Balance Update, First real iteration on AMUN!

[BigManOnCampus]

Originally Posted by Umaril

Go look it up, its supposed to be 50%

It is 50% after:
1) resistance check
2) evade check
3) block check

In reality, the chance you'll actually fully debuff someone with MS is probably closer to 30-35%

[Shwish]

the changes all sound good to me. knights are finally getting their rightfully deserved due, but I'm a bit concerned about what this would mean for the marksman class seeing that there's gona be no improvement to them



EDIT: why did someone *cough Lumi* give me negative karma for this post with this tagged onto it:

Skills don't get evaded, only resisted or blocked.

im aware of this and it has nothing to do with my post

[UmarilsStillHere]

With improvements to armour all around I will be interested to see how med/fast marks/hunter/knight weapons manage, most were already borderline ineffective vs buffed targets.

In regards to MS I was talking about just the spells function of debuffing being 50% assuming the spell had already landed, as the point was to show people still use % chance spells far lower than the 90% of Sultar. Though yes in acctual combat all spells are subject to blocking and resistance, which reduces the chance of them landing in the first place, obviously.

[Recoil]

Skills don't get evaded, only resisted or blocked.

[Anyriand]

I can't say I don't like GH until I've actually tried it...but doesn't it seem like a huge nerf??

Reducing duration to half, not afecting the caster, +30hp on lvl 5? I'm sorry I don't like it at all. It being an area instead of an aura I can deal with, as it's gonna avoid it being spammed in all the wrong occasions, but why the nerf?

Conjurers don't need any more of those, and RO doesn't need any more warjurers...I'm afraid this will just ruin the only decent support spell conjurers still had.

I was looking forward to this update, I thought NGD's priorities were to improve warriors gameplay and deal with OP classes such as locks and hunters...Conjurers are not OP and don't need nerfing!

[Isemon]

Ofc, probably after this update conjurers will be less and less again if NGD will put such big nerf, NGD you want more warriors? there are a lot of spells to improve/fix in warriors discipline, you should focus on those.

Also nerf after nerf on the class that help the others to stay alive won't help warriors at all, since they get support from conjurers.

And NGD said that want longer battles, more conjurers provide longer battles, and you make the conjurer life even harder, what's the point? it seems contraddiction to me.

[Syrtisa]

there r so few support conjus left (ative) and after nefring nefring and nefring we suppose to expect another nefr.... hyyyyymmmm

lets assume that i am worng about that...
rp's means nothing, but since we got many ppl active we can try to do some statistic how many support conjus are at top payers list ... 2 ?

it could manes:
- ppl plays bad - unlikely since we got many players
- playing conju is unattractive - quite likely imho

so what to do with unattractive class .... NEFR IT ???? am I insane or sth is wrong with general approach ?

another question plz show me SENIOR support cojnu happy of incoming changes (can u name 5 for whole RO, cos i can't)

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by Umaril

With improvements to armour all around I will be interested to see how med/fast marks/hunter/knight weapons manage, most were already borderline ineffective vs buffed targets.

Exactly what i was wondering. Fixed armours could mean that we finally get the formula to calculate the mitigation per ap for different damage type resistances?

I want to add that buffed damage reduction of armor (non-scaling) greatly reduces the smaller hits (archers &knights, dots) and should be checked upon balancing.

[KryHavoK]

Originally Posted by Shwish

the changes all sound good to me. knights are finally getting their rightfully deserved due, but I'm a bit concerned about what this would mean for the marksman class seeing that there's gona be no improvement to them

From reading Chilko's opening post, I'm thinking/hoping that the Archer class is still on their to-do list and will be addressed before releasing the balance update.

Originally Posted by chilko

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AND THERE IS MORE WORK TO BE DONE (LIKE WITH ARCHERS)

[doppelapfel]

Originally Posted by BigManOnCampus

It is 50% after:
1) resistance check
2) evade check
3) block check

In reality, the chance you'll actually fully debuff someone with MS is probably closer to 30-35%

You can call every offensive spell chance based if you want to, no need to tell us that.

I will continue using st, less in 1v1 but as often as now in big fights. But ill drop TM i think :/. Maybe frozen storm will do the same.

Id like to see heal ally healing a percentage of the full health, maybe 30%, this would be fairer to warriors who have more health than mages and archers and need more heals.