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Old 04-17-2015, 02:30 AM   #1
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Example, a 2 sec ambush will be used by absolutely noone
I use a 2 sec will domain. Couldn't be bothered reskilling after last nerf.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:47 PM   #2
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New changes have been uploaded at Amun.

Here's the changelog!

Gameplay - System:
- Added: Offensive Wall Camps. When a Realm vulnerates an enemy, if any player of that Realm dies in the hands of another player in the Realm Wall Door zone, "Offensive Wall Camp" can be used as an option to respawn. These camps are located farther that then defender's Wall Camps, but way closer than the nearest save. Visuals still to be modified (there are no props yet!)
Their approximate coords are:
Syrtis: 2806 3739
Alsius: 2104 2471
Ignis: 4052 2733
Note that this will have no effect in Realm Balance, as if it exists, it doesn't matter if they respawn near or far. Realm Balance is to be addressed with other features we will be adding in the next days.
- Added: Offensive Wall Camp Guards. When the vulneration starts, guards from the vulnerator realm spawn there to protect the players.
Note that this guards, quantity and all visuals are still to be enhanced.

Gameplay - Skills:
- Precise Block: Mana cost updated to 90/110/140/170/200. Duration changed to 4/5/6/7/9. Cooldown changed to 45 sec.
- Escapist: Absolute Evasion Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.
- Son of the Wind: Absolute Spell Resist Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.

Gameplay - Interface:
- Added: Skill status of "Only blockable / resistable at 100%". This already existed for several skills but was not being mentioned in the tooltip.
This means that only if you reach 100% block or spell resist you could block or resist them.
- Added: Movement Speed is shown in the Character Sheet.

Gameplay - RNG
Fixed: Chances not being properly calculated due to a general error.
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:03 PM   #3
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Gameplay - Skills:
- Precise Block: Mana cost updated to 90/110/140/170/200. Duration changed to 4/5/6/7/9. Cooldown changed to 45 sec.
- Escapist: Absolute Evasion Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.
- Son of the Wind: Absolute Spell Resist Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.
Much better But pls, fix PB bug! :P
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Excellent changes, looking forward to testing.
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Gameplay - Skills:
- Precise Block: Mana cost updated to 90/110/140/170/200. Duration changed to 4/5/6/7/9. Cooldown changed to 45 sec.
- Escapist: Absolute Evasion Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.
- Son of the Wind: Absolute Spell Resist Chance changed to: 100%. Duration changed to: 3/4/5/6/8.
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- Added: Offensive Wall Camps. When a Realm vulnerates an enemy, if any player of that Realm dies in the hands of another player in the Realm Wall Door zone, "Offensive Wall Camp" can be used as an option to respawn. These camps are located farther that then defender's Wall Camps, but way closer than the nearest save. Visuals still to be modified (there are no props yet!)
This sounds really good. Nice addition!

The other changes are much, much better than the previous update.

Best,
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Gameplay - Skills:
- Precise Block: Mana cost updated to 90/110/140/170/200. Duration changed to 4/5/6/7/9. Cooldown changed to 45 sec.

I think the mana cost update is a good change. I am concerned that the new duration/cooldown will tip the balance of melee fighting entirely towards knights.

With a duration of 9 seconds, precise block 5 means a knight can simply wait out the duration of UM. A barb has no good way to approach a knight. If you UM first, they PB and then chain knock you. If you don't UM, you get a spear range feint. If you UM to avoid the second knock, the knight just casts PB, waits out UM and then uses the second knock. Any CC is likely to fail given the 65% resist from def support and up to 25% knock resist from steadiness. The knight class is simply too safe, there is no risk involved.

I think that the duration/cooldown should be left at their current values for now. I'd rather this update just focus on the RNG. Class balance is important and should have it's own separate update.
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I think the mana cost update is a good change. I am concerned that the new duration/cooldown will tip the balance of melee fighting entirely towards knights.

With a duration of 9 seconds, precise block 5 means a knight can simply wait out the duration of UM. A barb has no good way to approach a knight. If you UM first, they PB and then chain knock you. If you don't UM, you get a spear range feint. If you UM to avoid the second knock, the knight just casts PB, waits out UM and then uses the second knock. Any CC is likely to fail given the 65% resist from def support and up to 25% knock resist from steadiness. The knight class is simply too safe, there is no risk involved.

I think that the duration/cooldown should be left at their current values for now. I'd rather this update just focus on the RNG. Class balance is important and should have it's own separate update.

the barbs i know just stay in range until def roar works.
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I think the mana cost update is a good change. I am concerned that the new duration/cooldown will tip the balance of melee fighting entirely towards knights.

With a duration of 9 seconds, precise block 5 means a knight can simply wait out the duration of UM. A barb has no good way to approach a knight. If you UM first, they PB and then chain knock you. If you don't UM, you get a spear range feint. If you UM to avoid the second knock, the knight just casts PB, waits out UM and then uses the second knock. Any CC is likely to fail given the 65% resist from def support and up to 25% knock resist from steadiness. The knight class is simply too safe, there is no risk involved.

I think that the duration/cooldown should be left at their current values for now. I'd rather this update just focus on the RNG. Class balance is important and should have it's own separate update.
Agreed 100%.
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:03 AM   #10
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Maybe ngd can fix or otherwise remove pb animation?
Nearly all knights are abusing the animation bug anyway.
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