Current state of the International Proletarian Revolution

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by DkySven

Every single revolution which is 'for the people' we see again and again that there are a few leading figures who want the power or attention and despite the good intentions of the uprising in most cases it ends in a dictatorship. Examples are the English civil war, the Russian revolution, the revolution at Cuba and so on.

Does it mean that people should give up? Does it mean we should live a spineless existence under the yoke of capitalist oppression? Aren't we obligated to our future generations to make the world a better place? Man wouldn't have been in the internet age had he given up his quest to control fire. He failed a lot but he kept trying till he succeeded. This quality called perseverance has defined mankind through out our evolution.

Let me tell a story. As a calf, a young bull is restrained by a very thin rope. It tries to break free but fails. But when it grows up it has the power to uproot the pole to which it is tied. But it doesn't try and thats how man domesticated the powerful bull. He fed it from his hands, it lost the confidence it could get food for itself. People are just domesticated now. Americans have grown mellow, insecure, hand-fed domesticated animals of the corporations. Thats why you dont see an american revolution nor will you in some time to come.

As long as the corporations can maintain their charade, this will continue. But when external debt gets out of control and inflation shoots sky high and the people are out on the streets hungry the revolution will begin. Blood will be shed. Remember french revolution? Hunger is what drives revolutions. Man, alas, is just an animal. Unless his wherewithals dry up and he is pushed to the corner he wont rise up. But that time will definitely come for America. So comrades out there, just hold on till then. We shall prevail !

[Henri_Freundlich]

Originally Posted by veluchami

Blood will be shed. Remember french revolution? Hunger is what drives revolutions. Man, alas, is just an animal.

Oh, yes. Exploiting other people's weaknesses to amplify your so-called "Revolution". You're no better than "Do No Evil" Google and their discrete policy flip-flop on China, telemarketers, scammers and nonreligious modern Cult gatherings.

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Edit: The aim of the French Revolution was to get rid of the single monarchy, who controlled everything.

Nowadays, corporations actively *compete* for our attention.

Making corporations and governments responsible for their dodgy activities is the key, in these modern times.
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Quoting Registeted Democrat Prokofy Neva again:

the proponents of these ideas basically have a temporary expediency agenda, and then a more radical agenda hidden underneath that, and at times, it isn't even so hidden.

Communism [...]often resort to murder to get their way

Radical "optimism" (formally prayer) is akin to the 10th-13th century Crusades.

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by Henri_Freundlich

Edit: The aim of the French Revolution was to get rid of the single monarchy, who controlled everything.

No. It was about changing a system. A system of monarchy. We need to change the system now, a system of corrupt corporations doing business in the most unsustainable way possible.

Why are you so hung up on words? The words communism, revolution, single class sytem doesnt mean anything. It is the notion that is more important.

[Henri_Freundlich]

Originally Posted by veluchami

Why are you so hung up on words? The words communism, revolution, single class sytem doesnt mean anything. It is the notion that is more important.

Communism has absolutely nothing to do with human rights issues. Rather, such issues occur because of the largely ignorant population - people who let dodgy proceedings like ACTA (with their 'Guilt Upon Accusation' laws) go ahead.

Why are countries like China turning slowly towards Capitalism, if Communism solves every little problem out there?

One of the reasons that totalitarian ideologies run so rampant and so viral on the Internet is that people attempting to make a moral judgement on them are instantly accused of bias or an attempt to suppress free speech, essentially accused of the same thing they've identified.

... and says "I'll find likeminded comrades and together we will perfect ourselves and become a superior race" are *already* problems, and *already* proto-fascists because they have already discarded common sense, field data, and criticism, in favour of what some say is an eschatological technology -- a technology that is really more like a religion. Who would be able to talk sense to them once they are ecstatic? It really is rather like the Rapture, in which they imagine that some will be swept up because they are righteous

-- Prokofy Neva: Why Singularity is Fascism

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by Henri_Freundlich

Why are countries like China turning slowly towards Capitalism, if Communism solves every little problem out there?

Because they have corrupt communists?