Solution to Confuse without Nerfs (everyones happy!)

VandaMan · 01-28-2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeposnl

I think that confuse is more a defence spell against conjurers than a attack spell. Conjurers have so much knock downs that I simply can't even destroy their barrier when getting all those stuns one after another.

The only knock down that conjurers have is will domain.

Gabburtjuh · 01-28-2010, 03:21 PM

yes, but he means knock down in the way of immo/knock/cannot attack, so conjs have 3, beetles, will domain and ivy, u can say hunter still attacks when u use ivy, but when u use will domain and beetles first, and then ivy u can't run away by the time u have low hp left.

DemonMonger · 01-28-2010, 03:35 PM

The only reason I changed my mind about this is because with burst of wind you cant cast any skills attack or defensive. Confuse is fine rvr 100%

Some have suggested confuse works like head of the pack longer duration with more people around you.

I will add this... let confuse last longer on the enemy depending on how many enemies are near him!

Vroek · 01-28-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

let confuse last longer on the enemy depending on how many enemies are near him!

enemies?
shouldnt it be allies?

monktbd · 01-28-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroek

enemies?
shouldnt it be allies?

Well he still wants to win 1 vs 3 scenarios

DemonMonger · 01-28-2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monktbd

Well he still wants to win 1 vs 3 scenarios

I still win 1vs3 scenarios man.. without confuse or pet.... and with gcd...

nothing will change for me .... since im pure attack...

monktbd · 01-28-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

I still win 1vs3 scenarios man.. without confuse or pet.... and with gcd...
.

I know that you dont use confuse and pets dmc

I was just kidding.
Well a true RvR situation involves both allies and enemies so I would assume that working only with the number of enemies would make 1 vs 3 easier (unless the duration will not be longer than it is currently ofc).

Generally I think the idea of having duration dependent on ppl around is a good one.

DemonMonger · 01-28-2010, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroek

enemies?
shouldnt it be allies?

no it should last longer when you cast it in a group of enemies... like a reverse head of the pack...

head of pack = bonus for your own realm allies near u
confusion = bonus duration on target (more duration with more of targets realm near)

This will force it to be a war skill...

Vroek · 01-28-2010, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

no it should last longer when you cast it in a group of enemies... like a reverse head of the pack...

head of pack = bonus for your own realm allies near u
confusion = bonus duration on target (more duration with more of targets realm near)

This will force it to be a war skill...

Ok i misunderstood you. I meant the same thing but reversed, as it is debuff i thought it be better if its based on the one that actually is effected and not the caster of said spell.

DemonMonger · 01-29-2010, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroek

Ok i misunderstood you. I meant the same thing but reversed, as it is debuff i thought it be better if its based on the one that actually is effected and not the caster of said spell.

it's ok <3
This forum is full of misunderstood messages and twisted truths

View Poll Results: Like this idea?
YES!!! dang it's perfect marksmen won't be limited!	9	17.65%
No we need another way to solve the issue...	42	82.35%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

01-28-2010, 03:21 PM	#2
Gabburtjuh Baron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere where grinding does NOT exist Posts: 822	yes, but he means knock down in the way of immo/knock/cannot attack, so conjs have 3, beetles, will domain and ivy, u can say hunter still attacks when u use ivy, but when u use will domain and beetles first, and then ivy u can't run away by the time u have low hp left.

01-28-2010, 03:35 PM	#3
DemonMonger Marquis Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edge of the Abyss Posts: 2,066	The only reason I changed my mind about this is because with burst of wind you cant cast any skills attack or defensive. Confuse is fine rvr 100% Some have suggested confuse works like head of the pack longer duration with more people around you. I will add this... let confuse last longer on the enemy depending on how many enemies are near him!