New Balance Update: Hits/Criticals/Evasion (Stage 6)

[chilko]

Hello guys,

We are finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel
Very exciting changes for this Stage. Please help us test!

General Modifications to the combat system

• New Critical calculation: We have implemented a more elegant system for calculating chances of critical hits. Critical related spells numbers have been changed for the new system. The new values have been designed to have a BIGGER impact on your chances of critical hits. Critical hit chance is now represented as a % of hits.
• New Hit chance/Evasion calculation: We have adjusted some values and given more weight to character stats and weapons stats than character level. This means that some spells related to evasion and hit chance will have a stronger effect. Balance to these spells (mostly buffs) will be done at a future stage.
  
• Base Evasion chances have been reduced for all classes.
• Evasion, damage resists and spell resists for normal looking mobs have been decreased

Spells:

• New Marksmen spell instead of Dead Sentence called Dead Eye: Damage Bonus 10%-30% with a reduction of Attack speed of 20% in every level. Duration: 20 seconds.
• New Spell for Hunters: Death sentence. Changed for an assist spell for RVR battles. This spell is designed to assist warriors. Increase of melee damage 5% 20%, Cooldown: 30 Seconds
• Various re-arrangements to the scouting discipline: We removed Track Ally and Track Monster because of the addition of Death Sentence and a new spell.

Map Changes

• A group of Dwarf engineers have been working on Trelleborg Save. Let’s see if they found a way to stop the camping.
• More underground activity of unknown origin around Thorkul’s Rage has been dramatically changing the surrounding landscape.

[theotherhiveking]

Im worried about death sentence, mostly its the cooldown, i think it should be 15 or something.

You see, death sentence wasnt really that common even when it buffed 90% of your our army agaisnt and single enemy and the damages where A LOT bigger.

So, now the caster doesnt enjoy it either, and warriors still have to charge and stuff.

So, i think for people to use it, it should be cheap and have a low cooldown so it can be spammed.

New Critical calculation: We have implemented a more elegant system for calculating chances of critical hits. Critical related spells numbers have been changed for the new system. The new values have been designed to have a BIGGER impact on your chances of critical hits. Critical hit chance is now represented as a % of hits.
New Hit chance/Evasion calculation: We have adjusted some values and given more weight to character stats and weapons stats than character level. This means that some spells related to evasion and hit chance will have a stronger effect. Balance to these spells (mostly buffs) will be done at a future stage.


Base Evasion chances have been reduced for all classes.
Evasion, damage resists and spell resists for normal looking mobs have been decreased

Bwavo!! Clappy!

A bug:
Death sentece says that any attack performed from a distante above 3 meters will be enhanced. If it assists warriors then you want to say UNDER 3 meters.

[Mattdoesrock]

All the resists etc stuff sounds great, I'll have to test it.

However, can you explain how Critical hits are calculated? What effect Concentration has on them? etc. That would be great.

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Originally Posted by chilko

New Marksmen spell instead of Dead Sentence called Dead Eye: Damage Bonus 10%-30% with a reduction of Attack speed of 20% in every level. Duration: 20 seconds.

Well that's 5 extra points for my Marks then.

Originally Posted by chilko

New Spell for Hunters: Death sentence. Changed for an assist spell for RVR battles. This spell is designed to assist warriors. Increase of melee damage 5% 20%, Cooldown: 30 Seconds

I wish my Marks had something like this.

[chilko]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

All the resists etc stuff sounds great, I'll have to test it.

However, can you explain how Critical hits are calculated? What effect Concentration has on them? etc. That would be great.

I can say that it's based on concentration, your level and your weapon's quality.

previous formula had too much to do with level... now it has more to do with attributes and your weapon.

also, this is a real % of chance of your hits... this desnt mean that if you had 50% of critical chance you will have 1 critical every one round.
Random is random... a coin toss can be heads thousands of times in a row.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

most of the changes in this stage arent actually half bad. that said, im still disappointed in the way that onslaught was changed.

ill chuck my idea out there again:

a compromise between the current onslaught and the new one:

onslaught ONLY affects the caster IF it also affects someone else.

FOR INSTANCE:

a barbarian casts onslaught with no one around, there is no effect.


a barbarian casts onslaught with 1 or more people in the area of effect, the barbarian receives the full benefits from the onslaught.

also WOW, u killed the SHIT out of mobility

[chilko]

Originally Posted by Hamster_of_sorrow

most of the changes in this stage arent actually half bad. that said, im still disappointed in the way that onslaught was changed.

ill chuck my idea out there again:

a compromise between the current onslaught and the new one:

onslaught ONLY affects the caster IF it also affects someone else.

FOR INSTANCE:

a barbarian casts onslaught with no one around, there is no effect.

a barbarian casts onslaught with 1 or more people in the area of effect, the barbarian receives the full benefits from the onslaught.

Objection overruled. you would still get the effect of both spring and onslaught by yourself.

[TheMessenger]

Originally Posted by chilko

Objection overruled. you would still get the effect of both spring and onslaught by yourself.

Like the updates, so nice job

But could you at least make onsl dmg bonus still apply to caster? :/

also the new DS for marks is it -20% AS each lvl or at lvl 5 is it -20% AS?

[Gideon_Slack]

Thoughts on Death Sentence:

Could someone with a better grip of the math compare Death Sentence to Sudden Strike?

Sudden Strike at level 5 gives 40 seconds of -50% protection.

Death Sentence at Level 5 gives 30 seconds of +20% melee damage.

Will using Death Sentence allow allies to inflict more damage on a target than Sudden Strike? (Sudden Strike is also a more versatile spell, and applies to all forms of damage).

Also, I'm not sure a spell called "Death Sentence" fits in the Scouting tree. A new name that is Head of the Pack-ish would be nice.

Note: The last Spell in the Scouting tree is a mystery right now, it only says "Label"

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by chilko

Objection overruled. you would still get the effect of both spring and onslaught by yourself.

not really, if you are alone, chasing or running, onslaught would not affect you.

my idea would ONLY affect the caster if it affects another ally, so if you are alone, its useless.

[New_barb]

ok new compromise?

IF you have any other speed buff activated you can't cast onslaught. after 10 seconds that the speed buff ended you will be able to cast onslaught and you can't cast another speed buff spell withing 10 seconds after onslaught ended? BUT it will effects the caster? like getting a global cooldown on your speed buffs after archieved another speed buff,

and of course there has to be a ally next to you or it won't effect you