Invasion System Change Needed

[Kyrottimus]

Originally Posted by Anyriand

Hmm...what does that say about invasions then? It really is hard work to take down a gate and grab 2 gems when you have 5 ppl defending isn't it?
You're kinda contradicting yourself here...

I believe what we have here is a triumph of the subjective.

Through the eyes of one Ig:
When Syrtis invades with a zerg vs. only a handful of Ignis defending, it's not hard work at all for Syrtis to do that.
When Ignis invades with a zerg vs. only a handful of Syrtis/Alsius defending, it's really hard work for Ignis to do that!


So, subjectively what we have here are two possibilities:

1. A double standard where invasions are only worthy of praise when Ignis accomplishes them.

2. TheOre is indirectly inferring that somehow Ignis sucks and that even with a zerg vs. a handful of players it's real hard work to overcome that small group of half-dozen.

The only 2 times Alsius invaded and opened the portal successfully, I think we failed the first time, every time, we got on the realm gate (meaning we had to re-assemble, and try again) before we broke it, got in, broke through the chaos, grabbed the gems, and ran interference for the gem-runners.

But yeah, zerg vs. handful = weak-sauce.

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Kyrottimus

I believe what we have here is a triumph of the subjective.

Through the eyes of one Ig:
When Syrtis invades with a zerg vs. only a handful of Ignis defending, it's not hard work at all for Syrtis to do that.
When Ignis invades with a zerg vs. only a handful of Syrtis/Alsius defending, it's really hard work for Ignis to do that!


So, subjectively what we have here are two possibilities:

1. A double standard where invasions are only worthy of praise when Ignis accomplishes them.

2. TheOre is indirectly inferring that somehow Ignis sucks and that even with a zerg vs. a handful of players it's real hard work to overcome that small group of half-dozen.

The only 2 times Alsius invaded and opened the portal successfully, I think we failed the first time, every time, we got on the realm gate (meaning we had to re-assemble, and try again) before we broke it, got in, broke through the chaos, grabbed the gems, and ran interference for the gem-runners.

But yeah, zerg vs. handful = weak-sauce.

In all honesty though, even while we do intentionally invade during off-hours, our invasions are still a lot of work, and we do fail more often than we succeed. If I had to guess I'd say we have a 25% success rate (counting 1 gem gained as a success). This is rather different than the 4 (5?) invasions on new years, where the gate fell in like 1 minute all four times, without losing a single player. Just sayin'.

[Kyrottimus]

Originally Posted by VandaMan

In all honesty though, even while we do intentionally invade during off-hours, our invasions are still a lot of work, and we do fail more often than we succeed. If I had to guess I'd say we have a 25% success rate (counting 1 gem gained as a success). This is rather different than the 4 (5?) invasions on new years, where the gate fell in like 1 minute all four times, without losing a single player. Just sayin'.

I agree. But there are periods, worthy of mention, in the past month or so where I recall both Ignis and Syrtis swarming a gate with VERY few defenders.

(in some cases even when the defending realm had no gems but the invaders were simply invading to raid the low-level grinders in the inner realm or take inner-realm tours or whatever).

So I don't presume to think that all the hard work to be about gems, when after-all invasions still happen to gem-less realms. In some cases it seems rather ad-hoc and impromptu, so I would disregard those invasions as having any hard-work but rather just timing.

I guess some people just like the fun of the war and the chaos of the unexpected, which is what the 3 realms is all about in the first place.

Always interesting to have a wild-card thrown in to keep things interesting.