How to make sure no one plays warriors... - Page 2

BigManOnCampus · 06-17-2010, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritsossss

I agree with most of your points, i hate support grinders because it is borring but when i get more xp for it i would do it.

The only one i really really disagree is giving warriors speed passive. Mages cant run away, the only defence i have against a barb is that they need to be close to hit me. They have to use speeds = mana = less buffs or south cross/forceful blow.
If you really want to make no one playing mages anymore give warriors a speed boost.

But, hunters already have speed boosts, and can hit you from range. Methinks you doth protest too much.

Besides which, warriors need speed boosts because they're the only class that *MUST* get within close range to be effective. Without speed as a warrior, you'll simply be kited by both locks and archers. Locks will have lots of CC to use to keep you from getting close/attacking. Archers can just run and CC a warrior to death.

Anyriand · 06-17-2010, 12:56 PM

+1 Windri, very well said.

I can't stress this enough, conjurers don't get enough xp as they should in support setup, that together with the fact that it's so frustrating to play support at war because of the casting times and cooldowns makes people prefer a warju setup.

I've grinded my conju to 50 on warju setup, zarkit+mental. As things are now it would've taken me twice as much time in a support setup.
Make regen ally a pre-buff, cut down the casting times in heal ally and synergy, reduce the cooldown of heals. In support setup, one cast per ally should be enough to get xp, and not 20/mob, make it even with the other classes.

I don't quite agree with nerfing warjurers though. I believe everyone should play their class how the heck they want to, but I if conjurers were more effective in their role in wz I'm pretty sure we'd see less warjurers and more support conjurers.

I've recently stopped playing my conjurer for fun, simply because it isn't fun at all... I will still log it if we don't have anyone else available, but I rather not play support. You get the constant criticism even when you're doing your best, so I rather not be bothered with it and play other class where ppl aren't so dependant on you. And because I refuse to be a warjurer, and because I have other chars, I have the choice of playing other classes, but people who have a conjurer as their only class don't really have that choice.

I still think warriors are in dire need of balance, especially barbs, but if those changes in CD's and casting time were to take place, I'm pretty sure they'd be a lot easier and enjoyable to play. Decent support goes a long way.

fritsz · 06-17-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigManOnCampus

But, hunters already have speed boosts, and can hit you from range. Methinks you doth protest too much.

Besides which, warriors need speed boosts because they're the only class that *MUST* get within close range to be effective. Without speed as a warrior, you'll simply be kited by both locks and archers. Locks will have lots of CC to use to keep you from getting close/attacking. Archers can just run and CC a warrior to death.

That will make an imbalance again, i think it is better then to give warriors a passive resist against knocks or higher defence.

06-17-2010, 12:56 PM	#12
Anyriand Initiate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 139	+1 Windri, very well said. I can't stress this enough, conjurers don't get enough xp as they should in support setup, that together with the fact that it's so frustrating to play support at war because of the casting times and cooldowns makes people prefer a warju setup. I've grinded my conju to 50 on warju setup, zarkit+mental. As things are now it would've taken me twice as much time in a support setup. Make regen ally a pre-buff, cut down the casting times in heal ally and synergy, reduce the cooldown of heals. In support setup, one cast per ally should be enough to get xp, and not 20/mob, make it even with the other classes. I don't quite agree with nerfing warjurers though. I believe everyone should play their class how the heck they want to, but I if conjurers were more effective in their role in wz I'm pretty sure we'd see less warjurers and more support conjurers. I've recently stopped playing my conjurer for fun, simply because it isn't fun at all... I will still log it if we don't have anyone else available, but I rather not play support. You get the constant criticism even when you're doing your best, so I rather not be bothered with it and play other class where ppl aren't so dependant on you. And because I refuse to be a warjurer, and because I have other chars, I have the choice of playing other classes, but people who have a conjurer as their only class don't really have that choice. I still think warriors are in dire need of balance, especially barbs, but if those changes in CD's and casting time were to take place, I'm pretty sure they'd be a lot easier and enjoyable to play. Decent support goes a long way. __________________ Anyriand - WM Knight Ayasha- WM Marksman Any - WM Conjurer ---HAVEN Toradora- WM Conjurer ---RA Last edited by Anyriand; 06-18-2010 at 05:05 PM.