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bad_715
08-11-2012, 03:08 PM
Recharged Arrow is what defines and makes a marksman if you nerf or take away this you are killing the marksman class... make it back the way it was.

The Poll asks, make things back the way the were for marksman ?

Yes?
No?

_Emin_
08-11-2012, 03:11 PM
This is the english forum.

Tenel_Ka
08-11-2012, 03:35 PM
This is the english forum.
Maybe that's why he wrote his post in English :lighten: Probably wants our opinion, too.

Shwish
08-11-2012, 03:37 PM
can someone translate the question. im too lazy to do it myself

_Emin_
08-11-2012, 03:38 PM
Maybe that's why he wrote his post in English :lighten: Probably wants our opinion, too.

He wrote it in Spanish when I posted my comment. Also look at his poll, it's in Spanish, too.

Tenel_Ka
08-11-2012, 03:42 PM
He wrote it in Spanish when I posted my comment. Also look at his poll, it's in Spanish, too.

He's already made the same poll in Spanish forums, I think

Tenel_Ka
08-11-2012, 03:51 PM
I voted No.

As a marksman who is a fast bow user, I've been hit hard by this nerf. However, I think it was necessary and for the better. Marksman just has too many strengths.

byakurai
08-11-2012, 03:55 PM
can someone translate the question. im too lazy to do it myself

Put recharged arrows as they were before (sorry, my english is a shit :(!)

NotScias
08-11-2012, 03:56 PM
Recharged Arrow is what defines and makes a marksman if you nerf or take away this you are killing the marksman class...

This is so wrong.
Marksmen still have have much more besides RA : Damage, range, evasion, tricks, defense all at once...

I agree that this nerf isn't appropriate but please this is far to kill the class.

kmdk
08-12-2012, 12:21 AM
This is so wrong...
This is so wrong.
Marksmen still have have much more besides RA : ...Damage..

Damage of marksman is give by RA . With RA he gains more dmg than a hunter.Without RA he has same dmg as hunter.
Wtv...i don't voted on the poll because any nerf made in game will never return at same point.
As a example it's confuse that had over 300 votes to be nefred and never was.
I don't like that ngd force us to play a certain setup,and make half of trees with spells useless.

NotScias
08-12-2012, 01:44 AM
Damage of marksman is give by RA . With RA he gains more dmg than a hunter.Without RA he has same dmg as hunter.

First, you act like if RA was totally removed, which is wrong. It's just given a downside that I believe is insignifiant in a decent RvR scenario.

Then, You seem to forget that a Dex point gives more damage to Marks than Hunters.
You also forgot the whole Arrow Mastery tree that got a good bunch of damagings and DoT spell + Ignore defense one that is unrivaled by hunters.
This plus Dead Eye and Hawks that greatly improves the DPS.

What hunters have over Marks in term of raw damage are Cold blood and Ensnaring, the first one being so short that is useless unless on surprise ganking while the latter is good but far to match all what Marksmen have alone.

So yeah Marks is still a good way above Hunter concerning overall damage even without RA at all, be it via normals or spells. And this even with non-uber gear. Don't tell me a hunter can match the damage from the Arrow Mastering tree alone except in some very particuliar situations...

Now the (broken) way the Armor system is working might make the difference much less obvious versus some people or under some circumstances, but in term of raw damage output/dps and assuming equal gear, I cannot see how a Hunter could match a Marks even without him using RA at all, assuming the marks isn't a static turret using only normals and thus highly depending on RA.

As a example it's confuse that had over 300 votes to be nefred and never was.

Confuse was 35s before, now 22s and limited to Hunters so I don't know how to call it besides a nerf. Hence why almost no one complains about it anymore ?

As usual we don't really know in what kind of world you are living to throw so much unfounded nonsense on almost every balance topic. (because default color is too mainstream)

trulyem
08-12-2012, 07:03 PM
... I cannot see how a Hunter could match a Marks even without him using RA at all, assuming the marks isn't a static turret using only normals and thus highly depending on RA.

You haven't played enough to see how destructive cold blood is. So many hunter abused videos lately. You might want to check it out.

Shwish
08-12-2012, 10:14 PM
You haven't played enough to see how destructive cold blood is. So many hunter abused videos lately. You might want to check it out.

A hunter doing the same damage as a marksman for 6 seconds isn't that destructive

Tamui
08-12-2012, 10:25 PM
A hunter doing the same damage as a marksman for 6 seconds isn't that destructive

Actually a hunter can do more damage than a marksman. Now depending on what class he is fighting against.

Shwish
08-13-2012, 07:09 AM
Actually a hunter can do more damage than a marksman. Now depending on what class he is fighting against.

It still only lasts 6 seconds and is very predictable.