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Old 08-10-2010, 03:34 AM   #1
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/me taps his foot anxiously....

ons still doesnt affect the caster.... i think that you should leave onslaught alone and barbs will be "ehhhh ok i guess".

hell, if u were feeling REALLY generous, you could also make Off With Their Heads affect the caster as well.

i think that to compromise, onslaught and off with their heads ONLY affect the caster IF it also affects another ally.

FOR INSTANCE:

1) a barb is running to a fort, no one else is around, he casts ons and nothing will happen.

2) a barb is next to an ally, he casts onslaught and both the ally AND the barb get the affects. (works with any number of allies).
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:37 AM   #2
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/me taps his foot anxiously....

ons still doesnt affect the caster.... i think that you should leave onslaught alone and barbs will be "ehhhh ok i guess".

hell, if u were feeling REALLY generous, you could also make Off With Their Heads affect the caster as well.

i think that to compromise, onslaught and off with their heads ONLY affect the caster IF it also affects another ally.

FOR INSTANCE:

1) a barb is running to a fort, no one else is around, he casts ons and nothing will happen.

2) a barb is next to an ally, he casts onslaught and both the ally AND the barb get the affects. (works with any number of allies).
Excellent compromise. If you think about it, with the current onslaught on Amun, one barb in a group can't charge with his allies. Unless he uses spring, and that's 10% lower (right?). And it's another chunk of mana the barb loses.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:13 AM   #3
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I recommend that NGD change Onslaught to the following:
- No allies - No movement speed bonus
- 1 ally +10% movement speed
- 2 allies +20% movement speed
- 3 allies +30% movement speed
- 4 allies +40% movement speed
- 5 allies +50% movement speed (the maximum allowed)

And make it affect the caster as well. This change will prevent its use for PvP only, and make it very war-oriented. The downside is that it will no longer be able to give a single Conj that super boost, but that is probably what NGD prefers.

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Old 08-10-2010, 10:47 AM   #4
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Why the hell "increase damage for hunters" ? The problem of this class overpowered is their pet- big atack range of for example Giant Troll. There is no chances versus 4 hunters with their pets. I know you tryied to made hunter loosing pet after "kicking" into camo, but don't make them fast running mini-marksman.
Marksman should be range damage dealer, hunter - scout (who is "eyes of army").
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:21 AM   #5
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Marksman should be range damage dealer, hunter - scout (who is "eyes of army").
I dare you to fucking let me nerf to someone that can skill camo, track and speed and thats all i would need for my "task" if you think this way is fun to play, go make a hunter and try it ffs.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:37 AM   #6
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I dare you to fucking let me nerf to someone that can skill camo, track and speed and thats all i would need for my "task" if you think this way is fun to play, go make a hunter and try it ffs.
At this moment i'm making scout-hunter for my alt. I had 34 but deleted it. Trust me when you are in a team they really want your track, not another damage dealer. Your ambushes/ confuse makes them better group.

Trust me thats annoying when typical noobish hunter atacking you when you're grinding on war zone. Many times when you fight with mob , he is full of fun when he beat even 50lvl (conjurer) using both mob and his overpowered pet + ambush 5lvl. Really fun? Thats a noobish way.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:05 PM   #7
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At this moment i'm making scout-hunter for my alt. I had 34 but deleted it. Trust me when you are in a team they really want your track, not another damage dealer. Your ambushes/ confuse makes them better group.

Trust me thats annoying when typical noobish hunter atacking you when you're grinding on war zone. Many times when you fight with mob , he is full of fun when he beat even 50lvl (conjurer) using both mob and his overpowered pet + ambush 5lvl. Really fun? Thats a noobish way.
1. im petless
2. ambush4
3. dont fight a mob in conj setup
4. i dont even have fun hunting, im grinding alts/chatting when nothing is happening
5. confuse sucks, id hate to skill it, its the most lame spell of RO
6. not another damage dealer, a scout thats 7% faster and only can track and camo is maybe good for them, but what about the hunter himself, a conjurer feels usefull, a knight feels usefull, they can both skill for dmg to, a hunter that only tracks and hopes his tracks arent bugged, when he cant skill for dmg, since pets are screwed(np with that), you feel useless, trust me, tried full "support hunter"
1. ppl hate you for having lvl 19 tricks
2. You feel utterly useless when you track something, and half of the group needs to fap over 1 rp from the easy mage i tracked while on our way to a fort.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:15 PM   #8
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You feel utterly useless when you track something, and half of the group needs to fap over 1 rp from the easy mage i tracked while on our way to a fort.
Then don't announce it.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:17 PM   #9
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1. im petless
2. ambush4
3. dont fight a mob in conj setup
4. i dont even have fun hunting, im grinding alts/chatting when nothing is happening
5. confuse sucks, id hate to skill it, its the most lame spell of RO
6. not another damage dealer, a scout thats 7% faster and only can track and camo is maybe good for them, but what about the hunter himself, a conjurer feels usefull, a knight feels usefull, they can both skill for dmg to, a hunter that only tracks and hopes his tracks arent bugged, when he cant skill for dmg, since pets are screwed(np with that), you feel useless, trust me, tried full "support hunter"
1. ppl hate you for having lvl 19 tricks
2. You feel utterly useless when you track something, and half of the group needs to fap over 1 rp from the easy mage i tracked while on our way to a fort.
Exactly. Support hunters as they are now can be described in one word: Useless. And which spells could you add, so that they'd become useful? Give them heal? lol...
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