New Balance Update: some BUG fixes and tweaks (Stage 5)

Znurre · 08-10-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gallus

Not a constant one, to tell apart when a barb is with UM and when he is not.

There is, a skull above his head, though it's hard to see especially when Thirst for blood is activated at the same time.

AntibioTsu · 08-10-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Znurre

There is, a skull above his head, though it's hard to see especially when Thirst for blood is activated at the same time.

Not to mention that no animation is seen on a character if he cast his buffs out of line of sight.

Zas_ · 08-10-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuku

Not to mention that no animation is seen on a character if he cast his buffs out of line of sight.

Yes, this is a old very boring bug, reported many times, and still not fixed.

Let's hope NGD will do something about it.

UmarilsStillHere · 08-10-2010, 02:45 PM

Dont like the new escapist, its basically a flip side of Sotw now.

It would seem if anything my marks damage went down more.

Topogigio_BR · 08-10-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

Dont like the new escapist, its basically a flip side of Sotw now.

It would seem if anything my marks damage went down more.

AS i see Sotw resist spells and escapist evades normals, it seems 2 spells for 2 different purpose.

UmarilsStillHere · 08-10-2010, 02:57 PM

Its 2 spells yes, but its basically the same old effect (god mode vs normals instead of god mode vs spells) so now archers can do to everyone else what they have been doing to mages forever.

Kyrottimus · 08-10-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

Its 2 spells yes, but its basically the same old effect (god mode vs normals instead of god mode vs spells) so now archers can do to everyone else what they have been doing to mages forever.

Not to mention hunters will be able to roam in packs, jumping anyone with all the tools needed to win 100% of the time.

Near immunity to all spells
Near immunity to all normals
Immunity to everything if losing the fight (Low Profile)

and now uber damage in those short-spurts with Cold Blood.

Methinks some little bird who happens to love playing hunter the most is poisoning the ears of the balance team.

For example, notice how Barbarians in the past few "stages" have had nothing but more and more limitations heaped upon them. Not one spell improved or changed to add more choices on how to play. Just more limitations meaning more players of that class are forced into less-inspired, cookie-cutter builds.

But hunters lost some damage (which they got a good amount of it back now) and then to counter that they get the new Escapist and Cold Blooded. Barbarians did receive a slight increase in damage in stage 5, I really must acknowledge that. But in reality, using the same build from 4 in stage 5, my base damage went up 4 points. I think NGD might have under-emphasized the slightness of the increase.

So even though things change a bit for hunters, these new abilities open the door (wide) for hunters to pretty much build for any situation. I can already think how I'd build my hunter with these. More options = more fun.

That's just not the case for barbs. It will be far easier for me to lead charges on my hunter now, than my barb.

These updates have done nothing but limit barbarians and their abilities. They've reduced their versatility and minimized the variety and diversity of barbarians as a class.

Only a fool would believe that Barbarians did not need improvement on some level. If there have been any improvements, spell-tweaks, mana reductions, or overall positive changes to Barbarians to date, I have not seen any. Not a single one. Only the opposite. Only nerfs.

Someone, please, list one positive change to barbarians in this whole series of testing stages, using the current live servers as a starting point and the Stage 5 on Amun now as the direction of NGD's intent.

Someone, please, enlighten me.

Klutu · 08-10-2010, 03:59 PM

After several pvp's with Archers

A Hunter needs escapist to be able to take a Barb on - since they don't have dominate speed anymore it's easy game for a barb to kill a hunter

Escapist doesn't work anything like Sotw in terms of success

Remember old sotw wasn't op because of the Resistance to Spells & Normals - it was the speed that put it over the edge

Hunters have no speed anymore

With Sotw Escapist Cold Blooded Tricks Ensare - a hunter has to learn to conserve there mana if they want to win a fight. simply buffing Sotw Escapist & Cold blooded right off the start of a fight will get them killed

Comp · 08-10-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gallus

AS i see Sotw resist spells and escapist evades normals, it seems 2 spells for 2 different purpose.

Yes - and both are WICKED expensive and too costly to cast at the same time - and FAR too costly to have at lvl 5

UmarilsStillHere · 08-10-2010, 02:58 PM

They are both less expensive than the current live server sotw.

08-10-2010, 02:45 PM	#4
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Dont like the new escapist, its basically a flip side of Sotw now. It would seem if anything my marks damage went down more. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N Last edited by Umaril; 08-10-2010 at 02:56 PM.

08-10-2010, 02:57 PM	#6
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Its 2 spells yes, but its basically the same old effect (god mode vs normals instead of god mode vs spells) so now archers can do to everyone else what they have been doing to mages forever. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

08-10-2010, 03:59 PM	#8
Klutu Baron Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 714	After several pvp's with Archers A Hunter needs escapist to be able to take a Barb on - since they don't have dominate speed anymore it's easy game for a barb to kill a hunter Escapist doesn't work anything like Sotw in terms of success Remember old sotw wasn't op because of the Resistance to Spells & Normals - it was the speed that put it over the edge Hunters have no speed anymore With Sotw Escapist Cold Blooded Tricks Ensare - a hunter has to learn to conserve there mana if they want to win a fight. simply buffing Sotw Escapist & Cold blooded right off the start of a fight will get them killed __________________ Ramsli Klutu

08-10-2010, 02:58 PM	#10
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	They are both less expensive than the current live server sotw. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N