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European player, Windows 2000 / XP, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 6 7.89%
European player, Windows Vista, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 0 0%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 1 1.32%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 0 0%
European player, Other Linux Distro, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 4 5.26%
European player, Windows 2000 / XP, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 6 7.89%
European player, Windows Vista, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 4 5.26%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 11 14.47%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 2 2.63%
European player, Other Linux Distro, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 4 5.26%
European player, Windows 2000 / XP, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
European player, Windows Vista, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 2 2.63%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
European player, Other Linux Distro, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
European player, Windows 2000 / XP, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 3 3.95%
European player, Windows Vista, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 0 0%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 1 1.32%
European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 0 0%
European player, Other Linux Distro, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 2 2.63%
non-European player, Windows 2000 / XP, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 3 3.95%
non-European player, Windows Vista, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 1 1.32%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 1 1.32%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 0 0%
non-European player, Other Linux Distro, Nvidia GeForce 5xxx or slower 0 0%
non-European player, Windows 2000 / XP, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 9 11.84%
non-European player, Windows Vista, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 4 5.26%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 2 2.63%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 0 0%
non-European player, Other Linux Distro, Nvidia GeForce 6xxx or faster 3 3.95%
non-European player, Windows 2000 / XP, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 3 3.95%
non-European player, Windows Vista, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 2 2.63%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
non-European player, Other Linux Distro, ATI Radeon R3xx or slower 0 0%
non-European player, Windows 2000 / XP, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 1 1.32%
non-European player, Windows Vista, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 0 0%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Gutsy/Hardy), ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 0 0%
non-European player, K/X/ubuntu (Dapper/Edgy/Feisty), ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 0 0%
non-European player, Other Linux Distro, ATI Radeon R4xx or faster 1 1.32%
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:53 PM   #1
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Acer laptop
ATI X1300 Mobility Radeon + fglrx 8.5
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Ubuntu 8.04
2Mbit ADSL, stable ping 20ms

with particle effects the game goes well until there are 3 or more players in the view range, then it goes worse with FPS
when 30+ players around (fort wars) the game is absolutely unplayable (<1 FPS)
I'm sure one of the effects causing this is Regeneration, not sure about others

without particle effects, with force safe mode, the game is well playable even in fort wars
FPS in abandoned area: 30-100 depending on number of polygons
FPS in war area: 15-30 (which is still very good)

and for the server lag - I can see server lags when 600+ users online, sometimes making levelling very difficult (a mob appears suddenly in front of me and hits me 4 times in a row instead of dying far enough)
server ping is always between 80 and 120 ms (I think it's some 10-20ms worse last few days)
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:01 PM   #2
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My room mate plays on PC with Ubuntu 8.04, some newer NVidia graphics (256MB) and has all effects, including ex-dangerous antialiasing, maxed - his game runs really smoothly
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:04 PM   #3
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My room mate plays on PC with Ubuntu 8.04, some newer NVidia graphics (256MB) and has all effects, including ex-dangerous antialiasing, maxed - his game runs really smoothly
For how long does the game run smoothly? At what resolution?
I play 1680x1050 and the client runs smoothly too "for some time".

And it doesn't matter in the end with the server misplacement of players and casting delay.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:23 PM   #4
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For how long does the game run smoothly? At what resolution?
I play 1680x1050 and the client runs smoothly too "for some time".

And it doesn't matter in the end with the server misplacement of players and casting delay.
I don't know how long exactly, it could be a month or two? before that, antialiasing (and maybe something else too) was often causing crashes...so he used to play with min detail
now I can see no flaws on his () 1680x1050 display during playing regnum - but surely I can't see everything
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:07 PM   #5
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I don't know how long exactly, it could be a month or two? before that, antialiasing (and maybe something else too) was often causing crashes...so he used to play with min detail
now I can see no flaws on his () 1680x1050 display during playing regnum - but surely I can't see everything
I'm saying "how long" regarding the playing sessions. Does he play at fort wars for 2 hours without the FPS value going down to a point where it's unplayable?
For the record I'm also playing Regnum under Ubuntu with a monster PC.
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #6
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I'm constantly amazed by how the forum, and more specifically complaining, seems a bigger part of the Regnum experience than the game for some people. So many users reaching their monthly climax of disgust at what a terrible, terrible game Regnum is, and how they are never coming back, but can still be found posting a week later, still complaining. Regularly gathering together for the grand exit, the regular occurrence of the devs making some *inexcusable* action that *will* cause *all* to leave the game, following those who fight for the rights of the users against the evil developers, except that grand excursion never happens does it. Nope people are still on playing, as ever. Some of us actually enjoy playing the game, hard to believe, but it's true. Some of us, really *don't* have performance issues.

So, one thread, one thread, clearly stated, comment and post if you *don't* have a performance issues with Regnum...


My best to you gamemod, I really don't envy your job. And as ever my best to the devs, constantly having to suffer an avalache of abuse and criticism, marked occasionaly with a satisfied grunt when the ranks of oh so distinguished long timer players deem you've done something satisfactory in their eyes.

Yah, and I know I keep saying I'm gonna quit these forums, then I come back, it's because one of these days I hope the bunch of you that keep quitting actually do quit, and this forum gets the chance to grow and blossom a little. I get the feeling you just enjoying complaining. As it stands at the minute nobody can say anything positive or constructive on these forums without it getting beaten down, every thread however specifically and politely titled is turned into another moan thread, and is pulled off topic to match the rest.

Well see you in a month or so I guess...

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Old 06-19-2008, 04:09 PM   #7
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Some of us, really *don't* have performance issues.
I'm sorry Trix but I simply don't believe you. Maybe you just don't have the same standards. When we're talking about "lag", people are either referring to server side lag *that's happening for ALL AND EVERY PLAYER* regardless of your computer and location! So even being the NGD apologist you are (personally I don't think it does any good to the game) you just can't ignore this. Try playing Warlock if you want to notice server lag -- when you cast a 3s spell with devotion and it takes 5s it has nothing to do with your client.

As for CLIENT PERFORMANCE issues, they depend on two things: (1) your computer and its setup (you can do something about that) (2) the game code (you can't do anything about that). Once again, the code is the same for every player out there (whether you run the Linux or Windows version, the differences are only platform specific) so the memory leaks and bad memory management are there for everyone as well, they have been acknowledged by NGD, what's more to add?

I understand you may like to dismiss that with the back of your hand but imho your poll doesn't make sense. It should be "With which setup do you play Regnum with high framerate?" and it has nothing to do with where do you play. I don't want to put you down at all, it's just not scientifically sound, and this is my job after all so I can't remain silent .
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:49 PM   #8
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I'm saying "how long" regarding the playing sessions. Does he play at fort wars for 2 hours without the FPS value going down to a point where it's unplayable?
For the record I'm also playing Regnum under Ubuntu with a monster PC.
sorry, I'm not a native english speaker ... or reader
afaik he can play no matter how long (6 hours in a row) no matter if conquering forts or levelling alone - and of course he has a monster PC too
I've never heard from him about regnum being unplayable...(only from myself when enabled particle effects)
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sorry, I'm not a native english speaker ... or reader
afaik he can play no matter how long (6 hours in a row) no matter if conquering forts or levelling alone - and of course he has a monster PC too
I've never heard from him about regnum being unplayable...(only from myself when enabled particle effects)
The thing is that the FPS slow down happens only if you have a lot of encounters with players drown and visual effects, a good example is hours of warring at Herbred.

I play with a AM2 6000+ X2, 2GB of gamer (low-latency) ram, GeForce 8600 GT with 256 MB of Ram, SATA harddrive. When I think of my old PC, it was very slow to play Regnum, felt like a movie from the 20's. With this new PC in comparison it's very fast -- but it goes slower as I play.

Ask him to use Alt-I to get the FPS value when he starts the game, then at Herb, and if the value goes down.

NGD has acknowledged the game to the point that the next version (already there on Amun) has (with Alt-P) a "gameplay ping" value which measures a factor of server lag+FPS. With that we will be able to compare the actual performance of everyone.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:05 PM   #10
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I voted because I only got huge lag from time to time in huge fort wars with 50+ ignis.

My config is a Debian Linux (Lenny) with Geforce 8500 GT, I therefore voted European/Other Linux/Gefore 6xxx or faster.

And I have to add that During the last month I add to downgrade the window resolution for playing regnum from 1440x900 to 1280x960 to keep good fps.
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