A little about archers - Page 5

_dracus_ · 07-07-2009, 02:46 PM

I really don't feel hunters are gonna be ruined in this update.

PS: Tested it on Amun, and it was ok, just need to get used to the new moves.

Mellion · 07-07-2009, 03:18 PM

I don't say that the class is ruined by spell "changes"

It is ruined by general game design errors. What shall a hunter hunt now or do in war? If I see, that there are 2 or more GG's online, I don't stick to my Hunter. All other Classes are much better in groups 2+.

Comp · 07-07-2009, 03:47 PM

It would be nice if we had some usable group based skills. Stalker just doesn't cut it for a group use skill. We need some sort of aura we can use that benefits the group - and gives hunters a reason to use it. (Unlike the horrible camo dead body).

DemonMonger · 07-07-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

I really don't feel hunters are gonna be ruined in this update.

PS: Tested it on Amun, and it was ok, just need to get used to the new moves.

I agree... hunter will not be ruined by this update

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PVP (assassinations)
We will have many more advantages to use while assassinating people....
It is almost an even exchange.

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FORT WAR
We will suffer from the change to dual shot....
Then again we can use strafe + basic shot attacking while moving.
Then again we can turn while shooting (as long as we do not move forward or backward) We are more like turrets now...
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PVP 1v1
Hunter will have to use pets to win most 1vs1 duels
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_dracus_ · 07-08-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonMonger

FORT WAR
We will suffer from the change to dual shot....
Then again we can use strafe + basic shot attacking while moving.
Then again we can turn while shooting (as long as we do not move forward or backward) We are more like turrets now...
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I'd say for me it changes nothing in fort wars. Short bows is made for assasination, it has neither dmg or range needed for fort war.

DemonMonger · 07-08-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

I'd say for me it changes nothing in fort wars. Short bows is made for assasination, it has neither dmg or range needed for fort war.

I carry 3 types of long bows and 2 types of short bows...
1) fast short bow = buffing bow
2) medium short bow = dual shot / repetition
3) medium long bow range 30 = for plinking
4) slow long bow range 30 = long range ensnare / fort war plinking
5) slow long bow range 25 = fort doors / power ensnare

I carry long bows but do not use any long bow attack skills because they are very weak and pointless.
1. Shield peirce = crap damage
2. Break apart = bad, when skill ends the enemy gains 400 hp or more.
also the - constitution does not drain life off someone who already has more than 400 damage done to them.

How can you say short bow does not have the damage needed for fort wars?
3 shortbow hunters are more valuable than 3 long bow hunter in fort war....

Any bow can be used for assassination.....
It is an art, with many tools...

The update will change war for you... wait and see..
I think you will enjoy it

_dracus_ · 07-08-2009, 04:09 PM

Well a slow long bow with maneuver is way better than any short bows in war (especially since you will not hit for a long while with range 25).

Comp · 07-08-2009, 04:31 PM

In a fort fight....If I'm not camo'd with pet on wrath...waiting for someone to try and terror so I can cancel it...I'm not doing something right.

Dual shot at 7s sucks...but I'll get over it.

DemonMonger · 07-08-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dracus_

Well a slow long bow with maneuver is way better than any short bows in war (especially since you will not hit for a long while with range 25).

I disagree...
One conjurer with area heal will or a heal over-time skill cast can defend against any hunters long bow attacks.

It is better to sit back and do basic shots with long bows to herd the enemy into a cluster. Then change to short bow (use camouflage and run into the enemy group). Wait for terror and cast repetition shot.

Yet another reason short bow is better for wars...

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Originally Posted by Solarus

In a fort fight....If I'm not camo'd with pet on wrath...waiting for someone to try and terror so I can cancel it...I'm not doing something right.

Dual shot at 7s sucks...but I'll get over it.

Yes dual shot with seven seconds cooldown is not cool to me, but at least we can still shoot our basic arrows. I would however, be happy with a knife (changes name to Riddick)

Angelwinged_Devil · 07-09-2009, 12:38 AM

using short bows in a rush is a fine choise to make

View Poll Results: Do you feel dual shot should be 7 seconds due to its so called power?
Yes dual shot is overpowered (I have a hunter)	16	27.59%
Yes dual shot is overpowered (I am not a hunter)	4	6.90%
No dual shot is fine as it is (I have a hunter)	32	55.17%
No dual shot is fine as it is (I don't have a hunter)	6	10.34%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

07-07-2009, 02:46 PM	#41
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	I really don't feel hunters are gonna be ruined in this update. PS: Tested it on Amun, and it was ok, just need to get used to the new moves. __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

07-07-2009, 03:47 PM	#43
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	It would be nice if we had some usable group based skills. Stalker just doesn't cut it for a group use skill. We need some sort of aura we can use that benefits the group - and gives hunters a reason to use it. (Unlike the horrible camo dead body). __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...) Last edited by Solarus; 07-07-2009 at 11:16 PM.

07-08-2009, 04:09 PM	#47
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	Well a slow long bow with maneuver is way better than any short bows in war (especially since you will not hit for a long while with range 25). __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

07-08-2009, 04:31 PM	#48
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	In a fort fight....If I'm not camo'd with pet on wrath...waiting for someone to try and terror so I can cancel it...I'm not doing something right. Dual shot at 7s sucks...but I'll get over it. __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

07-07-2009, 03:18 PM	#42
Mellion Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 288	I don't say that the class is ruined by spell "changes" It is ruined by general game design errors. What shall a hunter hunt now or do in war? If I see, that there are 2 or more GG's online, I don't stick to my Hunter. All other Classes are much better in groups 2+.

07-09-2009, 12:38 AM	#50
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	using short bows in a rush is a fine choise to make