Spell Elude: Still Useful?

Gideon_Slack · 02-12-2010, 04:24 AM

I just came back from some time off from the game, and it looks like the Archer evasion skill Spell Elude has been changed. Before I recall it was a percentage chance to elude. Now it seems to be a bonus to the basic spell resistance.

Is this skill still worth putting points into?

_dracus_ · 02-12-2010, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

I just came back from some time off from the game, and it looks like the Archer evasion skill Spell Elude has been changed. Before I recall it was a percentage chance to elude. Now it seems to be a bonus to the basic spell resistance.

Is this skill still worth putting points into?

It never ever was, really put your points somewhere else, but 4 power points and 200 mana isn't worth the small effect it has.

Kittypretty · 02-12-2010, 06:36 AM

it was worth it to me

but yeah not now..i wouldnt bother for the high cost and limited boost (do we even KNOW our spell resistance layer base? why not say it gives us a better % at getting laid..that stat doesnt show either..so for all we know its fluff now)

Myxir · 02-12-2010, 10:09 AM

Compare the bonus with the one from Son of the wind which is/was almost 99% of the spells.
Then you'll see... broken by design

-Drv- · 02-12-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

It never ever was, really put your points somewhere else, but 4 power points and 200 mana isn't worth the small effect it has.

200 mana is at level 1, if i remember well.
at level 5 it costs 300 mana.

makarios68 · 02-12-2010, 01:11 PM

Before the big nerf the skill was very effective - too effective really, as IMO it made archers overpowered.

Then came the BIG nerf and now this skill is pretty much useless.

What i want to know is why a 'middle way' approach wasn't attempted? The skill went from overpowered to useless in one swing of the nerf-axe.

The same is true of onslaught and a few other skills.

Instead of toning such skills down gradually until balance is reached, they were snipped at the root and killed.

Zas_ · 02-12-2010, 07:18 PM

Useless, as too many other spells.

Nerfing for balance is nice, but making spells useless is not the way, it reduces variety of setups and make class uninteresting to play.

I would like NGD to work a bit on all those broken spells nobody use.

Comp · 02-13-2010, 12:30 AM

Spell Elude, dodge....useless.

There are many things that don't actually work - I'm sure (or hope) NGD knows this....

Gideon_Slack · 02-13-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Solarus

Spell Elude, dodge....useless.

There are many things that don't actually work - I'm sure (or hope) NGD knows this....

Yes, it would be interesting to know just what logging/analysis tools NGD does have. Can they run a report that shows all the points people put into their skills by spell and category? That would be fascinating to see.

Gawyn_Trakkand · 02-14-2010, 08:45 PM

From what I have heard this skill used to be somewhat useful, now I cant see why i would sacrifice more important skills for something this useless, anything that involves evade or HC is broken go for lvl 5 evasive instead it reduces dmg and has no affect what-so-ever on HC.

02-12-2010, 04:24 AM	#1
Gideon_Slack Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 264	Spell Elude: Still Useful? I just came back from some time off from the game, and it looks like the Archer evasion skill Spell Elude has been changed. Before I recall it was a percentage chance to elude. Now it seems to be a bonus to the basic spell resistance. Is this skill still worth putting points into? __________________ Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology

02-12-2010, 06:36 AM	#3
Kittypretty Baron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 697	it was worth it to me but yeah not now..i wouldnt bother for the high cost and limited boost (do we even KNOW our spell resistance layer base? why not say it gives us a better % at getting laid..that stat doesnt show either..so for all we know its fluff now) __________________ Taking a break from Regnum due to work leaving me little free time! So my laptop must go for now! (ask me for full details, it is an Alienware Mx18 3rd gen Ivy bridge i73920xm & configured with SLI twin Nvidia 675m, paid 3,330$ asking 2,800$ or 2,400$ + netbook.

02-12-2010, 10:09 AM	#4
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	Compare the bonus with the one from Son of the wind which is/was almost 99% of the spells. Then you'll see... broken by design __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.

02-12-2010, 07:18 PM	#7
Zas_ Count Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 1,024	Useless, as too many other spells. Nerfing for balance is nice, but making spells useless is not the way, it reduces variety of setups and make class uninteresting to play. I would like NGD to work a bit on all those broken spells nobody use. __________________ Annavilya / War-Luck (Haven)

02-13-2010, 12:30 AM	#8
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	Spell Elude, dodge....useless. There are many things that don't actually work - I'm sure (or hope) NGD knows this.... __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

02-12-2010, 01:11 PM	#6
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	Before the big nerf the skill was very effective - too effective really, as IMO it made archers overpowered. Then came the BIG nerf and now this skill is pretty much useless. What i want to know is why a 'middle way' approach wasn't attempted? The skill went from overpowered to useless in one swing of the nerf-axe. The same is true of onslaught and a few other skills. Instead of toning such skills down gradually until balance is reached, they were snipped at the root and killed.

02-14-2010, 08:45 PM	#10
Gawyn_Trakkand Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 219	From what I have heard this skill used to be somewhat useful, now I cant see why i would sacrifice more important skills for something this useless, anything that involves evade or HC is broken go for lvl 5 evasive instead it reduces dmg and has no affect what-so-ever on HC.