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Miraculix
02-14-2011, 02:34 PM
http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Poster-warmasters.jpg
http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/14/introducing-regnum-warmasters/
Fucking teasers... I hate you NGD :p
Thoughts?
Matrak
02-14-2011, 02:35 PM
Holy sh*t!
_Enio_
02-14-2011, 02:36 PM
Well yea, some more info would be nice.. :P
Truewar
02-14-2011, 02:37 PM
WARMASTER: Stand up Alsius! We have to invade Syrtis and Ignis!
Alsius: F**K Off! There is a dragon time.
Knekelvoeste
02-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Oh my GOD!!!!! This looks awesome! xD
Latan
02-14-2011, 02:42 PM
yes...and so?
I expect teasers upon teasers this week to hype it so I will just neglect the whole lot and have a look at the full picture on the 20th.
The 21st will tell the true tale of this.
If something goes on Amun I will probably have a look. I wish them best of luck with their expansion. I reserve any speculation at this point. It is just too vague.
Side note : They did say today was the date of the start of the announcement (not delivery).
Artec
tarashunter
02-14-2011, 02:46 PM
not understood anything....so to have that wepon armour etc you must invade enemy??
What the hell....the upčdate was not today?????
Brb......
Some kind of reward system coupled with the Top Player of the Week. Where he or she would get an extra skill tree with powers useful to rally the troops, aura's, motivate, blahblahblah, for the duration of a week.
</wild_guess>
WhateverUSMC
02-14-2011, 03:02 PM
No idea what's going on, but from the description, it sounds exciting! Looking forward to it. :)
HuntShot
02-14-2011, 03:06 PM
So what do they mean with warmaster?
I heard some rumours it's the new expansion's name but also a new class?
Anybody who could clear this up for me?
Dracice
02-14-2011, 03:07 PM
/me got confuse 5:bangin:
Seher
02-14-2011, 03:09 PM
Some kind of reward system coupled with the Top Player of the Week. Where he or she would get an extra skill tree with powers useful to rally the troops, aura's, motivate, blahblahblah, for the duration of a week.
</wild_guess>
Most likely. No special offensive abilities, a bit more defence and some decent group buffing, that's it. I highly doubt it will come out differently. :P
(Just like the huge avatars we've seen in events, implemented a bit better and without boss degollador though xD)
oh and the new currency mentioned in ask ngd is used to buy let's say a week of being a war master, most likely you'll need 4-40 or even more weeks to collect enough of it, meaning even the most successful item whore can't always be a war master which is effectively sucking up their whole cash if they try to anyway. A better version of magna weapons because it's consumable and more "shiny" without being imbalanced. Well that's just my guessing, but it's the way I'd do it =P
This expansion will fix the economy and bring a lot more fun to farming addicts, the others won't be touched by this directly. It will increase the war zone action as well I suppose, all that stuff. My prediction. :P
/edit: Normal players will finally get their repair costs refunded via battles. :P
_Arwen_
02-14-2011, 03:13 PM
Sounds interesting BUT...
Can you fix the first expansion first?
BUG: Wishes not given out
Invasion mechanics flawed
No one knows how invasions work at any one time (seriously... document this and make sure its working the way you say it does!)
etc...
And before you fix the first expansion can you fix the core game?
Realm-Timezone imbalance
Realm item imbalance
Missing/broken quests
Absurd XP curve
Lack of use for gold
etc...
I'm skeptical... this just seems like a way to introduce new bugs that will never be fixed to me. I hope it works out for the sake of the game and the community.
Truewar
02-14-2011, 03:18 PM
Some kind of reward system coupled with the Top Player of the Week. Where he or she would get an extra skill tree with powers useful to rally the troops, aura's, motivate, blahblahblah, for the duration of a week.
</wild_guess>
I think so too...
R_of_WWT
02-14-2011, 03:21 PM
WARMASTER: Stand up Alsius! We have to invade Syrtis and Ignis!
Alsius: F**K Off! There is a dragon time.
It would actually go like this ...
WARMASTER: Stand up Alsius! We have to invade Syrtis and Ignis!
Alsius Hunter 1: I'll attack Ignis but syrtis is where my home boys live ...
Alsius Warlock 1 : I'll attack Syrtis but sorry Ignis is my real home ...
Me : /me face palm
this is my reality >.>
tarashunter
02-14-2011, 03:44 PM
It would actually go like this ...
Alsius Hunter 1: I'll attack Ignis but syrtis is where my home boys live ...
Alsius Warlock 1 : I'll attack Syrtis but sorry Ignis is my real home ...
this is my reality >.>
SUPERLOL never heard something like that.....alsius seems more something like
A- "let's have some war"
B-"yaiiiiiii eh oh let's go!"
A- "omg not manira/algaros again"
B- "man we are not enough to take herb/samal"
the result is that first an enemy show up to menira or alga you must wait 30 min farming 2 lvl 30 that try to retake minor forts alone.
Anyway,if the war master works for the player of the week for sure that update don't touch me.
I will never spend 400k to upgrade a fort....i have no area with my hunter so i will never gain much RP as a knight or a conju,and i have not 70 range as marks that can do 3 time mine rp if i don't go hunt for noobs or grinder,things that i will never do!
So...that update don't touch me i think...bye bye dreams about a fantastic update...
Then collect this new points as magna to have somewhat that still nobody know,that would take me at least 40 week of enemy farm (if is real),is not for me.
Naaaaaaaaaah.
Is not a QQuering but i'm just tired about lost my head to have the best things around....i play a barb and a knight too,and is impossible with my barb gain that reward i think....may be with knight yes,but is too boring as play a conju...this is why i play more the hunter...
Oh....do you know if they nerf marksman range?May be this would be the best surprise for all the others classes about balance... -.-
Topogigio_BR
02-14-2011, 03:45 PM
/me got confuse 5:bangin:
Same :bangin:
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 03:53 PM
"A new breed of warriors"
I think we will see another warrior class. It sounds that way in my opinion.
I donīt think this has something to do with the "Top player" ranking, because
archer and mages will surely not turn into a warmaster. And the "Top player" ranking will be for all people.
Greyman_tle
02-14-2011, 03:54 PM
me also :bangin:
Is the update going on Amun or all servers ?
blog thingy says amun for bug testing - which implies they've added a whole new set of em for us to enjoy :lighten:
But all the servers are off atm so are they doing sumin else as well ?
The lack of definitive information is as always astounding :harhar:
tarashunter
02-14-2011, 04:06 PM
i think the actual server shotdown is just to put on the valentine event or the jewellery quest (i hope!!!:dumbofme: )
As the changelong said warmaster update will be done on the 28 febbr.
At least this is what i understood :S
Xavion
02-14-2011, 04:08 PM
Damn that looks awsome!
Come on, Open the server xD
Wield_II
02-14-2011, 04:12 PM
Sounds interesting BUT...
Can you fix the first expansion first?
BUG: Wishes not given out
Invasion mechanics flawed
No one knows how invasions work at any one time (seriously... document this and make sure its working the way you say it does!)
etc...
And before you fix the first expansion can you fix the core game?
Realm-Timezone imbalance
Realm item imbalance
Missing/broken quests
Absurd XP curve
Lack of use for gold
etc...
I'm skeptical... this just seems like a way to introduce new bugs that will never be fixed to me. I hope it works out for the sake of the game and the community.
True dat, lets just look forward to the incoming updates.
I'm sure NGD wont make the same mistakes over and over. :wink:
Wyatt
02-14-2011, 04:12 PM
Regnum Online Warmasters update will be introduced as said on the Regnum Online Blog on February 21th 2011.
The current changes to the update that is going live right now can be read here - Changelog Version 1.6.7 (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=27&subsec=2).
Regards,
DkySven
02-14-2011, 04:13 PM
As the official site says, at the moment NGD is applying an update to fix some bugs and address a few things they want done before the Warmaster update:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=27&subsec=2
tarashunter
02-14-2011, 04:26 PM
No enemy jewelery :(
Aasiora-Leif
02-14-2011, 04:27 PM
Sounds interesting BUT...
Can you fix the first expansion first?
BUG: Wishes not given out
Invasion mechanics flawed
No one knows how invasions work at any one time (seriously... document this and make sure its working the way you say it does!)
etc...
And before you fix the first expansion can you fix the core game?
Realm-Timezone imbalance
Realm item imbalance
Missing/broken quests
Absurd XP curve
Lack of use for gold
etc...
I'm skeptical... this just seems like a way to introduce new bugs that will never be fixed to me. I hope it works out for the sake of the game and the community.
This is the update I'm looking forward to. Do we have a release date for that?
Pakos
02-14-2011, 04:44 PM
As the official site says, at the moment NGD is applying an update to fix some bugs and address a few things they want done before the Warmaster update:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=27&subsec=2
so some bugfixes are that super hiper big surprise? :confused:
Franz1789
02-14-2011, 04:51 PM
Some kind of reward system coupled with the Top Player of the Week. Where he or she would get an extra skill tree with powers useful to rally the troops, aura's, motivate, blahblahblah, for the duration of a week.
</wild_guess>
I hope not. In my heart I hope something like "you gain rps, you can buy new weapons unreachable in other ways" or "you gain rps you can choose a kind of subclass with an additional skill tree all to pay with rps" or "you reach 1k rps you get a gauntlet, 2k a bp, 5k a helm, and so on".
The latter would increase war partecipation, and imagine a knight with 50k rps that get a shield with bonuses, or a conju with a heavier curing effect or a summon that can't be stolen or stuff like this..
that would be a new breed of warriors, the more you fight and the more you win, the more you get bonuses, a sort of a private first class, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, colonel, general and (noble)...
LucianDeathshield
02-14-2011, 04:59 PM
Imho i think that this is NOT a new warrior class. Why? Well then everyone would make a warmaster >.> and the poster has MAGES AND ARCHERS. Silly people who think its a new warrior class >.>
Sounds interesting BUT...
Can you fix the first expansion first?
BUG: Wishes not given out
Invasion mechanics flawed
No one knows how invasions work at any one time (seriously... document this and make sure its working the way you say it does!)
etc...
And before you fix the first expansion can you fix the core game?
Realm-Timezone imbalance
Realm item imbalance
Missing/broken quests
Absurd XP curve
Lack of use for gold
etc...
I'm skeptical... this just seems like a way to introduce new bugs that will never be fixed to me. I hope it works out for the sake of the game and the community.
+1 enough new useless features, fix old flaws first, i was patient and optimistic, but now it is gone.
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 05:07 PM
and the poster has MAGES AND ARCHERS. Silly people who think its a new warrior class >.>
True.
But in the first sentence, they call them "A new breed of warriors".
"Warrior" is a RO class. And a Doberman for example is a dog breed. You can call it a "subclass" of dog :P
So it seems that a Warmaster is a warrior subclass. Ok, the poster contradicts this...
mr_scsi
02-14-2011, 05:08 PM
a sort of a private first class, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, colonel, general and (noble)...
I can haz god status?:lighten:
tjanex
02-14-2011, 05:09 PM
Uhhu so a new breed of Warriors so now you become warrior and can become, knight, barb, warmaster - some archers, mages, warriors lol that would be total nuts ;P
Knekelvoeste
02-14-2011, 05:09 PM
Rp whores are getting a reward awesome!
Seher
02-14-2011, 05:14 PM
Warriors.... pars pro toto or totum pro parte ? :P
It seems quite logical to me that "warrior" is used to describe all classes in this case.
I love this thread. NGD has you all so twisted that speculations are flying all over the place.
The hype is working. Congrats NGD, you are whipping up fever. Nicely done.
Patience dear friends, patience. The 21st will come faster than you think. But please don't stop the speculating now, the thread is really getting interesting..
Oh and Happy Valentine's Day NGD staff. Tough that you have to work so hard on the day but it is for the love of your game so its all good. All the best !
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 05:16 PM
I hope not. In my heart I hope something like "you gain rps, you can buy new weapons unreachable in other ways" or "you gain rps you can choose a kind of subclass with an additional skill tree all to pay with rps" or "you reach 1k rps you get a gauntlet, 2k a bp, 5k a helm, and so on".
The latter would increase war partecipation, and imagine a knight with 50k rps that get a shield with bonuses, or a conju with a heavier curing effect or a summon that can't be stolen or stuff like this..
that would be a new breed of warriors, the more you fight and the more you win, the more you get bonuses, a sort of a private first class, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, captain, colonel, general and (noble)...
I only want to see temporary rewards. Otherwise this system would be similar
to a runaway greenhouse effect. If you win, you will gain equip. Thereby you will win more, and you will gain more equip...
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 05:25 PM
It seems quite logical to me that "warrior" is used to describe all classes in this case.
Even if "Warrior" is used for all classes here, "breed" isnīt something temporary. Can you call a temporary enhanced knight, barb, marksman... a new breed. I donīt think so. A guide dog (trained/"enhanced" dog) for example isnīt a dog breed.
tallhair
02-14-2011, 05:41 PM
Would be cool if we could combine say two of our chars to make one. For example combine the armor of my knight with the damg power of my lock. Tell me that wouldn't be awesome. http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/images/smilies/lighten.gif
tjanex
02-14-2011, 05:49 PM
;P they: Stay tuned this monday you'll found out (something big is coming) so I think everyone expected the Regnum warmasters was coming and now you let us think about the new stuff that would come monday but it's 21th Februari hahaha that sucks ;P :confused::bangin::bangin::bangin::bangin:
Angel_de_Combate
02-14-2011, 05:56 PM
Looking good, nice work NGD. :eguitar:
Kyrottimus
02-14-2011, 06:06 PM
Sometimes I wonder if NGD isn't staffed by 10 year olds sitting around all hyper on Mountain Dew. Talk about ADHD brainstorming!
http://i55.tinypic.com/1z5stis.jpg
"OMFG! Let's make it have motherf**king Dinosaurs, sharks and EXPLOSIONS! IT'LL BE THE COOLEST THING EVER!"
All joking aside (and yes, I was joking) I would hope that a lot of the core bugs, balance and positioning problems would be addressed first, but I do think RO needs new content to drive war and action.
Let's hope this is it, and that NGD still keeps polishing the core gameplay.
Ilania
02-14-2011, 06:19 PM
I can haz god status?:lighten:
Scias i thought you already were a god? <3
-Karma :hat:
Ilania
02-14-2011, 06:24 PM
Sometimes I wonder if NGD isn't staffed by 10 year olds sitting around all hyper on Mountain Dew. Talk about ADHD brainstorming!
http://img.waffleimages.com/d2500ed1caea000c2542b72cf1820b0af94aeb5d/nuclear_fireball_black_metal_dinosaur_holocaust.jp g
"OMFG! Let's make it have motherf**king Dinosaurs, sharks and EXPLOSIONS! IT'LL BE THE COOLEST THING EVER!"
All joking aside (and yes, I was joking) I would hope that a lot of the core bugs, balance and positioning problems would be addressed first, but I do think RO needs new content to drive war and action.
Let's hope this is it, and that NGD still keeps polishing the core gameplay.
It would only be cool if i could ride one of those dinosaurs like in the flintstones!!!! Explosions are cool just dont blow up my dam dinosaur! I'm gonna name him.....:bounce5425: oops sorry my ADHD kicked in :p
survive
02-14-2011, 06:25 PM
Sometimes I wonder if NGD isn't staffed by 10 year olds sitting around all hyper on Mountain Dew. Talk about ADHD brainstorming!
"OMFG! Let's make it have motherf**king Dinosaurs, sharks and EXPLOSIONS! IT'LL BE THE COOLEST THING EVER!"
I must comment and at the same time try not to get banned....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
i think i just pissed myself! :drums: at least 2 drops came out....
dont think it would be so funny, if it were not soooo fkn true!
Wield_II
02-14-2011, 06:40 PM
Sometimes I wonder if NGD isn't staffed by 10 year olds sitting around all hyper on Mountain Dew. Talk about ADHD brainstorming!
http://i55.tinypic.com/1z5stis.jpg
"OMFG! Let's make it have motherf**king Dinosaurs, sharks and EXPLOSIONS! IT'LL BE THE COOLEST THING EVER!"
All joking aside (and yes, I was joking) I would hope that a lot of the core bugs, balance and positioning problems would be addressed first, but I do think RO needs new content to drive war and action.
Let's hope this is it, and that NGD still keeps polishing the core gameplay.
You blewed my image of surak being a god :(
LucianDeathshield
02-14-2011, 06:45 PM
True.
But in the first sentence, they call them "A new breed of warriors".
"Warrior" is a RO class. And a Doberman for example is a dog breed. You can call it a "subclass" of dog :P
So it seems that a Warmaster is a warrior subclass. Ok, the poster contradicts this...
Warriors can also refer to the people participating in the war.
Knekelvoeste
02-14-2011, 06:56 PM
warriors can also refer to the people participating in the war.
bam!!!!!!!!!!
tallhair
02-14-2011, 06:57 PM
Still think my idea is closer to the extremely vague picture. Observe the lock in knight armor. Think of the many possibility's if you could merge two of your lvl 50 chars to make one all powerful one. Of coarse I'm just getting myself all excited so that i will be disappointed next Monday cant think of any other reason to tell us so little. At least they could give us some sort of idea without giving away to much of there big surprise. :dumbofme::dumbofme:
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 07:14 PM
Warriors can also refer to the people participating in the war.
"Breed" in biology means (sub)race
http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/breeds/ :D
I admit that we canīt be completely sure.
But it seems plausible, that they are talking of a new subclass.
Still think my idea is closer to the extremely vague picture. Observe the lock in knight armor. Think of the many possibility's if you could merge two of your lvl 50 chars to make one all powerful one. Of coarse I'm just getting myself all excited so that i will be disappointed next Monday cant think of any other reason to tell us so little. At least they could give us some sort of idea without giving away to much of there big surprise.
I hope not, this would kill all variety and balance.
If all classes gain a "Warmaster" tree, this might kill balance too. Some classes will gain more of this new tree than others.
I want to have less shared trees (not even more).
tallhair
02-14-2011, 07:19 PM
Not saying I'm even close but if i was every different combination would have to have its own tree set up lock/knight lock/conj barb/knight cong/marks so on and so on.
53453467734534
02-14-2011, 07:25 PM
Not saying I'm even close but if i was every different combination would have to have its own tree set up lock/knight lock/conj barb/knight cong/marks so on and so on.
Donīt like it, sorry.
I am the guy who wants to split Summoner and Healer
(i am not linking it here:D).
Nothing personal, but I am against class combinations.
Lostican
02-14-2011, 07:28 PM
The part in the description about Anum fixes scares me a little. What are they going to do to my dragon wings bow?
:mf_hide:
Knekelvoeste
02-14-2011, 07:35 PM
The part in the description about Anum fixes scares me a little. What are they going to do to my dragon wings bow?
:mf_hide:
Balance it :P
NotScias
02-14-2011, 07:46 PM
Scias i thought you already were a god? <3
-Karma :hat:
LOL mr_scsi is not me !
blood-raven
02-14-2011, 07:50 PM
LOL mr_scsi is not me !
from this day on you are!!
(freaked out yet)
and i think hunters would be more pissed after this "update"
Ulti19
02-14-2011, 07:54 PM
Warmaster knocks his opponent!!!! "you are not facing your enemy" xD
Honestly though, i am excited about some new stuff, but really hope some old stuff gets fixed with it.
Moorhuhn21
02-14-2011, 08:17 PM
NGD promised: we've got something even better than St. Valentine... (from Twitter)
and what did we get? A colorful picture and like 5 confusing sentences...
:dumbofme:
no valentines event, no new content so far...oh wait yeah, the very confusing item level....:confused:
Ilania
02-14-2011, 08:22 PM
LOL mr_scsi is not me !
oops....sorry
Mashu
02-14-2011, 08:27 PM
A 2nd subclass for each class
C1
/
B
/ \ C2
A ---
\ / E1
D
\
E2
with additional unique skills for each class and raised maximal level would really improve uniqueness of each player imho.
Just few more skills that can be obtained only by given sub-sub-class specialization, that's what I am looking forward to. So for example there could be two types of conjurers, two types of marksman etc... each getting a few more unique skills for give sub-sub-class specialization. I wish this update to be like that.
+ Some new content on the map like forts and extended map.
Dream on...
But finally after months of not playing this game I am checking website again to see how this rolls out.
Please don't disappoint me NGD, there are other games waiting...
HidraA
02-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Holly cow they implemented a part from on of my old idea about armors in very old thread opened by Knek...
I will quote myself from that thread...
3-th kind of armor.100k-200k rps.(general or realm)
Condition player must have first and second kind of armor and lvl 50 ofc.
Armors kind:defensive if player get moust of rps from his forts and ofensive if player take moust of rps from enemy forts(war zone).
-Defensive armor:elemenatal-very good,phisical-very good and bonus /piece 2-3% armor.
-Ofensive armor :elemental good,phisical-good.and bonus /piece 2-3%% strght(dex for archers,int for mages).
Visual style diferent like second and bonus aura with 5% atack dmg passive helmet(area 3-5)....
OFC they made better ....but look awesome ....
Original post ...http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=62866&page=2
Original ideea was for to take armors from rps but look they developed idea and made a nice update :)
DkySven
02-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Sometimes I wonder [...] the core gameplay.
As said before, content creators do not fix bugs :bananajoy:
Also, please wait for what the expansion enhances, maybe the core gameplay is affected by it too.
Gigantic-knight
02-14-2011, 10:05 PM
now for sure its a new subclas meh wants barbarians to have UM+AOO xD +another knock xD
Kyrottimus
02-14-2011, 11:00 PM
As said before, content creators do not fix bugs :bananajoy:
Also, please wait for what the expansion enhances, maybe the core gameplay is affected by it too.
Yay! :bounce: :thumb: :theking:
TheMessenger
02-14-2011, 11:14 PM
I dont think that it is going to allow merging of two classes although that would be awesome.
how op would a marks be if they had barb warcry tree :D
ice_zero_cool
02-15-2011, 09:10 AM
I dont think that it is going to allow merging of two classes although that would be awesome.
how op would a marks be if they had barb warcry tree :D
how about a barb with 35+ range? xD :D :dumbofme: :bangin:
Miraculix
02-15-2011, 02:12 PM
New level cap, level 60.
http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/15/what%E2%80%99s-new-in-warmasters-%E2%80%93-part-1/
Matrak
02-15-2011, 02:15 PM
New level cap, level 60.
http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/15/what%E2%80%99s-new-in-warmasters-%E2%80%93-part-1/
I wonder if someone *cough* Syrtis *cough* would suddenly have a shitload of level sixties... :confused:
Pnarpa
02-15-2011, 02:15 PM
New level cap, level 60.
http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/15/what%E2%80%99s-new-in-warmasters-%E2%80%93-part-1/
I... euh... am dissapointed greatly. If nothing has been done about the xp curve or how we're supposed to grind, I'm even more dissapointed.
Who cares anyway? The grindfest continues...
EDIT: Just noticed the text underneath. (me and reading...)
_Kharbon_
02-15-2011, 02:18 PM
I... euh... am dissapointed greatly. If nothing has been done about the xp curve or how we're supposed to grind, I'm even more dissapointed.
Who cares anyway? The grindfest continues...
Quote from blog: "Now users can gain experience from battling the enemies of their realm. Even more so, the experience curve has been adjusted to allow you to get to the War-Zone faster than ever."
Pnarpa
02-15-2011, 02:30 PM
Quote from blog: "Now users can gain experience from battling the enemies of their realm. Even more so, the experience curve has been adjusted to allow you to get to the War-Zone faster than ever."
Yea yea, noticed it 2 minutes before you posted.
Znurre
02-15-2011, 02:38 PM
Take a day off from work on Monday then, maybe.
Although given my experience from other updates it won't be ready until evening anyway :p
Let th EPIC battles begin! :viking:
Great, great news NGD!
Raindance
02-15-2011, 02:41 PM
Sure is nice to say 'Oh we won't be raising the level cap to 55'
'But we will raise it to 60 suckers!'
Miraculix
02-15-2011, 02:41 PM
Who wants to bet which grind spot they will nerf spawn rate first?
_Seinvan
02-15-2011, 02:44 PM
Now users can gain experience from battling the enemies of their realm.
Nice. Although I'm not particularly excited for another 100 hours of grinding. Also, all the wonderful items everyone was using at level 50 will probably be obsolete with this new max level. Ahh well..
Dalkor
02-15-2011, 02:47 PM
Nice. Although I'm not particularly excited for another 100 hours of grinding. Also, all the wonderful items everyone was using at level 50 will probably be obsolete with this new max level. Ahh well..
well, it seems like u have to grind realm enemies, and not mobs, since u'll be able to get to 60 by killing other peeps....
ice_zero_cool
02-15-2011, 02:48 PM
Sure is nice to say 'Oh we won't be raising the level cap to 55'
'But we will raise it to 60 suckers!'
100% right... and to show it to everyone... read the red text :D
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 02:48 PM
Nice. Although I'm not particularly excited for another 100 hours of grinding. Also, all the wonderful items everyone was using at level 50 will probably be obsolete with this new max level. Ahh well..
I totally agree with this. Its outrageous more or less.. People spent lots of money etc on things that will become useless now... I think its a ripoff..
And what about magnanite hammer etc will all these items now be adjusted and raised to lets say lvl 60 etc? I will not be able to use it anymore.. NGD were confused and we want more information about this..
Not that mages will care for new items...
Xavion
02-15-2011, 02:49 PM
Hello all
Woohoo Nice, I saw on Facebook that next monday we can become lvl 60.
New Skill points and new Armour.
Good job NGD )
Are there new Quests comming to?
And do you hold your xp.. Becouse I already got 11mil xp
Am I already lvl 55 or somthing than?
Regards,
Xav
_Seinvan
02-15-2011, 02:50 PM
Yeah but I think it's safe to assume that mobs will be faster than enemies. I wonder if boosters work on Realm Enemies now too xD
This level curve better be nice lol. I mean if you're raising the max level, can we assume there's new mobs, too? ^^
Not that mages will care for new items...
I'm sure as hell not getting rid of my +6 const tunic >.>
Mellion
02-15-2011, 02:52 PM
A total disappointment.
I would write more here, but than I would be banned.
One question.
I invested Money, Magnas and Drops to get my current Equip.
I thought, i will have it till i stop playing Regnum.
Well, when the new Equip appears, will i get my Money, Magnas and some Drops back?
Congratz Ngd, with this Idea you will get some new customers, but i think you will lose much more...
I never was so disappointed of any idea of you..really.
I always saw something good in yout updates: i love my current hunter, the Magna-weapons, can live with invasions and so on...but if all the collecting of my equip was for nothing, well...to be honest, i dont know what i shall do, it was so much work to get it^^
I'm a bit excited...
New content, new dynamics, I hope they add new mobs. And ohhh hunters - hopefully we can tame those giant friggin yeti's near syrtis wall...
WACK WACK WACK!!
:bounce:
Greyman_tle
02-15-2011, 03:17 PM
Cool new stuff and we can do sumin with it (unlike xmas hats etc)....so do we keep the xp we got over lvl50 :eek24:? or do we all get reset to lvl50 :bangin:?
Glad i dont have to decide......gonna be mass complaints no matter which is chosen :lol:
Dupa_z_Zasady
02-15-2011, 03:18 PM
If RPs is that would make people level up, I wonder if they reset current RP status.
I'm disappointed as many of you, but I won't whine since they made Mac client.
grimmace512
02-15-2011, 03:19 PM
While I am some what excited... I am also filled with great rage. I was going to grad today and now it is not going to be as exciting, because in a week I will have to work to regrad. :dumbofme:
Znurre
02-15-2011, 03:26 PM
I would understand everyone's complaints if we actually had to grind our way to level 60.
However, I am sure being able to reach level 60 trough RvR/PvP will be fun!
Mellion
02-15-2011, 03:27 PM
I would understand everyone's complaints if we actually had to grind our way to level 60.
However, I am sure being able to reach level 60 trough RvR/PvP will be fun!
I invested too much time, money and effort to get to lvl 50 with all of my chars and those items I own. Grinding and getting new items, all the work again???
And next year lvl 70? Come on, this sucks.
If i write what i think, instant ban.
Mellion
02-15-2011, 03:32 PM
If i write what i think, instant ban.
yes, same here. I edited my first post, to not being banned.
Aasiora-Leif
02-15-2011, 03:36 PM
According to NGD, they haven't revealed everything in this new update, so to those that are pissed, we should wait until Monday before raging.
Mellion
02-15-2011, 03:38 PM
According to NGD, they haven't revealed everything in this new update, so to those that are pissed, we should wait until Monday before raging.
Ngd, p***** me 4 times now. Ruining my best items year over year. Ruining spells, combat, social networks, pushing very good players out of the game.
urris
02-15-2011, 03:39 PM
I think it will be nice, I dont think they will lose so many, look at world at warcraft they incresse lvls and then peapole have to get new gear, and they have peapole playing
Mellion
02-15-2011, 03:41 PM
I think it will be nice, I dont think they will lose so many, look at world at warcraft they incresse lvls and then peapole have to get new gear, and they have peapole playing
In WoW you get good items during the gameplay. In Regnum you have to pay for it or work really hard for it.
Aasiora-Leif
02-15-2011, 03:46 PM
Ngd, p***** me 4 times now. Ruining my best items year over year. Ruining spells, combat, social networks, pushing very good players out of the game.
You don't think they pissed me the f*** off several times too? Some of my best friends left this game because of NGD's crap. Even so, we should wait for monday. From what I understand, half of the details of this 'expansion' haven't been explained and it's possible that they've done other stuff that'll make us like this update even more. One positive thing about this that I've noticed so far is the increase of activity that there will be in the wz. Now that we can level through pvp/rvr, you can expect players to be out of the inner realm more.
It sounds nice.
Gratz NGD but I don't think that I'm the only one who is very frightened by this type of change.
I really hope you took in count all the persisting gameplay imbalance between all class, especially barbarian, warlocks and behind this both class maybe the marksman.
Because raising level cap means more power points, more discpline points.
There are already too much failure about these class (too many damage buff bonus spell when the class already has decent damage deal without any buffs). Too much cc spell and too long duration ...
It's already a nightmare sometimes with some of the existing class with 19 on 3 skills trees ... So I let you guess how it could be with 4 or 5 for already too OP class in the game.
So I repeat again, I really hope you already thought about that before builduing this big new expansion (ex : rebuild of points distribution system, nerf or significative changes of existing spells gameplay balance failure, balance population because if there is great rewards for only the massive zerg players realm it will be a big fail ...).
And if you fail something (and gameplay balance is very very important, more than balance realm population), I'm sadly sure that many players would leave this game and never come back.
And how about players who already more xp than the present maximum level ? Because it would be too crazy that just after an update some players are instantly lvl 60 cause they already grind before (for stuff mostly, for ranking for the craziest one).
Or players level basically like now until 50 and then after, it's another type of xp earned only with PvP from lvl 50 to lvl 60 ? It would be fair solution or you will simply reset amount of xp over lvl 50 cap in order all players lvl 50 start with the same basis with this uncap leveling system ?
For the moment wait & see and thank you very much for all the work and really hoping you thought about everything ;-)
Xavion
02-15-2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah true.
I got Tenax gear and Great Epic gear.. But thats lvl 50?
Than I must use lvl 60 normal gear? ..
HuntShot
02-15-2011, 03:53 PM
Sure is nice to say 'Oh we won't be raising the level cap to 55'
'But we will raise it to 60 suckers!'
Epic huge +1
tikinho
02-15-2011, 03:57 PM
Sure is nice to say 'Oh we won't be raising the level cap to 55'
'But we will raise it to 60 suckers!'
:hat:
I hope enemies will drop items or with the points you get from killing enemies you will be able to buy items, because I have invested so much time in this game to find items.
OR :dumbofme: :dumbofme: :dumbofme:
Seher
02-15-2011, 03:59 PM
Now that's something I didn't expect... However it fits to the other stuff, more things to do for addicts. :P
It's just quite confusing that we'll get more powers... while still most of the old ones suck, anyway it won't be that bad.
Who wants to bet which grind spot they will nerf spawn rate first?
Herbred save.
Balint
02-15-2011, 04:02 PM
I had full epic lvl50 gear. I paid around 6000$ because of the many useless items from lucky boxes. I was the best player in game because of my gear. But now I will be similar to the other players and I cant play when I'm not the best. I'll leave now.
DkySven
02-15-2011, 04:04 PM
About the fear that rp will be used to get to level 60, don't forget this:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=71557
Seher
02-15-2011, 04:07 PM
I had full epic lvl50 gear. I paid around 6000$ because of the many useless items from lucky boxes. I was the best player in game because of my gear. But now I will be similar to the other players and I cant play when I'm not the best. I'll leave now.
Oh wait... I didn't think of that. Really nice way to nerf overpowered items! :D
The new level 60 items won't be that overpowered from the beginning I guess, I'm looking forward to a nicely balanced game.
Ps: My sincere condolences to all item whores that have to grind their stuff again now. Oh wait, I don't care at all.
Mellion
02-15-2011, 04:08 PM
About the fear that rp will be used to get to level 60, don't forget this:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=71557
Introducing a 3. currency for what? Upgrading our items?
VandaMan
02-15-2011, 04:09 PM
I had full epic lvl50 gear. I paid around 6000$ because of the many useless items from lucky boxes. I was the best player in game because of my gear. But now I will be similar to the other players and I cant play when I'm not the best. I'll leave now.
ahahaha epic
tikinho
02-15-2011, 04:09 PM
Yeah all this time collecting RPs for nothing.
When I see someone that gets -20 rps at altar and then starts "O shit I lost rps" What is the point of -20 rps at enemy altar? :P
Aasiora-Leif
02-15-2011, 04:09 PM
@Balint
ROFL. Here's some news for you. Gear doesn't make you the best player, skill does. That's one thing about this game that's very different from other mmo's; There isn't such a big weight on items
Furthermore, sorry man but you aren't the best player. I know players with mediocre gear who do better in the wz. sorry
Miraculix
02-15-2011, 04:10 PM
@Balint
ROFL. Here's some news for you. Gear doesn't make you the best player, skill does. That's one thing about this game that's very different from other mmo's; There isn't such a big weight on items
Furthermore, sorry man but you aren't the best player. I know players with mediocre gear who do better in the wz. sorry
He was obviously being ironic. Chill :p
Aasiora-Leif
02-15-2011, 04:14 PM
He was obviously being ironic. Chill :p
I guess it's obvious that I'm a little stressed by this update so far? :P
Phlue4
02-15-2011, 04:15 PM
It's already a nightmare sometimes with some of the existing class with 19 on 3 skills trees ... So I let you guess how it could be with 4 or 5 for already too OP class in the game.
Who told you that it will come this way...
Caelia
02-15-2011, 04:17 PM
I only worry about magna weapons (being an owner of one, myself). 5,000 magnanites collected for nothing? It was already 5 levels lower than the previous end-game level. Now it's going to be 15 lower?
@Balint
ROFL. Here's some news for you. Gear doesn't make you the best player, skill does. That's one thing about this game that's very different from other mmo's; There isn't such a big weight on items
Furthermore, sorry man but you aren't the best player. I know players with mediocre gear who do better in the wz. sorry
Fully agree, however it's true that there are and there were so many players who spent money and/or time for their gear have a good reason to be scared or disgusted.
I don't know if NGD really thought about this THING but I can understand the frustration of players who spent hours, days, months, year and/or money to have a decent stuff and suddenly just with ONE update, they will discover they did that for finally nothing. If you do an introspection, it's really very scary :piz:
TryHarder
02-15-2011, 04:21 PM
People crying and stressing out, they said they will adjust the things they change.. so stop crying and have fun till monday!
xDxDxDxDxDxDxDxD
this thread is so funny. Isn't it a tad early to be flying off to reckless conclusions when only the most minuscule of information has been released?
I learned my lesson from the last balance update. I refuse to take any position until each and every detail is released to the community. I suggest that many should consider a more conservative track rather than making terse conclusions based on very little concrete details.
Like in any update the devil is in the details and we have none. If a person had to be disappointed, it should be because of lack of detail.
I would have expected the senior ones to know and do better. Wait until ALL information is in THEN complain. Maybe you all have the inside track and know more than me...
But don't stop on my account, grind the rumour mill some more. It is rather entertaining to see how NGD has you all so twisted and contorted like you ate something bad.
Mattdoesrock
02-15-2011, 04:34 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! More levelling! :D
I have 4 level 50's already.
I hope to god that the xp curve has been SEVERELY reduced. At least we can grind in war... FINALLY. Something that should have been added since day one.
But who knows, could be great, could ruin the game.
w_larsen
02-15-2011, 04:35 PM
dec.20.2010 - level cap to 55 FALSE
less than two months later - lvl 60!
but well, we all knew and expected that.
the issue isnt the levels or something, its lack of communication as allways.
"we arent raising maxlvl atm. thread closed. "
"we are raising maxlvl, but arent really going to address your concerns until its live. thread (will be) closed."
now the idea to ask customers to wait until something goes live, before speaking about the possible problems... well... its just... wel... umm...
Seher
02-15-2011, 04:35 PM
I've learned my lesson from past updates, too. I've always been right with my predictions :P
I've never complained though...
DkySven
02-15-2011, 04:40 PM
dec.20.2010 - level cap to 55 FALSE
less than two months later - lvl 60!
but well, we all knew and expected that.
In that post Zombrex only said that at that moment the level cap would not be raised and the day the level cap would be raised, you would be properly informed.
Dupa_z_Zasady
02-15-2011, 04:48 PM
People that complain that they bought items, so on, so on...
That's the point! You've made your shopping, you don't purchase as much as you could any more. You are not good customers any more.^^
As much as it looks ugly to most of us, this is a business, face it.
Buy more stuff next time to avoid such surprises or split your purchases over time.:devil:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! More levelling! :D
I have 4 level 50's already.
I finished grinding my last char last month, and I wanted finally start to learn to play some classes...^^
About the fear that rp will be used to get to level 60, don't forget this:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=71557
Also...
About fear that level cap won't be raised don't forget about this (http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=1220494&postcount=1).
Klutu
02-15-2011, 04:51 PM
too be fair he said not raising to lvl 55 :P
he also said we would be informed of the cap being raised (Which we are)
sounds like a awesome update
Miraculix
02-15-2011, 04:56 PM
Will the XP remain on the characters that have XP over lvl50 or will it be reset to 50 for them so that everyone will start from the same point?
Balint
02-15-2011, 05:04 PM
Sorry about my last post. I wanted to show this game is not only about "get the best gear". Many ppl think I'm the best because I have x const or y% cast speed. Ofc you'll loose in pvp without a good cast speed, but there are RvR too.
Btw I don't have any lvl50s, only a lvl46 warlock and I don't even have a horse. :) (I don't hate the premium players. I like them)
I personally like when NGD do something, and I hope they will do good work this time (too? :p)
I think NGD has to clarify things as soon as possible, too many speculation, not enough information, and people are raging.
-Logan-
02-15-2011, 05:12 PM
Will the XP remain on the characters that have XP over lvl50?
It better <_<
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 05:13 PM
I don't see a problem at all with this update EXCEPT for the items like many other said before we payed alot (Mostly real money) and spent alot of time on it to get them (It took me 2 years to get decent barb gear) Now its going to be useless and i don't think this is fair towards us all. Plz NGD if you announce something like this please be more detailed in the beginning and try to talk to the community about these problems that maybe will occur..
w_larsen
02-15-2011, 05:23 PM
dky, klutu, i know, what he wrote, as you can see from the next statement (that we knew about level raising and expected it)
he also wrote that any further posts about that topic will get closed and/or deleted, wich is exactly my concern about all that stuff. instead of talking it out with community, how probably level cap will be raised, and what good can be made of it, the message we got was pretty similar to "dissidents will be shot".
i think you do understand, why community is concerned. balance update was never finished, we still have trees full of nearly useless spells. we still have lots of traps in landscape from alsius wz update, we have ro clients segfaulting, we have all sorts of magnanite duping surfacing time to time getting plenty accounts disabled for investigation, we still have ro passwords transmitted in plain text (md5 is totally broken, no argument here) for service, where we spend money, while our free webmails have better level of security etc etc and NGD jumps to next shiny thing with "wait until its live before complaining"
Dupa_z_Zasady
02-15-2011, 05:26 PM
Will the XP remain on the characters that have XP over lvl50 or will it be reset to 50 for them so that everyone will start from the same point?
This is a very good question and i'd like hear an answer from NGD ASAP.
If XP would be left as is I think that some people, i call them "forever grinders"
would be awarded instead of being punished, as they produce little added value to the game, and I don't like this. Note, those people usually grind in safe zone.
Mele beach in Ignis for example.
doppelapfel
02-15-2011, 05:43 PM
Oh wait... I didn't think of that. Really nice way to nerf overpowered items! :D
The new level 60 items won't be that overpowered from the beginning I guess, I'm looking forward to a nicely balanced game.
Ps: My sincere condolences to all item whores that have to grind their stuff again now. Oh wait, I don't care at all.
I doubt all items can be balanced this way, just think of the dragon amulets.
Xavion
02-15-2011, 05:55 PM
Item fushion time XD
Mattdoesrock
02-15-2011, 05:58 PM
What if the new levels 51 - 60 are only obtainable through this new RvR currency / xp?
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 06:14 PM
I have seen this coming...
That was a reason, why i created my "New classes thread".
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=70711
I said: "A time will probably come, when many people have all 6 characters leveled to 50. After a while, you have played some time with every class, and it will become boring slowly. Additionally many people will already have top gear, mounts, they will not need to use booster anymore.Of course there are other possibilities, but it wouldnīt anger (or even scare away) people, if NGD would introduce new classes. They could sell another scrolls, to have more than 6 characters, too."
NGD has decided to anger many people, instead of creating new classes.
With new classes, people would have to grind too. They would have have to buy new items too. But their old characters and gear would have stayed untouched.
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 06:17 PM
I have seen this coming...
That was a reason, why i created my "New classes thread".
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=70711
I said: "A time will probably come, when many people have all 6 characters leveled to 50. After a while, you have played some time with every class, and it will become boring slowly. Additionally many people will already have top gear, mounts, they will not need to use booster anymore.Of course there are other possibilities, but it wouldnīt anger (or even scare away) people, if NGD would introduce new classes. They could sell another scrolls, to have more than 6 characters, too."
NGD has decided to anger many people, instead of creating new classes.
With new classes, people would have to grind too. They would have have to buy new items too. But their old characters and gear would have stayed untouched.
Plz stop spamming your idea no one liked it before and no one will like it now.
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 06:19 PM
Plz stop spamming your idea no one liked it before and no one will like it now.
You like this more. LoL
NGD has to do something to generate income (but not this way).
They have to raise the level cap or introduce new classes. It is a fact.
Too late. They have raised the level cap.
And people donīt liked my conjurer split, yes youīre right.
But new classes in general have more than 50% (60%) positive votes.
Look at it.
doppelapfel
02-15-2011, 06:25 PM
Plz stop spamming your idea no one liked it before and no one will like it now.
+1 You created your thread (or more than one?), if anybody wants to know about your awesome ideas he or she can read it, you dont have to mention it in any other discussion.
tallhair
02-15-2011, 06:33 PM
Any chance NDG could give us an idea of what will be needed for achieve each lvl between 50 to the new cap of 60 so we can see at what lvl we will be at immediately after the update. I would like to know at least if its all going by experience I'm hoping to be at least around lvl 55on my knight who is less than 100k from 8 million but have a good feeling ill have a long ways to go on my lock.:swordfight::swordfight::alsius:
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 06:59 PM
I will not link these ideas again (at least not that frequent, except someone talks about new classes), because it is obviously too late now.
No "spam" anymore, you can be satisfied.
Another ten levels of grind! Good luck knights - your repair bills are going to go through the roof.
All knights will be beggars lying in the gutter with a bottle of cheap cider.
For a price my healer would be happy to help out.:smile:
KKharzov
02-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Blah blah blah blah.
Who cares about items? Do you need those items to play the fucking game? That doesn't change the fact that in a few more days they will become prehistoric garbage. So move on and get with the times.
This is a standard procedure when level caps get raised in MMO's, but I guess for most of you this is "My first MMO". I could care less what they do, I'm getting more months of content (for free) and that's all that matters.
tallhair
02-15-2011, 07:49 PM
Yea ill admit the awesome gear that it took me two years to gather up will now be noob gear but come on you ALL know you cant wait to see what the new gear looks like.
With that said it better look awesome:viking:
tjanex
02-15-2011, 07:50 PM
Some questions for NGD:
- Will lvl 50ers keep their XP, would be stupid if we go grind now for the update and after find out we didn''t need to...
- How much do we have to grind to get lvl 60?
- What's gonna happen with the items (boss items, mag bow that is now lvl 45 would be even more worthless then it already is when it remains lvl 45)
- Name of the new currency
(Btw all the people that say hmpf they said they won''t raise lvl max to 55 they told you as it is, they didn't raise it to lvl 55 :) they raised it to lvl 60.)
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 07:51 PM
Blah blah blah blah.
Who cares about items? Do you need those items to play the fucking game? That doesn't change the fact that in a few more days they will become prehistoric garbage. So move on and get with the times.
This is a standard procedure when level caps get raised in MMO's, but I guess for most of you this is "My first MMO". I could care less what they do, I'm getting more months of content (for free) and that's all that matters.
Of course they have to generate income, of course there was no guarantee
current top gear would be useful forever, but it is equally absurd to think people would be delighted by these new changes. This reaction is totally understandable. I hope there will be enough new content to justify this level
cap raise, i really hope it.
KKharzov
02-15-2011, 07:58 PM
Of course they have to generate income, of course there was no guarantee
current top gear would be useful forever, but it is equally absurd to think people would be delighted by these new changes. This reaction is totally understandable. I hope there will be enough new content to justify this level
cap raise, i really hope it.
If you want my opinion, I think people will whine now, then over time after the dust settles everyone will think in wonder "How would Regnum look without this update?".
History repeats itself. Perhaps it is too early as they have only briefly talked about the new content, but I am already happy with where I am standing.
You can look at it in a positive way. Most of the game and item imbalance will be purged, and people will need to begin collecting new items. I am not saying this will be easy, but 70% of the playerbase will be in the same situation, wheras normally there is a huge gap to jump if a new player wants to catch up to the top players, that is why cleaning once in a while hugely benefits the game. It also brings a breath of fresh air into the economy, as new items will circulate throughout the game. Additional, in theory, this also brings more balance to the game, but it is too early to talk about balance in my opinion.
Klutu
02-15-2011, 08:05 PM
I imagine all the gear fiends are gonna start there usual threats and protests against ximerm until they get what they want
I personally will end up enjoying it. If mob grinding is allowed to gain lvls I think it would be nice to see some old players grinding with eachother like how we use to back when Horus was first launched. Might just spark the noobies too follow our trend :P
Can NGD release how the new tree(s) will work? will it be joined per classes or different for all classes
Also maybe make the Thorkul Sword a big uber lvl 60 weapon? ;D
tjanex
02-15-2011, 08:06 PM
If you want my opinion, I think people will whine now, then over time after the dust settles everyone will think in wonder "How would Regnum look without this update?".
History repeats itself. Perhaps it is too early as they have only briefly talked about the new content, but I am already happy with where I am standing.
You can look at it in a positive way. Most of the game and item imbalance will be purged, and people will need to begin collecting new items. I am not saying this will be easy, but 70% of the playerbase will be in the same situation, wheras normally there is a huge gap to jump if a new player wants to catch up to the top players, that is why cleaning once in a while hugely benefits the game. It also brings a breath of fresh air into the economy, as new items will circulate throughout the game. Additional, in theory, this also brings more balance to the game, but it is too early to talk about balance in my opinion.
Still they are not clear and don't make clear what they want, what they do and what they want to do... This is a forum isn't it? Shouldn't be some more ''communication'' between players and the makers of this game.
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 08:07 PM
History repeats itself. Perhaps it is too early as they have only briefly talked about the new content, but I am already happy with where I am standing.
If there is really nice new content, it would have been better, if they had
presented it already. Until now, we donīt really know. We only see the necessity to grind and that old gear will be mostly useless now.
You can look at it in a positive way. Most of the game and item imbalance will be purged, and people will need to begin collecting new items (I am not saying this will be easy, but at least 70% of the playerbase will be in the same situation). It also brings a breath of fresh air into the economy, as new items will circulate through the game. Additional, in theory, this also brings more balance to the game.
I donīt believe we will have better balance immediately. Maybe after some new balance updates. But unfortunately this isnīt a fact either.
I will give the benefit of the doubt, at least until i know what the new content will be.
Gabburtjuh
02-15-2011, 08:09 PM
I read this thread today, after not seeing it for just 24h more or less, loads of whining about the lvl cap update, maybe we should wait to see what happens with items(boss and magna would be outdated, normal even worse), how they changed the xp curve, the xp you get from killing enemies, what the new currency is etc etc.....
ice_zero_cool
02-15-2011, 08:11 PM
An online game, especially a MMO, dies if there are no changes. You want ngd to stop updating and ONLY fix some bugs?? You wouldn't be playing regnum next year if theres nothing new.
and yes, I, too, have pretty nice gear on my char(s) on server Muspell, but do I dont whine about it? no, i look forward to the new things to come. because i still want to play regnum for a while, even though im already playing since closed beta in Germany (Sep. 2007).
btw, most ppl who complain before updates are gonna stay anyways. its been like this every damn time. BUT, u needa whine about it first! although you really might like it afterwards.
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 08:15 PM
An online game, especially a MMO, dies if there are no changes. You want ngd to stop updating and ONLY fix some bugs?? You wouldn't be playing regnum next year if theres nothing new.
Not at all.(i have posted many suggestions, look into my profile)
But:
Good idea: Give them (people) something new (for example new classes).
Bad idea: Delete (make useless) something people have worked and payed to get it for months or even years.
At least there will be many outcrys.
Immune
02-15-2011, 08:15 PM
Stressing and complaining about something without all of the information is pointless. That said, would be nice if they just gave us all the information instead of feeding it to us bit-by-bit.
Looking forward to the update regardless though. Will be interesting for certain.
Kaixo
02-15-2011, 08:22 PM
@Balint
ROFL. Here's some news for you. Gear doesn't make you the best player, skill does. That's one thing about this game that's very different from other mmo's; There isn't such a big weight on items
Furthermore, sorry man but you aren't the best player. I know players with mediocre gear who do better in the wz. sorry
Quite the contrary, items make a lot of difference.
With some luck NGD will correct this in the expansion.
tikinho
02-15-2011, 08:23 PM
If you want us to not whine tell us that the items we have now on level 50 character will be as good for level 60 as they are for level 50 now.
You play RO for items? Cmoon ppl everyone plays for FUN. Forget about items FFS. RO at least Horus became so boring when people started to get greedy for items. Items are tool to help you play easier - nothing more. You still can have fun. We even got more fun when we got no items. We gived items, we shared everything, we was team. Bosses items etc shite broken everything that was so nice. This made so many people leave not changes NGD makes.
Cool down, forget about f*king items and HAVE FUN. We got awesome fun when Horus was young. Guys get a grip. And stop whining.
It will be good. :clapping5365:
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 08:33 PM
If you want us to not whine tell us that the items we have now on level 50 character will be as good for level 60 as they are for level 50 now.
Huge +1 to that! Even if they made the lvl 50 stuff were wearing now lvl 55+ im happy!
doppelapfel
02-15-2011, 08:34 PM
Quite the contrary, items make a lot of difference.
With some luck NGD will correct this in the expansion.
Well depends on the class, mages can be played without any boni on gear. But of course youre right regarding warriors and archers.
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 08:36 PM
You play RO for items? Cmoon ppl everyone plays for FUN. Forget about items FFS. RO at least Horus became so boring when people started to get greedy for items. Items are tool to help you play easier - nothing more. You still can have fun. We even got more fun when we got no items. We gived items, we shared everything, we was team. Bosses items etc shite broken everything that was so nice. This made so many people leave not changes NGD makes.
Cool down, forget about f*king items and HAVE FUN. We got awesome fun when Horus was young. Guys get a grip. And stop whining.
It will be good. :clapping5365:
Says someone who probably didn't spend lots of cash time effort etc (2 years here) on getting nice stuff and not by grinding all the time but just playing the game like anyone else. I believe its what we deserve to have and its not nice when they MIGHT take that away from us since its not really certain jet but looks obvious...
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 08:47 PM
You play RO for items? Cmoon ppl everyone plays for FUN. Forget about items FFS. RO at least Horus became so boring when people started to get greedy for items. Items are tool to help you play easier - nothing more. You still can have fun. We even got more fun when we got no items. We gived items, we shared everything, we was team. Bosses items etc shite broken everything that was so nice. This made so many people leave not changes NGD makes.
Cool down, forget about f*king items and HAVE FUN. We got awesome fun when Horus was young. Guys get a grip. And stop whining.
It will be good.
You really think there will be no lvl 60 items?
And they need money from grinders and item buyers. This is obvious and totally acceptable in my opinion. I am not the guy complaining about these things. But i would have created new content (as said in last post). Grinding a new class, they could sell character rolls, booster and new items without making old gear useless. Ok, @Knekelvoeste, maybe there are some other possibilities, but new classes was the idea i had.
Eyfura
02-15-2011, 08:47 PM
I really hope (with many other players) my awesome gear do not become useless. I wasted much real life money and time for it. I grinded like crazy, so i also hope i dont lose my exp. Well, its just items, but they make my e-p*nis bigger. It's important for such nolifer like me.
Anyway, im not gonna buy more lucky boxes if my current gear become useless - after like 500 i finally would have good gear again and then you would do it again: increase max lvl to 70!
But let's see what is coming. I try to think positive and grinding is not really problem for me.
Kyrottimus
02-15-2011, 08:50 PM
Also maybe make the Thorkul Sword a big uber lvl 60 weapon? ;D
xD +1
That would rock.
Also, what about Dragon drops and other WZ Boss drops? Will their levels change or will they have new items added to their drop-list?
Knekelvoeste
02-15-2011, 09:01 PM
@Knekelvoeste, maybe there are some other possibilities, but new classes was the idea i had.
I didn't knew that :P
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 09:10 PM
I didn't knew that :P
Ok:D, i tried to prevent this level cap raise (of course i like to have new classes too). Hoped NGD would consider it as a better idea, to do something against oversaturation of items/gear and lvl 50 characters.
_Seinvan
02-15-2011, 09:14 PM
What if the new levels 51 - 60 are only obtainable through this new RvR currency / xp?
That's what should happen, since it the expansion is called 'Warmasters'. But alas, only more farming motivation..
I hope the new curve will at least adjust so that the chars who are 50 now are like level 55 or something.
Also, I know the content creators and bug/balance fixers are separate, but isn't creating more bugs/balance issues for a seemingly understaffed bug/balance fixing team kind of a flawed plan? xD
Ashnurazg
02-15-2011, 09:31 PM
How much EXP we will need to become lvl 60 (an 51 until 59)?
What's about the high lvl equipment? Does my lvl 50 equip will be improved to lvl 60 equip or it will become worthless (especially when you used xim boxes to get the equip)?
I'm confused and annoyed about the announcement. I really need more informations to decide - whether I continuing to play or throwing regnum into my rubbish bin.
HuntShot
02-15-2011, 09:45 PM
I only got one word to say...: Hype.
Seriously nice done NGD you obviously wanted to makes this a really big hype and as you can see, it worked!
Even though most people are complaining, still. Nice really nice work!
Lookin' forward to it!
DemonMonger
02-15-2011, 09:51 PM
I love the idea of level increase.
If yo guys want to setup grinding parties, I will show you the tricks of the trade.
HidraA
02-15-2011, 10:06 PM
Zombrex told:Level Cap Raising to 55 (FALSE)....well he was right ...
Level Cap will be 60...
ehm damn...i wasn't even lvl 50 ...at lvl 49 from 9 months...
Indeed..big surprise...if lvl 45 its half way to 50...how much means lvl 60?
-And about items ..i don't think they will change any item...just made new armors and weapons from lvl 50 to 60...others will stay like this
Kitsuni
02-15-2011, 10:06 PM
Just scale all of the existing level 40-50 items up to lv50-60 with the new looks, then add entirely new gear for 40-50 using the old looks. Finally, give each player up to 6 free item fusion scrolls so they can return their items to the old looks if they so wish. And finally leave the apperance of boss gears and magna weapons alone.
Kyrottimus
02-15-2011, 10:16 PM
...give each player up to 6 free item fusion scrolls so they can return their items to the old looks if they so wish.
Not gonna happen. It would be nice, but don't hold your breath.
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 10:18 PM
Just scale all of the existing level 40-50 items up to lv50-60 with the new looks, then add entirely new gear for 40-50 using the old looks. Finally, give each player up to 6 free item fusion scrolls so they can return their items to the old looks if they so wish. And finally leave the apperance of boss gears and magna weapons alone.
I would say: Use these new skills and items/equipment and create a "Warmaster" subclass (and other new sub-classes).
Create another (second) "more characters roll", sell booster for leveling this "Warmaster", create new items for him, and sell mounts.
No one will really complain or even quit playing then. You are hitting the people most, that are buying most things the way you have conceptualized this update.
Miraculix
02-15-2011, 10:21 PM
Just scale all of the existing level 40-50 items up to lv50-60 with the new looks, then add entirely new gear for 40-50 using the old looks. Finally, give each player up to 6 free item fusion scrolls so they can return their items to the old looks if they so wish. And finally leave the apperance of boss gears and magna weapons alone.
lololol
More wishful thinking and people in denial...
Oh, fun fun :D
Pwnography
02-15-2011, 10:26 PM
Wow. I acctually love this idea, and Im one of the worst people when it comes to gear whoring. You think your current lvl 50 gear will be useless? It will still have great bonuses which matter more then ap and good weapons will not be hard to find. This will make more war, which is what this game is about. Calm down...you will end up loving this.
Alzaroth_
02-15-2011, 10:28 PM
Hey guys,
I also spend time and money to get my money. And I hate grind. I REALY hate this. That's the worst part of every MMO. But we have to do this so... And if now we can have xp (only? please, only) with PVP RVR, it will be great.
When I buy Xim, I know it's a gift of money for NGD. Cause they give me great time and they work a lot. Of course I can buy lucky box or stuff, and it's great, but Xim are the way we make this game continue.
So, now we just have to wait and see. I'll be happy to discover all the things NGD puts in this update.
Sorry for my bad english, hope you understand what i mean.
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 10:32 PM
also spend time and money to get my money. And I hate grind. I REALY hate this. That's the worst part of every MMO. But we have to do this so... And if now we can have xp (only? please, only) with PVP RVR, it will be great.
Only by PVP/RvR?
Imagine that most people will be lvl 60 and a new lvl 50 player has to fight against lvl 60 players to reach the Max lvl. Good??!
Kitsuni
02-15-2011, 10:33 PM
It's not wishful thinking, it's just a suggestion. I've talked to many people in game, and we can also see from this thread, that many are already upset about the change, but that can't be avoided. Best NGD can do is do it properly, without worrying too much about money. But if they chose to get more income over supporting their existing customers (and thus getting higher defered income), that is their choice, and no one can do anything about that, except leave. And if it comes to that, I imagine many will, just as they always have. Never stopped the game though, but it doesn't make it any less sad.
Llyssaer
02-15-2011, 10:37 PM
1) The extended level cap is a great idea. More to strive for, an opportunity to have new quests and/or earning xp through battle which is the core of this game--realms at war.
2) Worried over high repair bills? Grind naked. Bring a good conjuror.
3) Sat, glad you're not leaving. ;)
4) Aasi, let me make you some tea, girlfriend. Just breathe. Deep breath in. Long exhale.
5) Maybe with this next expansion the central markets will finally get Starbucks! Okay, maybe not. But from its beginning, RO has had wonderful ground laid for expansion. Gems, quest lines, extra NPCs, established lore, a core dynamic of conflict. I'm excited to see what comes next!
Ulti19
02-15-2011, 11:13 PM
I personally can't wait for this new stuff^^ We know so little about it really, but for me, new levels and skills are friken awesome!!! Can get to create new builds, learn how to play again at a new level, even more epic armor, and now exp for killing enemies, wicked. For anyone that was a bit bored with the current gameplay or just ro being the same for so long, I think this is an enormous treat from NGD. Not to mention the soon to come fort revamp^^
53453467734534
02-15-2011, 11:19 PM
I think this is an enormous threat from NGD.
Fixed your post:theking:
Really i would like to see new skills, etc too. But i would do it different (see above)
, without scrubbing the new content.
tarashunter
02-15-2011, 11:39 PM
I only worry about magna weapons (being an owner of one, myself). 5,000 magnanites collected for nothing? It was already 5 levels lower than the previous end-game level. Now it's going to be 15 lower?
is my warry too....magna bow il lvl 57,cap lvl is 60....but there will be stronger weapon than magna one this is sure....you collected 5000 magna to have a magna weapon and then few month they put new weapon "may be) stronger in game.
New armour and weapon to drop at bosses that can be dropped as usual only byconju and knights so no equal distribution.
ice_zero_cool
02-16-2011, 08:03 AM
Though i dont own a magna weapon, I really hope they will make them a bit better that they can compare to the new things that are to come.
BC if they dont, then the "magnanite currency" which you can trade really well now would be useless, since nobody would want these weapons anymore.
thats my only worry. :D
ice
Well, I don't understand why so many people are complaining about the update, cause we only know a few details about the update.
I am looking forward to the update, cause I played more WoW in the last months. I got my Char there to level 85 and now I have time to come back to Regnum and bring my chars to level 60 there.
I am excited for more news on the blog in the next days.
Signatus
02-16-2011, 10:36 AM
Some questions for NGD:
- Will lvl 50ers keep their XP, would be stupid if we go grind now for the update and after find out we didn''t need to...
- How much do we have to grind to get lvl 60?
- What's gonna happen with the items (boss items, mag bow that is now lvl 45 would be even more worthless then it already is when it remains lvl 45)
- Name of the new currency
(Btw all the people that say hmpf they said they won''t raise lvl max to 55 they told you as it is, they didn't raise it to lvl 55 :) they raised it to lvl 60.)
I want to know NGD reply to the quoted post.
As for the items, there was a time when having a "master" item (without stats) was being OP, then a time where barbs would use weapons with +7 STR dropped by pumas, then a time where anyone could buy a box and with a serious amount of luck get a ubber gear, finally a time where you can buy a weapon box, buy a scroll for making gem slots and a gem box and with some luck get a weapon that not even 5k magnas can create... point is, if it wasn't this new lvl cap something else would render your items obsolete.
I just hope this new expansion gets some new WZ area release but that might be pushing the wishful thinking.
ice_zero_cool
02-16-2011, 10:56 AM
Well, I don't understand why so many people are complaining about the update, cause we only know a few details about the update.
I am looking forward to the update, cause I played more WoW in the last months. I got my Char there to level 85 and now I have time to come back to Regnum and bring my chars to level 60 there.
I am excited for more news on the blog in the next days.
I don't understand the complainings either... I like it :)
Greyman_tle
02-16-2011, 11:42 AM
10 more levels.
so what does that mean?
1. More quests - bloody hope so anyway :bounce:
2. More gear - to those complaining their gear will become useless - give it me itll come in dam handy for lvls 50-55 id imagine (as its prolly OP compared to mine. I bin wearing lvl 40 leggings for over a year as the bonus is better than any thing higher i come across. Nothing higher than lvl52(new lvl thing) so the chance to actually get better gear - as the drop rate for marx stuff is almost zero for the last 4-5mnths. :jacky_chun:
3. with new xp/gp frm enemies means more war incentive. :swordfight:
4. new xp curve - bout bloody time, anything that makes that shorter is welcome. :lighten:
5. bug fixes - fingers crossed on that one.:eek24:
6. new forts - is it now or later? but soon anyway
Do the complainers play things like Dawn of War, then buy an expansion and emial complaints to the company complaining that the gear they collected is useless (but still useable) in the expansion ? :bangin:
Awrath
02-16-2011, 11:42 AM
I don't understand the complainings either... I like it :)
Wouldn't be a true RO update without some whining and complaining, ill placed as they may be. Still not enough information IMHO and the fact that no one but NGD has no idea what exactly will happen kind of makes the complaining pointless, because you don't actually know what you're complaining about!
Up to now everything that we the RO community have said are mere speculations. But up to now, I like the idea of this expansion, lot of people are getting bored with the game, and this will hopefully draw some old timers back.
Kittypretty
02-16-2011, 11:52 AM
As someone who has 34 million xp..i would LIKE to have that credited to my level if possible..but idk how it will work, as i see points from both sides of the fence, how it may be unfair for those who didnt grind past 50 (why should they, in my case i did simply cuz i like grinding..and i like supporting players who are levelling so it built up in those 1.5 years) but also i see people saying it will cause less wars since everyone will be grinding only to get 60 "first" and bragging rights, bigger penis etc.
SO i guess i hope NGD says something about these points at least before update to soothe some people, whether or not we will have our xp count, whether we can earn this xp in wz easily enough by killing enemies (if its like 100 xp per enemy..fracture even further by only doing partial kills..thatd take forever, so i hope they have this well thought out)
either way i dont mind grinding again, i know i dont mind it, and id like helping some people i hardly see anymore due to them constantly warring. If i HAVE to war for xp though, i doubt ill enjoy it much. just imo xp should be easy to gain, and that may be impossible for dead hours, or underpop realms, unless you like farming..or get xp for being farmed maybe.. so i have to wait n see if i like this whole xp for enemies thing, heck already we have people killing their alts or friends for worthless rp, will this cause mass mutual farming? like the rosette events? ok my turn to get a level etc..
as for item levels i do not understand this either, because my staff is level 79, and my ring is level 139. ofc we cannot obtain these MAIN levels..so does gear level go down as its durability does? or does a higher level item have better stats? seems the same to me so id like ngd also to comment on that some time if they could..as right now i have NO idea what item level even may mean.
Concerning gear level at 50 becoming possibly useless, im actually hoping somewhat that we get a clean slate so to speak, where epic armors now arent overpowered no more, and everyone has a chance to collect a new set of proper 60 armor. OR maybe even a xim or quest based item to transfer item stats to stronger armors higher level, for a fee or such, so we can have the new armor but old stats (not ap or resists, i mean boni)
hopefully though NOT by grinding, but a system revolving around rvr points, or quests, or some collectables feature, just not abusable (like prebuffing during bosses still unfixed.., or farming rp, or EVEN the remaining duped mag out there (yes alot of syrtis STILL have multiple mag weaps from duped mag..yet I got banned for reporting it..permanently..go figure..)
Sure you may have spent alot on xim, but that was your choice, so you didnt 'lose" anything, just like i cant bitch about losing my time grinding if i have to start fresh with 6.5 mill xp..i dont care.
I would just like to see less focus on gear (coming from a player with all dragon armor and boss weap/mag weap/ boss ring) i wouldnt feel bad about losing its overpoweredness if everyone else had to start fresh too, maybe we can do it RIGHT this time and share and help each other, not horde and rip each other off. (stupid thought i know, never gonna happen but i wish that people realize its a game..and helping realm get stronger by sharing is more important than how many eve hammers you can fit in your stash..)
So i guess those are my only wonders and thoughts, I am trying to stay positive and see where things go, i know i would like some variety at least, and this update sounds like it may bring just that, assuming nothing goes horribly wrong like exploiting and ragequitting because you dont wanna grind..or lost your 5000$ investment of xim box items..shoulda donated to an animal shelter..
SO i hope NGD stays in touch and sheds more light on this before the update actually arrives..lessen the shock a bit i guess, to not get hit with it all at once, but to kinda expect what...err to expect, keep some things a surprise..just please not the OBVIOUS things people have asked about!
Hoping im not banned day by day, as always, since people love to harass me in game (you know who you are)
Franz1789
02-16-2011, 12:09 PM
Can't understand all those complaining: it's a game! You collected all those gear, since it's a game it must continue, you will collect others.. I'm almost lvl 42, I can't wait now to get to lvl 50 to become a warmaster :)
ice_zero_cool
02-16-2011, 12:52 PM
Wouldn't be a true RO update without some whining and complaining, ill placed as they may be.
Sooooo truueee :eek24: :O
HuntShot
02-16-2011, 01:16 PM
New lands to explore in the warzone: http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/16/what%E2%80%99s-new-in-warmasters-%E2%80%93-part-2/ or just click Here (http://blog.regnumonlinegame.com/2011/02/16/what%E2%80%99s-new-in-warmasters-%E2%80%93-part-2/)
Looks really nice in my opinion, especially the alsius mountains!
ice_zero_cool
02-16-2011, 01:23 PM
looks niiiiiiice :)
+1 ngd :D
They should put those screens up in higher resolution!! I want a new desktop background xD
I'm dead f**king serious oO Regnum should get a few wallpapers :O
111th post \o/
:lighten: At last something the community will not be able to complain about. Very nice looking NGD.
Balint
02-16-2011, 01:31 PM
:lighten: At last something the community will not be able to complain about. Very nice looking NGD.
more lag :p
TryHarder
02-16-2011, 01:37 PM
I am curious if boss items etc. get 60 to? and if all the 50's would get instant 60? clear up those things please because I hear a lot of grinding whines in general chat!
Dalkor
02-16-2011, 02:24 PM
Well, since everybody is doing his own previsions about this new Expansion, i say mine...
Why can't it be that max lvl is still 50, and as u get to that lvl, a new "specialization" is opened to you: warmaster... which is a 10 lvls specialization... for which u can lvl up ONLY by killing realm enemies, it means a new xp bar appears, parallel to normal one, that indicates new status of warmaster and how many xp left for next (warmaster) lvl...
unrealistic??? perhaps :P
No need of new XP bar. Just different color. As it was when there was Fatigue.
Knekelvoeste
02-16-2011, 02:30 PM
Well, since everybody is doing his own previsions about this new Expansion, i say mine...
Why can't it be that max lvl is still 50, and as u get to that lvl, a new "specialization" is opened to you: warmaster... which is a 10 lvls specialization... for which u can lvl up ONLY by killing realm enemies, it means a new xp bar appears, parallel to normal one, that indicates new status of warmaster and how many xp left for next (warmaster) lvl...
unrealistic??? perhaps :P
Wow that actually sounds very interesting! I would like to see gear etc still at lvl 50 max but you can get new skills to lvl 60 and when you reached that you will get special armor etc from warmasters that is only available to lvl 60 warmaster and lvl 50 class
Dalkor
02-16-2011, 02:38 PM
Wow that actually sounds very interesting! I would like to see gear etc still at lvl 50 max but you can get new skills to lvl 60 and when you reached that you will get special armor etc from warmasters that is only available to lvl 60 warmaster and lvl 50 class
Exactly, that was my idea...
ice_zero_cool
02-16-2011, 03:46 PM
I wouldnt like that... what about the persons living in a "dead-hour", not that i care, i live in a good time zone, but not all persons have that kind of "luck"
that would be pretty unfair for them... would be equal to the gear that "will be useless, because its lvl is too low"
Miraculix
02-16-2011, 04:12 PM
Well, since everybody is doing his own previsions about this new Expansion, i say mine...
Why can't it be that max lvl is still 50, and as u get to that lvl, a new "specialization" is opened to you: warmaster... which is a 10 lvls specialization... for which u can lvl up ONLY by killing realm enemies, it means a new xp bar appears, parallel to normal one, that indicates new status of warmaster and how many xp left for next (warmaster) lvl...
unrealistic??? perhaps :P
lol, say hi to the latest RO ragequitter, the fresh lvl50 six months from now who tries to grind the next levels on lvl60's (which the server is now full of) but can barely touch them before getting 1-shotted.
You can all have your little fantasies till monday I suppose, which is when everyone will start to grind mobs like crazy :D
Eyfura
02-16-2011, 04:23 PM
Hoping im not banned day by day, as always, since people love to harass me in game (you know who you are)
I hope too, it's so sad when someone harass someone in online game :-( maybe they don't realize there's real person behind virtual character, who may feel bad...
On topic: really nice NGD, i was hoping something new on map and got it! I would love if you redo more areas. Some trees looks pathetic imo
Gabburtjuh
02-16-2011, 04:24 PM
All I hope is that if there are new skills, they will be lvld with different power points and discipline points, because most classes are already short of power points, and with more disciple points very OP builds would become possible(e.g., barb 19 wep 19 warcies 19 2h mastery 15 tactics etc etc)
53453467734534
02-16-2011, 05:42 PM
Ok , letīs wait until next Monday.
Enhancing the WZ (Blog part 2) is at least a nice thing.
I'm pretty sure leveling to 60 will be based on "player of the week"-like ranking, so XP or RP will not be used.
Alzaroth_
02-16-2011, 08:04 PM
News from Amun:
New kind of money with a W symbol
New kind of premium item: armor enhancement.
All I saw for now cause for no reason I was lvl 1 there...
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 08:05 PM
I just went on to see the changes on Amun. First thing i noticed is i can't equip any of my gear because im not the required level. Another thing i noticed that kinda bugged me was my exp was down to 3 million something to be level 50. I know you are changing the exp curve and everything for players for the new lv 60 max. But, having 15 million exp on my current knight atm, shouldn't people with that much exp be rewarded instead of punished? It took about 2 years to get 15 mil exp from grinding without boosters, alone, on a beach, with a knightxD because i always had a feeling, like with many mmo's, that the lv will be increased one day.
The way to get lv 60 hasn't been explained at all yet but if it is with exp, i don't think you should be able to knock off like 8 million from people that earned it, veeerrrryyy slowly:P If it will be with another medium then i think it's ok. But it seems i can level up with exp on mobs atm on amun, and to lose all my hard earned exp, i think that's not fair at all.
Knekelvoeste
02-16-2011, 08:06 PM
I just went on to see the changes on Amun. First thing i noticed is i can't equip any of my gear because im not the required level. So to equip an alasthor pauldron for example i have to become lv 62?
Another thing i noticed that kinda bugged me was my exp was down to 3 million something to be level 50. I know you are changing the exp curve and everything for players for the new lv 60 max. But, having 15 million exp on my current knight atm, shouldn't people with that much exp be rewarded instead of punished? It took about 2 years to get 15 mil exp from grinding without boosters, alone, on a beach, with a knightxD because i always had a feeling, like with many mmo's, that the lv will be increased one day.
The way to get lv 60 hasn't been explained at all yet but if it is with exp, i don't think you should be able to knock off like 8 million from people that earned it, veeerrrryyy slowly:P If it will be with another medium then i think it's ok.
Same story for gear all for nothing also
tjanex
02-16-2011, 08:06 PM
How it's on Amun now:
- Enchantments on your armor yeeeeey (BUT ITS PREMIUM :dumbofme::dumbofme::dumbofme:)
- as Hunter I hit 200 on a challenging mob with a crappy bow
- Why a crappy bow? Because my bow is lvl 51!
- Lol why would you grind anylonger in the new update do it now fast!? NOPE xp reset everyone starts at lvl 50 with the same amount of xp doesn't matter who spend 9 years of grinding
- Well hwo much to lvl 51 then? ''We adjust the xp curve'', yeeey another 400k to grind till lvl 51 so what's next, 800k xp lvl 59-60?
If this is like Amun... I'll be pissed of, first of all give premium users an advantage AGAIN, then make lvl 50 armor parts NOW lvl 51 then so people can't use them ''grats ngd'', and then you make us grind even longer :dumbofme::poster_spam::confused:
gluffs
02-16-2011, 08:12 PM
Ye the loss off exp and the fact that i cant use my shield and Spear on amun is
worrying me. How do you expect ppl to lvl up in grind or in war when they cant
use their weapons or equipement?
Castingbeast
02-16-2011, 08:15 PM
All I saw for now cause for no reason I was lvl 1 there...
At least u were lvl1 lol, my chars on amun are gone, i had to choose realm again ffs, i hope its a bug....
Not to mention that i cant use my current bows, what the fk should i grind with now, buy one from the store?????
This whole thing pisses me off, i hope its not the final version and they gonna change this shit
http://www.regnumonlinegame.com/forum/images/smilies/violito.gif
Pwnography
02-16-2011, 08:16 PM
Meh, logging in atm to try it.
If i have to grind again to use my gear i dont think ill mind...or will i? O.o
tjanex
02-16-2011, 08:18 PM
They ever thought about people that grinded 2 years to be in rankings and if they reset xp now they lose the thing they have spend 20 years on?
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 08:21 PM
Well hopefully on live servers we get to keep our exp, or at least have it changed to match the new exp curve. I feel really really bad for the people who have over 20 mil exp. That's not fair at all. But it's amun so might not be like that on live.
Knekelvoeste
02-16-2011, 08:22 PM
Well hopefully on live servers we get to keep our exp, or at least have it changed to match the new exp curve. I feel really really bad for the people who have over 20 mil exp. That's not fair at all. But it's amun so might not be like that on live.
I should be at least 51 on Amun and 53 with Ares :P
Knekelvoeste
02-16-2011, 08:23 PM
How it's on Amun now:
- Enchantments on your armor yeeeeey (BUT ITS PREMIUM :dumbofme::dumbofme::dumbofme:)
- as Hunter I hit 200 on a challenging mob with a crappy bow
- Why a crappy bow? Because my bow is lvl 51!
- Lol why would you grind anylonger in the new update do it now fast!? NOPE xp reset everyone starts at lvl 50 with the same amount of xp doesn't matter who spend 9 years of grinding
- Well hwo much to lvl 51 then? ''We adjust the xp curve'', yeeey another 400k to grind till lvl 51 so what's next, 800k xp lvl 59-60?
If this is like Amun... I'll be pissed of, first of all give premium users an advantage AGAIN, then make lvl 50 armor parts NOW lvl 51 then so people can't use them ''grats ngd'', and then you make us grind even longer :dumbofme::poster_spam::confused:
Again premium players get what they deserve! :D /me buys some experience scrolls :D
tjanex
02-16-2011, 08:25 PM
Ye right soon this is like WoW you have to pay for the game, but not directly just to be ''someone'' get some good stuff and be able to do things other can't, ok horse doesn't matter to me, but +enchantements this goes too far.
Pwnography
02-16-2011, 08:26 PM
20 years on?
Madness!
meh. war grinding will be fun.
Kitsuni
02-16-2011, 08:27 PM
It is not a level 50 reset. Players under level 50 lost exp too, at lv44 I have lost around 1.3 million xp, and now have only 1.7, which is alot of money and time wasted on grinding that I have to do again to not even reach the maximum level. I really hope they don't do this, because if so the update is looking quite bad. I have gone from being 50% of the way from the max level, to being 70% of the way from the max level.
Elvamp
02-16-2011, 08:30 PM
Te pings there are very high, almost nothing can be done XD About the resetting everyones exp, it' doesn't matter for me if it stays or gets changed, I have round 6kk of exp so it doesn't affect me. What is more interesting for me is that magna bow stayed at lvl 45 with the same stats, even though the item lvl of magna lb is 57. If this is going to stay all those that made magna weapons had made really bad deal :P They were weak for their price with lvl 50 cap. They are even worse with lvl 60 cap.
Gaining lvls should not be much of a problem, ~300 exp for killing easy player alone. And there is grind while dead hours.
-Logan-
02-16-2011, 08:32 PM
They said not being able to equip your items is an error. They will change the levels to what they should be.
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 08:33 PM
xD the exp may not matter to most that have around 7 mil exp, but it will certainly matter to those that have more than double the lv 50 requirement lol.
@ logan, good news^^
What i saw on Amun:
- a lot of lag, due to slow testing server
- nice work around Alga
- new high level mobs (impossible for current level 50)
- it seems hunter damages were increased
- armor pieces have a specific slot, dunno what it is yet (a bit like weapons + gems)
- new currency (w), no idea yet
- XP divided by 2
- i can't wear my stuff anymore (since most is over level 50, to be fixed)
Then i crashed.
They said not being able to equip your items is an error. They will change the levels to what they should be.
How ?
Nerf the items ?
DkySven
02-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Please do not panic about having less xp on Amun yet.
Remember how barbarian damage got tuned down on Amun which got a lot of barbs complaining. Shortly afterwards NGD added fulminating and barbarians suddenly could deal great normal hits.
blood-raven
02-16-2011, 08:38 PM
can't log on amun, i get a code error :(
Kitsuni
02-16-2011, 08:42 PM
Please do not panic about having less xp on Amun yet.
Remember how barbarian damage got tuned down on Amun which got a lot of barbs complaining. Shortly afterwards NGD added fulminating and barbarians suddenly could deal great normal hits.
Okay thanks for posting. Hopefully NGD will rethink this a bit based upon community feedback.
-Logan-
02-16-2011, 08:42 PM
How ?
Nerf the items ?
They made an announcement that it was an error.
If you had lvl 50 gauntlets and the item level was 52, they appeared as level 52 gauntlets and not level 50. It's just an error with the other item level replacing the other.
fritsz
02-16-2011, 08:52 PM
My tunic says:
Requires conjurer lvl 50
Item lvl 51
So at new servers the item lvl is counting not the requirements?
Edit: sorry didnt read above yet^^
Anyriand
02-16-2011, 08:58 PM
So I tested in Amun a bit and you can get plenty of xp for killing enemies, around 800 for a lvl 50, not too bad. I'm just wondering if we can get xp for capping forts? Anyone tried that?
-Logan-
02-16-2011, 09:03 PM
Quick summary for those who don't know:
- New easier to use dialogue window for NPC's.
- New mechanic for armors, called enchantments, similar to gems for weapons.
- All exp beyond 50 was wiped clean for everyone (Might not be final)
- At the moment no XP from capturing forts, no master coins (the new currency) for killing players or capturing forts either.
- New NPC's in capital cities, give quests for the new currency. You can buy some items like these:
http://i.imgur.com/r5LRP.jpg
Additional note: Ignis Swamp has no visual changes, only some new high level monsters.
Amun = Testing server. All changes there are not set in stone. Why blow a blood vessel now?. You have Monday afternoon to do that xD.
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 09:08 PM
With a quest like that i can see some insane wars going on for a very long time:P
kill 50 players to get 1000 points
need over 40k points for awesome new weapon plus armors = alot of warxD
As well as boost in selling teleport scrolls.
Vaylos
02-16-2011, 09:11 PM
--Edit--
Took me awhile to type that, this was in response to the xp slate being wiped clean post-50
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I know having been doing all that grinding of xp all that time and then having everything reset as a "clean slate" seems like it sucks, but I believe it is the most fair solution to everyone.
Having the xp changed to match the xp curve would be fine, and having our current level adjusted to be what it should be with the new curve, but the last thing I want to see is a buncha "poof, I'm 60!" just because they accrued xp grinding for items all that time.
I do not mind grinding further since we'll be able to gain xp through war. Though if it was mobs only, my thoughts might be reversed, and I would agree with Ulti. But it is because of gaining xp through war that I think everyone should start off the same.
What I'm more concerned about is if the same xp rules apply in war as they do with mobs. If they do, then there may be problems with lower level players being able to get XP in war as their "fair share" will be completely overshadowed by higher level "uber 60" players.
If it works more like the system for gaining RP, it might not be as much of a problem. Even I can usually get 3 to 4 to 5 (sometimes 6) RP helping out in wars as a hunter.
This is all speculation, and I'm still taking a wait-and-see stance because I don't know how the warzone XP system will work. I do hope it is different and more favorable than the xp system used with mobs.
Gabburtjuh
02-16-2011, 09:23 PM
Amun is down now? I connected, got disconnected, C012 error
DkySven
02-16-2011, 09:26 PM
There is new stuff at Amun and at the same time hundreds of people try to download the new update for it and want to connect to the server. This makes that Amun is not very stable at the moment.
Is there a reason why I can't acces my Horus characters on Amun?
Gabburtjuh
02-16-2011, 09:38 PM
So, I'm poor, low on xim, has anyone gotten something besides % resist stuff from enchantments?
mr_scsi
02-16-2011, 09:51 PM
kill 50 players to get 1000 points
need over 40k points for awesome new weapon plus armors = alot of warxD
+1
but you missed the subtlety of the quest requirement- 50 UNIQUE players.
meaning you can't get your <insert enemy realm here> friend to let you kill him 50 times........ NGD getting wise to the scammers and glitchers :thumb:
_Seinvan
02-16-2011, 09:53 PM
I like what I see on Amun.
Keep em comin NGD :thumb:
Wyatt
02-16-2011, 10:01 PM
Is there a reason why I can't acces my Horus characters on Amun?
The feature to copy characters to Amun is currently off at the moment.
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 10:04 PM
About the exp curve and change. I liked your post Marek, so im thinking yeah it's not fair for a bunch of lv 60's to just pop up, but at the same time it's not that fair for someone who has 33 mil exp to lose that all.
So how about letting us keep at least 1/4th of the additional exp past lv 50 that we have in live servers. That, I think would be a nice idea. It would reward the people who grinded a ton in hopes of one day there being a lv cap increase, and it would keep things at least abit fair.
My heart goes out to the guy with 34 million expxD That must have taken forever.
Kitsuni
02-16-2011, 10:04 PM
NGD has said in another thread that players "beyond" 50 will be compensated for experience booster scrolls. My question is, will players who are lower than 50 be compensated too? Mobs still give the same experience as they did before the update, that means that I should legally be around level 48, as it was experience that I earned through legitimate grinding. I know many people don't think it is a big deal, and I am not saying it is, but still, losing half of your expeirence when you aren't even the max level is a huge setback, one that will kill the spirits of all of those who have taken a long time to get to where they are in the game, and who have never even been able to enjoy the maximum level on a given class, and now quite possibly never will.
(Please take note, this is just an inquiry, not a complaint.)
Xavion
02-16-2011, 10:22 PM
So we all lose our xp?
Becouse on Amun I think we all have 3.3mil xp
How much till 60 do we need?
Immune
02-16-2011, 10:24 PM
Seeing how we now get xp from players now, do xp scrolls work in the same way with them now as with mobs?
Ulti19
02-16-2011, 10:55 PM
Seeing how we now get xp from players now, do xp scrolls work in the same way with them now as with mobs?
Yeah i tested exp scrolls on players and you get the bonus to everything, grp, realm, and base exp.
EpicAzan
02-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Can't wait for this too come! and we still have a entire week in front of us full of anouncements and i saw on twitter that NGD is even going to make a new warmasters trailer :D
we are witnessing historical times for regnum you guys! This is bigger then then mubarak's resignation!!!!
Immune
02-16-2011, 11:20 PM
I noticed that the warmaster armor/weapons are all level 60. Will there be anything added for levels 51-59?
tallhair
02-16-2011, 11:35 PM
I noticed that the warmaster armor/weapons are all level 60. Will there be anything added for levels 51-59?
Awesome Question would love to get an answer to that one.:alsius:
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