New Balance Update: Armor system fix (Stage 11)

KKharzov · 08-31-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT

A blunt and pierce damaging Hammer would do much less damage than a slash damaging Axe.

Really? I never saw that, on the contrary depending on bonuses the multiple damage weapon would do even more damage (on normal hits only).

Either way, I guess this means +dmg gems will have more value now.

Isemon · 08-31-2010, 09:39 AM

i just tested on amun and i would like to submit what i tested to NGD attention:

damage done by a hunter with a fast 30 short bow:
-115-121 on an unbuffed mage without any kind of setup
-133-143 on an unbuffed mage skilling with dexerity to the max
-140-161 on the same unbuffed target with the addiction of specialist passive damage
-289-293 on the same target still unbuffed with dex+specialist+cold blood

on a buffed target my damage do not reach 100

After that i tested pet damage, and it is obvious it is not needed a nerf to bestial wrath anymore or that pet discipline need an improvement like it was done for summons:

-189-210 was the damage of the pet on an unbuffed archer with bestial wrath ofc
-98-110 was the damage of the pet on a full buffed archer with bestial wrath

the damage of the pet was 0 on a full buffed knight

New_barb · 08-31-2010, 10:37 AM

this sounds logic to me..? hunters shouldn't hit high on warriors and btw what buffs did he used? not say full buffed knight because some knights has other buffs then some others...

Isemon · 08-31-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir-barb

this sounds logic to me..? hunters shouldn't hit high on warriors and btw what buffs did he used? not say full buffed knight because some knights has other buffs then some others...

with the current state of hunter they cannot hit high on anyone(they couldn't even before the balance, their damage came almost all from pet), the knight was using caution + defensive stance

i just mean that hunter should have still a chance to win on 1 vs 1, with armour changes and hunter nerfs it is not possible anymore.

Creror · 08-31-2010, 11:40 AM

After playing some old rpgs on the ps2, I stumbled over ... something very strange ...

Well ... well ... i don't know how to say this, but ... was that intended? oO

Especially the head and the floating limbs looks very very similar ...

blood-raven · 08-31-2010, 11:43 AM

euh full buffed i do 0 dmg on a knight, is this a joke or what?

regards

Shwish · 08-31-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blood-raven

euh full buffed i do 0 dmg on a knight, is this a joke or what?

regards

it seems that the maximum damage reduction cap was removed. i hope this is just an error

UmarilsStillHere · 08-31-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Creror

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Because no game has ever had metal golems before?

If you look at wolves, golems, gouls, orcs etc in almost ever game they look similar.

I like the new Lichs, but the higher level ones could do with new staves, they all still use initiation ones

And Cristal Golems? I think you mean 'Crystal'

Shwish · 08-31-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

Because no game has ever had metal golems before?

Guild Wars: Eye of the North?

EDIT: my sarcasm detector was turned off u.u

08-31-2010, 09:39 AM	#2
Isemon Initiate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 127	i just tested on amun and i would like to submit what i tested to NGD attention: damage done by a hunter with a fast 30 short bow: -115-121 on an unbuffed mage without any kind of setup -133-143 on an unbuffed mage skilling with dexerity to the max -140-161 on the same unbuffed target with the addiction of specialist passive damage -289-293 on the same target still unbuffed with dex+specialist+cold blood on a buffed target my damage do not reach 100 After that i tested pet damage, and it is obvious it is not needed a nerf to bestial wrath anymore or that pet discipline need an improvement like it was done for summons: -189-210 was the damage of the pet on an unbuffed archer with bestial wrath ofc -98-110 was the damage of the pet on a full buffed archer with bestial wrath the damage of the pet was 0 on a full buffed knight __________________ Italiani di Syrtis Isemon[Conjurer] - Hunthor[Hunter] - Elrik[Barbarian] - Nekronos[Warlock]

08-31-2010, 11:43 AM	#6
blood-raven Master Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Belgium Posts: 561	euh full buffed i do 0 dmg on a knight, is this a joke or what? regards __________________ SHAKE IT LIKE A POLAR BEAR NINJA

08-31-2010, 10:37 AM	#3
New_barb Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 119	this sounds logic to me..? hunters shouldn't hit high on warriors and btw what buffs did he used? not say full buffed knight because some knights has other buffs then some others...