too much xp bonus just kills the RvR at all.

What exactly is the point of this discussion?

[kylecasey]

syrtis=zerg=no brains=plan to fail=fail to plan and yes our lovely lvl 30 noobs barkin orders in rlm is awesome thats why some of us king noobs (ie me) use the ig wand and dont give a rats arse about invasions, eventually i might get interested when the invasion is fixed LOL. go get those gems and hold them for a month ie Syrtis this last month. any questions? ppl are bored of invasion its plain to see.

[Malik2]

I have been in Syrtis for about a hundred years now and the origional premise of this thread is simply incorrect.

It makes a certain logical sense. But, as was stated earlier every realm looses people in roughly the same percentages. I found pre-level 10 in Alsius could be very boring as you could go for hours and never see another person. At the same time, I found going from lvl 10 to lvl 30 easier in Alsius than syrtis by a long shot.

People leave Syrtis (and other realms) now for the same reason they left before...boredom. Regnum is a good game, but after a while it is time to move on and do other things with your life.

The last few nights Syrtis has had some spamming morons on realm chat constantly. I give them a few more days maybe weeks, then they will be gone.

Anyway, syrtis simply has more people at every level then the other realms, more at the bottom, purbably much more, and more at the top. And with that we still act like we don't know what we are doing. I was on Ra last week and saw an ancient syrtis tactic in action. A zerg of 30 was at PB, somone tracked a single hunter and 15 guys ran after him. Same same same. It was like I had never left to play on Horus, what, a year ago?

I would ramble more but I'm not.

[LoveleHaven]

The real problem with Syrtis:

http://80.86.67.101/stuff/surak.jpg

Translation: The problem with Syrtis is it's filled with people thinking they know everything when in fact they know nothing.

(Sorry, I just had to xD)

Huh Surak you traitor :O