A little about archers - Page 3

Signatus · 07-05-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Warriors
I can say that warriors have always been getting the short end of many updates, I spoke up for them each time. This new update will help you reach targets with new accuracy and speed. + 1 for you....

Hardly. Back-pedalling and direction change is too high for that to happen, moreover our immobilize skills allow our enemy to change direction (now at an increased speed).

Will be more of the same with one difference, the degrees of freedom of our targets has increased movement wise, we'll no longer be able to predict accurately other's direction of movement.

NGD forgot one basic thing, this movement works well on games where enemies are solid, the action is centred on PvE, skills have cones of influence, auras have 360º radius and bigger area of influence, etc., etc., etc....

DemonMonger · 07-05-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfesteinX

dual shot was the only choice for the hunters to have a decen attack and now could change... i think that will be a mistake

It is a mistake... The pet hunters that are using confuse and killing people in the warzone with dualshot 3/4 + pet + basic shot + ensnare 4/5 are the problems.... The problem is confuse + pet that keeps bashing someones head.
If the person was not confused 99% of the time even if a hunter ambushed them they could defend themselves.

Ornu · 07-05-2009, 06:54 AM

Hi,

dual shoot to belong to the short arm deserves even more speed in his attack, thus can not compare with that of its recharge "penetrate shields," since there is a difference in the features.

The problem here is confusing, one hunter who can not use this skill Is doomed to little damage that a hunter can inflict? remember that the hunter only has 3 skills short of damage to recharge (which are the most effective).

Greetings. : hat:

P.S.:

Sorry, but I voted wrong: read error, I meant dual shot is not-overpowered and i've a hunter.

_dracus_ · 07-05-2009, 07:45 AM

Did I miss something: Is hunter supposed to deal hight dps alone ?

I would suggest that hunters ensaring arrow get a reduced dmg (just 100% bow dmg) but a better speed reduction since now it doesn't really stop a running ennemy (-20% speed at lvl 5 instead of -15%).

fluffy_muffin · 07-05-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

It is a mistake... The pet hunters that are using confuse and killing people in the warzone with dualshot 3/4 + pet + basic shot + ensnare 4/5 are the problems.... The problem is confuse + pet that keeps bashing someones head.
If the person was not confused 99% of the time even if a hunter ambushed them they could defend themselves.

^^ i see that Frenchies killed you a lot. What's up? You can't play without high evasion and make ppl fools by hiding under stalker or without using sotw? Best is that you were first hunter who confused me :> So it is good to see that you suffer from it. Change setup and take a pet. Even with confuse there is a way to win. Find it :P

fluffy_muffin · 07-05-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

Did I miss something: Is hunter supposed to deal hight dps alone ?

No. But they like to deal 500 dual+245 normal and 500 ensnaring and think it is ok ^^
For me 7 sec is not a problem. I have pet and Sudden strike ^^

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

I would suggest that hunters ensaring arrow get a reduced dmg (just 100% bow dmg) but a better speed reduction since now it doesn't really stop a running ennemy (-20% speed at lvl 5 instead of -15%).

Yup. It should be penalty spell not dmg one just like grounding arrow. Or hinder could be lower in spell tree and not be and area spell. Who knows.
I like your suggestion.

makarios68 · 07-05-2009, 10:01 AM

Dual shot should remain as it is - it fits nicely with the hunter's 'fast and light style'.

Nerfing it would unneccessarily affect hunter dmg, and will also have a bad impact hunters' ability to grind mobs, which is already a torrid affair.

Also, too many nerfs have already occurred IMO - people are getting fed up with it.

NERF THE NERF!!

Seher · 07-05-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

It is a mistake... The pet hunters that are using confuse and killing people in the warzone with dualshot 3/4 + pet + basic shot + ensnare 4/5 are the problems.... The problem is confuse + pet that keeps bashing someones head.
If the person was not confused 99% of the time even if a hunter ambushed them they could defend themselves.

No, that's not the problem. (Not the problem NGD's "aware" of) They simply don't want us to deal damage.

Marksmen shall deal damage using their full range, so they don't need a defence. So why not make hunters short range archers actually being able to deal damage? We could fight. We could fight together with our pets. We could fight. We could make rp. Did I mention we could fight?

DkySven · 07-05-2009, 11:09 AM

In my opinion the poll is a bit too much black and white, so I didn't vote. I don't think the 2 seconds extra cooldown to dual shot will change my gameplay very much for my hunter, because I lacked mana to cast it every 5 seconds anyway.

chassor · 07-05-2009, 11:42 AM

confuse overpowered ?!? bullshit !!!

you just want to be invincible , as a ninja when i got confused i know i'm dead , this is the game and i accept it.

i agree that dual shot nerf will be harsh for us , but i did a suggestion that the first spell of scouting can allow us a bonus dmg while the second spell of pets will negate this bonus if NGD plan to stick on dual shot nerf , but please please don't make suggestion that fit only your gameplay !

CONFUSE SHOULD NOT BE NERFED (even if it kills me )

View Poll Results: Do you feel dual shot should be 7 seconds due to its so called power?
Yes dual shot is overpowered (I have a hunter)	16	27.59%
Yes dual shot is overpowered (I am not a hunter)	4	6.90%
No dual shot is fine as it is (I have a hunter)	32	55.17%
No dual shot is fine as it is (I don't have a hunter)	6	10.34%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

07-05-2009, 06:54 AM	#23
Ornu Count Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Merlo, Buenos aires. Posts: 1,374	Hi, dual shoot to belong to the short arm deserves even more speed in his attack, thus can not compare with that of its recharge "penetrate shields," since there is a difference in the features. The problem here is confusing, one hunter who can not use this skill Is doomed to little damage that a hunter can inflict? remember that the hunter only has 3 skills short of damage to recharge (which are the most effective). Greetings. : hat: P.S.: Sorry, but I voted wrong: read error, I meant dual shot is not-overpowered and i've a hunter. __________________ « "Î" Ornu !¡ \|\|

07-05-2009, 07:45 AM	#24
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	Did I miss something: Is hunter supposed to deal hight dps alone ? I would suggest that hunters ensaring arrow get a reduced dmg (just 100% bow dmg) but a better speed reduction since now it doesn't really stop a running ennemy (-20% speed at lvl 5 instead of -15%). __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

07-05-2009, 11:09 AM	#29
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	In my opinion the poll is a bit too much black and white, so I didn't vote. I don't think the 2 seconds extra cooldown to dual shot will change my gameplay very much for my hunter, because I lacked mana to cast it every 5 seconds anyway. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

07-05-2009, 10:01 AM	#27
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	Dual shot should remain as it is - it fits nicely with the hunter's 'fast and light style'. Nerfing it would unneccessarily affect hunter dmg, and will also have a bad impact hunters' ability to grind mobs, which is already a torrid affair. Also, too many nerfs have already occurred IMO - people are getting fed up with it. NERF THE NERF!!

07-05-2009, 11:42 AM	#30
chassor Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: pb2 Posts: 66	confuse overpowered ?!? bullshit !!! you just want to be invincible , as a ninja when i got confused i know i'm dead , this is the game and i accept it. i agree that dual shot nerf will be harsh for us , but i did a suggestion that the first spell of scouting can allow us a bonus dmg while the second spell of pets will negate this bonus if NGD plan to stick on dual shot nerf , but please please don't make suggestion that fit only your gameplay ! CONFUSE SHOULD NOT BE NERFED (even if it kills me )