Current state of the International Proletarian Revolution

[blood-raven]

i like the idea of non class society, i realy do but it's just that man kind isn't ready for such a thing as long as there is greed and lust for power there can not be such a thing, and since i don't like lenin (as he was breaking his own rules) i won't join eny thing.

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by blood-raven

i like the idea of non class society, i realy do but it's just that man kind isn't ready for such a thing as long as there is greed and lust for power there can not be such a thing, and since i don't like lenin (as he was breaking his own rules) i won't join eny thing.

erm.. Lenin's been dead for a long time now. Am I missing something here? What is anything to do with lenin? oO

[blood-raven]

Originally Posted by veluchami

erm.. Lenin's been dead for a long time now. Am I missing something here? What is anything to do with lenin? oO

since lenin started the biggest slaughter party in whole history under the name of 'a no class society and better life for everyone' well, shorter life was perhaps better, i don't like enything that has to do with comi's.

regards

[Godot]

Originally Posted by blood-raven

since lenin started the biggest slaughter party in whole history under the name of 'a no class society and better life for everyone' well, shorter life was perhaps better, i don't like enything that has to do with comi's.

regards

ok, from this statement we can gleen that you hate social security,medicare
for the elderly,medicaid for the poor, unemployment insurance for people that
have worked hard for years and are now in dire straights through no fault of
thier own, veterans benefits for soldiers that fought for your rights etc...
My question I guess is this; do you kick them into the gutter yourself or do you hire someone to do it for you ?

[Cuchulainn]

Originally Posted by DragoonEnNoir

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Quick question;
How would you define Communism? Are we talking theoretical dialectic here, or are we talking Communism as practiced, and if so, where?

Here is a defenition of communism and socialism.

Karl Marx defined communism as a final stage of the social development, in which the class differences are abolished.

Communism is only theoretical dialectic and nowhere practiced. Socialism is practiced in several countries for example in Venezuela, Kuba, Bolivia, Vietnam.

Also, what do you think a successful International Prol Revolution would lead to?

I believe that a succesful Prol. Revolution could lead to socialism. With this I mean nationalization of companies, fair distribution of goods depending on the performed work, democratic laws and decisions.

[Vythica]

Thanks everyone who participated one way or another in this thread. I'd like to see more discussion like this in the Inn.

[blood-raven]

Originally Posted by Godot

ok, from this statement we can gleen that you hate social security,medicare
for the elderly,medicaid for the poor, unemployment insurance for people that
have worked hard for years and are now in dire straights through no fault of
thier own, veterans benefits for soldiers that fought for your rights etc...
My question I guess is this; do you kick them into the gutter yourself or do you hire someone to do it for you ?

what the hell? i din't say i am against social movement, i sayed i am against communism because everywhere communism is at rule people tend to disapear a lot, if u say that communists where very peacefull, u realy need to get out of your room dude, and btw read before u post.

regards

[Vythica]

Originally Posted by blood-raven

what the hell? i din't say i am against social movement, i sayed i am against communism because everywhere communism is at rule people tend to disapear a lot, if u say that communists where very peacefull, u realy need to get out of your room dude, and btw read before u post.

regards

Wow. Just wow.

First off there really aren't any true communist countries on the planet and most socialist countries are in the state of flux between a capitalist economy and a communist one. Lenin said there would undoubtedly be "birth pangs" during these times and most socialist (at least the revolutionary ones) are experiencing these.

Secondly if you're going to criticize someone's intelligence remember these three things before you hit the Submit Reply button below.

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[blood-raven]

Originally Posted by Vythica

Wow. Just wow.

First off there really aren't any true communist countries on the planet and most socialist countries are in the state of flux between a capitalist economy and a communist one. Lenin said there would undoubtedly be "birth pangs" during these times and most socialist (at least the revolutionary ones) are experiencing these.

Secondly if you're going to criticize someone's intelligence remember these three things before you hit the Submit Reply button below.

Capitalization.
Punctuation.
Spelling.

1) there are some real communist countries remaining: north korea, cuba and vietnam.

2) i never criticized anyone's intelligence, i said that there is a difference between not liking commi's and not liking social services.

3) remeber not everyone is a english speaking person, some other languages do exist to and since i am one of the not english speaking persons there are spelling mistakes in my writing and i'm not going to worry where i put my comma, i think this is still a forum where u can express yourselves on your own account? if u are going to make such comments i think u need to think first before u click the submit button.

regards

[Godot]

Originally Posted by blood-raven

what the hell? i din't say i am against social movement, i sayed i am against communism because everywhere communism is at rule people tend to disapear a lot, if u say that communists where very peacefull, u realy need to get out of your room dude, and btw read before u post.

regards

If you're insinuating that capitalist countries are "safer" than any other
I challenge you to look up the per capita murder rates for any country
you choose and come back with a link confirming it.
This one stands out in my humble opinion.
link
I may have been presumptious to assume you equated socialism with
communism however; my apologies.