Solution to Confuse without Nerfs (everyones happy!)

[DemonMonger]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

No deal.

Give it Knights instead (god knows they need at least one decent spell) . A spell like this is just too deadly at range.

This is not about knights... I know that the skill would benefit them as well...
Shield bash kick backbreaker combo is deadly as is...

[Kasp1]

Actually it's only 25 range. No conjurer would hide if I could confuse in my full range, that would be funny.

Edit: deal! hunters would get a real dizzy for warlocks

[Mattdoesrock]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

This is not about knights... I know that the skill would benefit them as well...

Then... Give it to them? Hunters are uber enough, and Marks aren't so bad. Unlike Knights.

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Shield bash

Spoken truely like someone who does not play a Knight.

Shield bash is extremely hard to use (bugged?) as it takes forever to start casting - far longer than any other; not including its cast time.

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

backbreaker

Just making spells up now are we?


And no, that "combo" it not deadly. This is a knight we're talking about.

[VandaMan]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

Shield bash is extremely hard to use (bugged?) as it takes forever to start casting - far longer than any other; not including its cast time.

The only ways I've ever seen a knight land shield bash on me was with an immobilize, or an extremely well timed (lucky?) cast following a knock.

[DemonMonger]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

Then... Give it to them? Hunters are uber enough, and Marks aren't so bad. Unlike Knights.



Spoken truely like someone who does not play a Knight.

Shield bash is extremely hard to use (bugged?) as it takes forever to start casting - far longer than any other; not including its cast time.



Just making spells up now are we?


And no, that "combo" it not deadly. This is a knight we're talking about.

You have successfully derailed my topic by adding knight factor that did not exist.. This poll was not intended for knights so your points are not valid here. I have always advocated to improve knights since the dawn of Night Twix, and will continue to hope that knights are improved in the future. But please, consider the question at hand and not a thought that cannot be answered by this poll.

All the knight skills should be instant cast that are within weapon range. Backslam = backbreaker to me its all the same...



I had a change of heart... if hunters had a true dizzy skill they would be unstoppable.... no attack skills or run away skills....

<delete poll>

[Dupa_z_Zasady]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

I had a change of heart...

I kindly ask you to use brain not heart before posting.

[Zixmund]

Errr what is the problem with confuse ? It maybe pwns in some way on 1vs1, but this is a RvR game isn it ?

[Vroek]

Originally Posted by Zixmund

Errr what is the problem with confuse ? It maybe pwns in some way on 1vs1, but this is a RvR game isn it ?

RvR balance would be that,
Six hunters wouldnt have much of a chance against six opponents (one of each class).
I can almost guarantee that 6 hunters will beat the 'balanced' group 9 times out of 10.

It may be that six warjurers or warlocks also would beat six opponents (one of each class).
But six warjurers, can not force a confrontation due to other limitations.

[Kratos_Aurion]

6 hunters should be able to beat 6 opponents b/c that is 1 vs 1 pvp, what hunters were born for. and wth would u make it marks only, that doesnt make everyone happy, but you would have to read all of these posts to know that...
i mainly do 1 vs 1 pvp in wz on my 50 hunter, and when i go against a 50 marks, whether i have confuse or not (they usually already have some buffs up), the majority of the time, i'll die, from a fast short bow that hits abnormally hard

having confuse, in a tree, that most marks have leveled up anyway, would make it an even more spammed spell, all marks would have it

though for hunters, we have to get rid of some in pets, evasion, or tracking to make room for confuse; which is done often, but not by all

new title: Solution to confuse without nerfs: spamming

[Anpu]

What is actually improvement there?
Giving to all archers power to dizzy conjurer so he cannot cast anything, instead not just being able to heal? Spell that passes their only defense, DI?

I m strongly against this.